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johngalthasspoken wrote:not that i know of....private golf clubs or any other "private" club, can discriminate on the basis of race, creed and color if they so choose.this is guaranteed by the constitution. the important distinction here is being "private"..public (a "place of public accomodation") and (more importantly) engage in interstate commerce, are covered by Federal Civil Rights laws.I think in order to be a truly "private club" it has to be so attenuated from interstate commerce that even a good lawyer or prosecutor can't make the case

Thing about a law like that is it would be very difficult to prove. Small businesses are notorious for hiring one colour. laws allowing racism to exist in one area, encourage it more widely.

In the UK recently the British National Party was forced to allow the application from racial minorities. They added that anyone was welcome in their party and were made to look like a bunch of jerks.

chaz wyman wrote:

johngalthasspoken wrote:not that i know of....private golf clubs or any other "private" club, can discriminate on the basis of race, creed and color if they so choose.this is guaranteed by the constitution. the important distinction here is being "private"..public (a "place of public accomodation") and (more importantly) engage in interstate commerce, are covered by Federal Civil Rights laws.I think in order to be a truly "private club" it has to be so attenuated from interstate commerce that even a good lawyer or prosecutor can't make the case

Thing about a law like that is it would be very difficult to prove. Small businesses are notorious for hiring one colour. laws allowing racism to exist in one area, encourage it more widely.

In the UK recently the British National Party was forced to allow the application from racial minorities. They added that anyone was welcome in their party and were made to look like a bunch of jerks.

The reality is that laws do not end discrimination. It's a cultural thing. And despite any laws, save clubs like the KKK and the neo-nazis, the vast majority of private clubs in the US allow all people to join.

I forgot to add that my neighbors married decades ago. She's white and he's Japanese. So far. No one has burned their house down. Also, Kayla, she's a white high-school student in the south, complains about all the rednecks, and she has a black boyfriend, and no one has beat her up for it. In America, racism is dying. Growing up, American kids are taught that we are Americans first, and that we come from all over. I remember as a small kid hearing one kid in a group say something about being Irish or this or that and another kid saying, "It doesn't matter, we are all Americans." After which everyone in the group said, "Yeah, that's right." And that ended the topic. That is the American mind-set. That is something you can't understand about Americans, or intentionally chose not to. We elected a president who had a black parent and a white parent. We have a vice presidential candidate whose ex-wife was black. We have a top ex-military general active in politics who is white as can be, and he proudly appears with his black spouse. The last three movies I saw had Chinese leading ladies, and no one minded. In America, the racists are a dying breed, and they are being vocal because they are dying out.

ForgedinHell wrote:I forgot to add that my neighbors married decades ago. She's white and he's Japanese. So far. No one has burned their house down. Also, Kayla, she's a white high-school student in the south, complains about all the rednecks, and she has a black boyfriend, and no one has beat her up for it. In America, racism is dying.

i think might be going dormant just like those fish in the sahara desert that can survive for years until it rains again

funny that you should mention this but a few days ago a couple of rednecks did try to beat me and my boyfriend up - fortunately they were as drunk as they were fat which is to say very - those fuckers must have outmassed us 3:1

and there are insults dirty looks and in one case one fucker would stick printouts depicting lynchings in my locker until i caught him and he suddenly fell face first on the floor - he claims I grabbed his ankles and yanked but i denied it - he just fell spontaneously and the principal believed me - and then some black football players heard about it and they had a chat with him

i mean most people are cool with it but the minority who is not is not a small minority

i should add that rednecks are no more prone to racism than anyone else - sometimes they are the first ones to tell off some retard who is going on about niggers and whatnot

Kayla wrote:

ForgedinHell wrote:I forgot to add that my neighbors married decades ago. She's white and he's Japanese. So far. No one has burned their house down. Also, Kayla, she's a white high-school student in the south, complains about all the rednecks, and she has a black boyfriend, and no one has beat her up for it. In America, racism is dying.

i think might be going dormant just like those fish in the sahara desert that can survive for years until it rains again

Fish? Do you mean Frogs?

chaz wyman wrote: Fish? Do you mean Frogs?

maybe its frogs

then there are sea monkeys and those crustaceans that look kind of like troglodites but are not who can stay dormant for like decades

but anyway that does not change the point

Think real hard, why do you think blacks with about 12% of the U.S. population represent about 90% of professional football, basketball and baseball players? Oh, the diversity! (adapted from the WLS radio announcer's "Oh, the humanity!" when the Hindenburg crashed)

bobevenson wrote:Think real hard, why do you think blacks with about 12% of the U.S. population represent about 90% of professional football, basketball and baseball players? Oh, the diversity!

