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Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 7:00 am
by Walker
Impenitent wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 10:17 pm
How to classify the causes of increased awareness of the world outside the skin?

For example, expansion of awareness can overcome the cigarette habit so that beginning now, one never again smokes. In that way, awareness ensues that the craving now has become eternity, and that awareness itself is what ends the eternal craving. Sounds contradictory only in words but not in the reality of fast food addiction.

Since exposure to the same conditions will cause one person to quit smoking forever and ever, and the other to continue smoking, other elements must be in play. The elements are samskaras, or characteristics as in, qualities.

When a person dies with a particular assemblage of samskaras, and when a significant portion of that particular assemblage appears in another human being born afterwards, however that happens to happen, then those qualities have again incarnated into a human form.

This is evident when a new voice on PNF sounds like an old voice … it’s because an assemblage of qualities can have more than one form.

As the machine tells us, an incarnation is a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, a spirit, or quality.

It can be sobering that the feeling of individualism that is I Am, which is what thinks is being reincarnated, is actually a collection of qualities that can be naturally replicated that results in the same human thought of, I Am.

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 4:39 pm
by Walker
popeye1945 wrote: Sat May 16, 2026 9:11 pm Are you from Louisiana?
Just passing through, West to East.

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
by Impenitent
Walker wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 7:00 am
Impenitent wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 10:17 pm
How to classify the causes of increased awareness of the world outside the skin?

For example, expansion of awareness can overcome the cigarette habit so that beginning now, one never again smokes. In that way, awareness ensues that the craving now has become eternity, and that awareness itself is what ends the eternal craving. Sounds contradictory only in words but not in the reality of fast food addiction.

Since exposure to the same conditions will cause one person to quit smoking forever and ever, and the other to continue smoking, other elements must be in play. The elements are samskaras, or characteristics as in, qualities.

When a person dies with a particular assemblage of samskaras, and when a significant portion of that particular assemblage appears in another human being born afterwards, however that happens to happen, then those qualities have again incarnated into a human form.

This is evident when a new voice on PNF sounds like an old voice … it’s because an assemblage of qualities can have more than one form.

As the machine tells us, an incarnation is a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, a spirit, or quality.

It can be sobering that the feeling of individualism that is I Am, which is what thinks is being reincarnated, is actually a collection of qualities that can be naturally replicated that results in the same human thought of, I Am.
are you saying that if another organism reacts to stimuli exactly as I would have were I alive, that said organism is a reincarnation?

Milton Hershey enjoyed chocolate candy. is everyone who enjoys chocolate candy a reincarnation of Milton Hershey?

-Imp

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 8:59 pm
by popeye1945
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
Walker wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 7:00 am
Impenitent wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 10:17 pm
How to classify the causes of increased awareness of the world outside the skin?

For example, expansion of awareness can overcome the cigarette habit so that beginning now, one never again smokes. In that way, awareness ensues that the craving now has become eternity, and that awareness itself is what ends the eternal craving. Sounds contradictory only in words but not in the reality of fast food addiction.

Since exposure to the same conditions will cause one person to quit smoking forever and ever, and the other to continue smoking, other elements must be in play. The elements are samskaras, or characteristics as in, qualities.

When a person dies with a particular assemblage of samskaras, and when a significant portion of that particular assemblage appears in another human being born afterwards, however that happens to happen, then those qualities have again incarnated into a human form.

This is evident when a new voice on PNF sounds like an old voice … it’s because an assemblage of qualities can have more than one form.

As the machine tells us, an incarnation is a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, a spirit, or quality.

It can be sobering that the feeling of individualism that is I Am, which is what thinks is being reincarnated, is actually a collection of qualities that can be naturally replicated that results in the same human thought of, I Am.
are you saying that if another organism reacts to stimuli exactly as I would have were I alive, that said organism is a reincarnation?

Milton Hershey enjoyed chocolate candy. is everyone who enjoys chocolate candy a reincarnation of Milton Hershey?

-Imp
The entire body is a sensory interface to the energies of the outside world, and this interface is the mind's first idea, or the body is the mind's first idea. The changes or alterations of that said interface or body are what one calls perception, experience, and knowledge, and are the property of subjective consciousness and are never the property of the outside world until the subject bestows its perception, experience, and knowledge meanings onto a meaningless world. You do not experience reality directly; you experience what reality does to your body, so your apparent reality is a biological readout of the alterations made to your body by the energies that constitute your outside world. These energies play upon the bodies of organisms as if the organisms were their instruments, and the melody these energies play upon the bodies of organisms is their apparent, or everyday realities. You do not experience reality; you experience your bodily changes or alterations, and the readout is the world you know as a biological interpretation. All organisms are reactive creatures to the physical world in a cyclical process of reciprocal causation. This process makes you part of the earth and the larger context of the cosmos. To experience the world differently, one only needs to alter one's own biology for perception, experience, knowledge, and meaning are always true to the state of the biology doing the experiencing; if the biology is impaired, so too will the perceptions and judgments of that impaired biology. The earth as cause, and the organisms' reactions constitute reciprocal causation, for the organisms' reactions to the outside world are, in turn, causes to the outside world. This is an organism as the Earth, a functional aspect, not an independent agent with free will. Reciprocal causation is belonging.

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Sun May 17, 2026 10:05 pm
by Walker
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
Forms die, qualities incarnate … according to the definition of incarnation, but only one number such as chocolate doesn't win the lottery.

Given all the billions who have come and gone on this earth, and given the common traits and peculiar traits of all these people, the odds seem reasonable that all the qualities of one personality could again reassemble into another form, and because the two forms with identical qualities never encountered one another then that reaction of incarnated qualities has a no-contact cause. ahem. Of course, these qualities would manifest as the same reaction to different particular causes since the two forms live in different times and circumstance. There has been more than one Braveheart in the world and there will be more, unless all the soul energy is getting divvied up amongst all the available forms.

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 12:41 am
by Impenitent
popeye1945 wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 8:59 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
Walker wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 7:00 am
How to classify the causes of increased awareness of the world outside the skin?

For example, expansion of awareness can overcome the cigarette habit so that beginning now, one never again smokes. In that way, awareness ensues that the craving now has become eternity, and that awareness itself is what ends the eternal craving. Sounds contradictory only in words but not in the reality of fast food addiction.

Since exposure to the same conditions will cause one person to quit smoking forever and ever, and the other to continue smoking, other elements must be in play. The elements are samskaras, or characteristics as in, qualities.

When a person dies with a particular assemblage of samskaras, and when a significant portion of that particular assemblage appears in another human being born afterwards, however that happens to happen, then those qualities have again incarnated into a human form.

This is evident when a new voice on PNF sounds like an old voice … it’s because an assemblage of qualities can have more than one form.

As the machine tells us, an incarnation is a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, a spirit, or quality.

It can be sobering that the feeling of individualism that is I Am, which is what thinks is being reincarnated, is actually a collection of qualities that can be naturally replicated that results in the same human thought of, I Am.
are you saying that if another organism reacts to stimuli exactly as I would have were I alive, that said organism is a reincarnation?

Milton Hershey enjoyed chocolate candy. is everyone who enjoys chocolate candy a reincarnation of Milton Hershey?

-Imp
The entire body is a sensory interface to the energies of the outside world, and this interface is the mind's first idea, or the body is the mind's first idea. The changes or alterations of that said interface or body are what one calls perception, experience, and knowledge, and are the property of subjective consciousness and are never the property of the outside world until the subject bestows its perception, experience, and knowledge meanings onto a meaningless world. You do not experience reality directly; you experience what reality does to your body, so your apparent reality is a biological readout of the alterations made to your body by the energies that constitute your outside world. These energies play upon the bodies of organisms as if the organisms were their instruments, and the melody these energies play upon the bodies of organisms is their apparent, or everyday realities. You do not experience reality; you experience your bodily changes or alterations, and the readout is the world you know as a biological interpretation. All organisms are reactive creatures to the physical world in a cyclical process of reciprocal causation. This process makes you part of the earth and the larger context of the cosmos. To experience the world differently, one only needs to alter one's own biology for perception, experience, knowledge, and meaning are always true to the state of the biology doing the experiencing; if the biology is impaired, so too will the perceptions and judgments of that impaired biology. The earth as cause, and the organisms' reactions constitute reciprocal causation, for the organisms' reactions to the outside world are, in turn, causes to the outside world. This is an organism as the Earth, a functional aspect, not an independent agent with free will. Reciprocal causation is belonging.
and the degree of impairment is less in certain, more perfect, biological organisms...