You obviously don't watch much baseball do you.

And although the percentage is high in the other sports it's not 90%.

But go on, share your wisdom on why you think the percentages are high (except in baseball where they're not)?

Kayla wrote:

chaz wyman wrote: Fish? Do you mean Frogs?

maybe its frogs

then there are sea monkeys and those crustaceans that look kind of like troglodites but are not who can stay dormant for like decades

but anyway that does not change the point

I've not heard of sea monkeys.
What does a troglodyte look like?
Amoeba can also lay dormant in complete desiccation.

bobevenson wrote:Think real hard, why do you think blacks with about 12% of the U.S. population represent about 90% of professional football, basketball and baseball players? Oh, the diversity! (adapted from the WLS radio announcer's "Oh, the humanity!" when the Hindenburg crashed)

Oh the stupidity!!

So what?

John wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Think real hard, why do you think blacks with about 12% of the U.S. population represent about 90% of professional football, basketball and baseball players? Oh, the diversity!

You obviously don't watch much baseball do you.

And although the percentage is high in the other sports it's not 90%.

But go on, share your wisdom on why you think the percentages are high (except in baseball where they're not)?

Well, at least I'm glad to hear you've gotten away from that cricket crap and are now a baseball maven. The reason blacks are so dominant in professional basketball is that they all play basketball from the time they can walk. If you have millions of black kids who dream of playing in the NBA, and all they do is play basketball instead of trying to do well in school, and when they don't make it to the NBA, and don't have any other skills, and can't get a job, and wind up being criminals, that's why blacks are so dominant in basketball and criminal activities, and not in any other line of work.

chaz wyman wrote: I've not heard of sea monkeys.

you can't go into an educational toys store without tripping over them

they are basically tiny shrimp

What does a troglodyte look like?

they are chaotic evil reptilian humanoids

but what i actually meant was a trilobite

Kayla wrote:

chaz wyman wrote: I've not heard of sea monkeys.

you can't go into an educational toys store without tripping over them

they are basically tiny shrimp

What does a troglodyte look like?

they are chaotic evil reptilian humanoids

but what i actually meant was a trilobite

The literal definition of troglodyte means "cave dweller". And, if I remember the earliest surviving origin of the term was to describe the Cyclops in The Odyssey.






The object you compared with with is a fossil trilobyte, and has been extinct for millions of years - it does not lay dormant.
It has a surviving ancestor - the horse-shoe crab, and this is not a dormant creature either.

Evolution is not a strong point in US education.

chaz wyman wrote: Evolution is not a strong point in US education.

What the fuck do you know about American education, or for that matter, education, period???

bobevenson wrote:

chaz wyman wrote: Evolution is not a strong point in US education.

What the fuck do you know about American education, or for that matter, education, period???

You keep telling us it is the worst in the world. Are you changing your mind again?

But since you asked...
As for me I've been a teacher since 1984. I've taught at all levels of education; infants, primary, secondary, tertiary, degree level and masters level. I've never supervised a dissertation, but I have written several. I have more education than you. I have more qualifications than you. I have more experience than you. Fuck, I'm smarter than you too.
I've also followed the debates on the struggles between evolution studies and creationism in the USA.

Kayla wrote:

ForgedinHell wrote:I forgot to add that my neighbors married decades ago. She's white and he's Japanese. So far. No one has burned their house down. Also, Kayla, she's a white high-school student in the south, complains about all the rednecks, and she has a black boyfriend, and no one has beat her up for it. In America, racism is dying.

i think might be going dormant just like those fish in the sahara desert that can survive for years until it rains again

funny that you should mention this but a few days ago a couple of rednecks did try to beat me and my boyfriend up - fortunately they were as drunk as they were fat which is to say very - those fuckers must have outmassed us 3:1

and there are insults dirty looks and in one case one fucker would stick printouts depicting lynchings in my locker until i caught him and he suddenly fell face first on the floor - he claims I grabbed his ankles and yanked but i denied it - he just fell spontaneously and the principal believed me - and then some black football players heard about it and they had a chat with him

i mean most people are cool with it but the minority who is not is not a small minority

i should add that rednecks are no more prone to racism than anyone else - sometimes they are the first ones to tell off some retard who is going on about niggers and whatnot

Yeah, I've run into racists who didn't know how to stand up straight and they kept smashing their head into my knee. Racists are the clumsiest bastards around. Sometimes you have to choke them out, just so they stop smashing into things.