-Imp

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 12:52 am
by Impenitent
Walker wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 10:05 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
Forms die, qualities incarnate … according to the definition of incarnation, but only one number such as chocolate doesn't win the lottery.

Given all the billions who have come and gone on this earth, and given the common traits and peculiar traits of all these people, the odds seem reasonable that all the qualities of one personality could again reassemble into another form, and because the two forms with identical qualities never encountered one another then that reaction of incarnated qualities has a no-contact cause. ahem. Of course, these qualities would manifest as the same reaction to different particular causes since the two forms live in different times and circumstance. There has been more than one Braveheart in the world and there will be more, unless all the soul energy is getting divvied up amongst all the available forms.
identical twins have different personalities

available forms on the molecular level would almost be infinite

-Imp

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 12:58 am
by popeye1945
Impenitent wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 12:41 am
popeye1945 wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 8:59 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm

are you saying that if another organism reacts to stimuli exactly as I would have were I alive, that said organism is a reincarnation?

Milton Hershey enjoyed chocolate candy. is everyone who enjoys chocolate candy a reincarnation of Milton Hershey?

-Imp
The entire body is a sensory interface to the energies of the outside world, and this interface is the mind's first idea, or the body is the mind's first idea. The changes or alterations of that said interface or body are what one calls perception, experience, and knowledge, and are the property of subjective consciousness and are never the property of the outside world until the subject bestows its perception, experience, and knowledge meanings onto a meaningless world. You do not experience reality directly; you experience what reality does to your body, so your apparent reality is a biological readout of the alterations made to your body by the energies that constitute your outside world. These energies play upon the bodies of organisms as if the organisms were their instruments, and the melody these energies play upon the bodies of organisms is their apparent, or everyday realities. You do not experience reality; you experience your bodily changes or alterations, and the readout is the world you know as a biological interpretation. All organisms are reactive creatures to the physical world in a cyclical process of reciprocal causation. This process makes you part of the earth and the larger context of the cosmos. To experience the world differently, one only needs to alter one's own biology for perception, experience, knowledge, and meaning are always true to the state of the biology doing the experiencing; if the biology is impaired, so too will the perceptions and judgments of that impaired biology. The earth as cause, and the organisms' reactions constitute reciprocal causation, for the organisms' reactions to the outside world are, in turn, causes to the outside world. This is an organism as the Earth, a functional aspect, not an independent agent with free will. Reciprocal causation is belonging.
and the degree of impairment is less in certain, more perfect, biological organisms...

-Imp
Sorry, but I can make no sense of the statement above.

Re: HUMANS DO NOT ACT, BUT REACT, SO MUCH FOR FREE WILL

Posted: Mon May 18, 2026 1:03 am
by popeye1945
Impenitent wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 12:52 am
Walker wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 10:05 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 5:20 pm
Forms die, qualities incarnate … according to the definition of incarnation, but only one number such as chocolate doesn't win the lottery.

Given all the billions who have come and gone on this earth, and given the common traits and peculiar traits of all these people, the odds seem reasonable that all the qualities of one personality could again reassemble into another form, and because the two forms with identical qualities never encountered one another, then that reaction of incarnated qualities has a no-contact cause. ahem. Of course, these qualities would manifest as the same reaction to different particular causes since the two forms live in different times and circumstances. There has been more than one Braveheart in the world, and there will be more, unless all the soul energy is getting divvied up amongst all the available forms.
Identical twins have different personalities

available forms on the molecular level would almost be infinite

-Imp
" Identical twins have different personalities." That is because their experiences of being in the world are different, and as a word within a sentence, context defines.