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promethean75 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:10 am "ago...all that demon summoning stuff"

Don't u worry about that. Real deal demons wouldn't fuck with u or anybody from ILP. U guys are small fish. Too normal. When u guys try to act all dark and shady, they know you're fakin it. And just becuz u guys are smaht af and read ancient scrolls 'n shit doesn't mean the Ds are gonna pay any attention to u.
Prom?! You see dis shit, man?! WTF???

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Let's face facts:

EVROPA descends from our Old Gods, the Cult of Jupiter, Catholicism, Rome, Zeus,

Versus

Judaism/Abrahamism descends from their Old God, the Cult of Saturn, Jerusalem, Satan.


This is a battle of 3000 years.

Sometimes they force you to pick a side.

So which wolf will you feed?
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Lol 'wolves'


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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:52 am
promethean75 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:33 amThey are not infiltrating your psyche or your traditional family values.
...no change in television and movies from 1950, 60, 70, 80, 90, 00, 10, 20s huh?

You seen any commercials recently, prom? 99% of movies and tv now are all black male, white female, "PERFECTLY NORMAL FAMILIES". What's up with that? Who's doing that? Why? Couldn't be Jews, NO WAY, out of the question!
These openly insane racist panic theories you indulge in make it too easy to identify your nazi proclivities. You really need to soften it up and blur the edges so that you can pass as a harmless tiki-waving maga-hatted "race realist" of the "dissident right" rather than the domestic terrorist in waiting that you actually are.


Let Jacobi teach you how to nazi on the down-low, I'm sure one of his email correspedence courses will explain everything.
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promethean75 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:33 am ....
I didn't quote the whole post only because it clutters this post. But I make reference to the set of ideas Promethean included in his post.

That post in itself is a compendium of paranoid ideas about Jews and it encapsulates, certainly, an exaggerated phantasy that is projected onto Jews and Judaism. Having somewhat seriously studied antisemitism -- I refer to two books on the topic: "The Devil and the Jews The Medieval Conception of the Jew and Its Relation to Modern Anti-Semitism" (Joshua Trachtenberg) and Europe and the Jews: " The Pressure of Christendom on the People of Israel for 1,900 Years"(Malcolm Hay).

What interests me, and has relevance here, is assigning a *devilish* role and power to Jews and Judaism. The Devil is a trickster and a controller by nature and his influence is nefarious and also invisible. In Jungian psychology the Devil is associated with *the Shadow* -- an unrecognized, unaccepted and also unassimilated part of one's own self that one projects onto the other.

Frankly, all this originated not in Christianity, which inherited this metaphysical paradigm, but in Judaism itself. Judaism and Jews define themselves as *God's own* and they define this world, and the peoples and tribes in this world (i.e. the Nations: the Goyim) as the opponents of Jews and God's project. It is not hard to see that the concept functions in this way: oppose a Jew and Judaism means that one opposes God and God's plans. These are simply facts about Judaism and the nature of the belief-system. If you study or listen to the traditionalist Rabbis you will very easily and clearly understand how traditional and strict Judaism frames both Jewish being and Jewish struggle.

It is extremely easy, speaking directly to our present, to be aware that quite recently the *paradigm* I refer to was clearly enunciated by Netanyahu when he referred to the age-old enemies of the Jewish people: the Amalekites. The purpose of mentioning this is simply to illustrate a less obvious belief in a satanic power and people that is central to Jewish belief.

The actual problem as I have come to see it arises out of the definition that Jews and Judaism holds: that God selected the Jewish people for a world-historical mission that functions through time among those who hold to the mission through memory and will. As I said previously, there is something rather -- what is the word? -- terrifying or alarming in the idea of a given people capable of such an historical memory and will, as well as the idea of such a world-scale project.

Make of it what you will, naturally. Judaism and Christianity function together in relation to these world-historical ideas. When Christians say that eventually *Every knee shall bow* that is a reiteration of what a Judaic priesthood has defined as the mission of Jews and Judaism. For this reason, as Christian Zionists ally themselves with Jewish Zionists, the *belief-system* and its core tenets become visible and enthusiastically expressed. Again one must make of it what one must, and certainly if one is, say, a committed religious Christian Zionist who has integrated the metaphysic and the mythology into his belief-system (for and example I refer to our own Immanuel Can) everything is as it should be. To support and further Jewish and Israeli Zionism, which is defined as a full recovery on the Judaic model -- that of Judea and its reconstructed Temple (the Third Temple) -- is understood to be *God's plan*.

And thus the entire *prophetic model* shows itself. Millions and millions, possible a billion, believe these things at some level. These are *shadow ideas* that exist and are present even if they are not fully conscious.

Now, my point or let's say my *intellectual project* has nothing to do with the reinvigoration of traditional antisemitism, but more in a hard and penetrating analysis of the power of these mythic models on the power-structure of the United States. What many Gentiles do not understand, and really why would they? is the relevance of America in the historical process of Jews and Judaism. Simply put, America has been an unprecedented boon. That is to say a country, a nation, extremely different from Europe that has enabled Jews and Judaism to flourish like no other point in Jewish history ever. And certainly after the tragic events in Europe of the mid-nineteenth century, America as a haven, and also as a power-center, came that much more into the light and gained that much more historical relevance.

And in that context, I submit, the Jewish Project as I referred to in another post, gathered steam, and took shape through the Zionist project: the reconquest of Judea and the resumption of the biblically-defined Jewish historical project in the region. The conquest of Palestine was an exact imposition of the former biblical model of the conquest of Canaan. And if I can put it in these terms it was *sold to the world* as a heroic battle with God's intervention at every point.

Jewish Zionism is an extremely complex animal. It was powered by Christian Zionism (originally) and all of this is interesting material to examine, but what is important to my presentation here is in the understanding of the need, the imperative, to bring the nation of the US into a full-throated and active support for the Zionist state. The *paranoid notion* of course is that Jews, acting 'nefariously', or acting through their (so-called) power and influence, have dominated or in any case significantly influenced the policy decisions of the world's most powerful nation. For that reason the Jewish character of nearly all Neoconservatives is exposed and emphasized by those critical of this level of control.

There is another interesting thing to consider -- in any case it became interesting to me: one who renounces the Judaic vision absolutely and yet who recognizes that it functions as a mythic structure absorbed by a significant sector of the world -- and that is a critical examination of the very root of antisemitism: the Genesis Story. The basic story, when read perhaps *against its grain* of traditional interpretation goes like this:

The ur-Jew Joseph, betrayed by his brothers, gains a footfold in a foreign land and uses still, cunning, intelligence and knowledge to raise himself to a position of power and influence. But Lo his people in other sectors were *oppressed* and this called forth the wrath of God Himself. And what this God did was to engineer the destruction of a foreign nation (Amalekite-like) who had the audacity to put a block before Judaic enterprise and historical mission. In the end Joesph, and his Tribe, make off with booty and great wealth and are *lifted* and propelled by that metaphysical Agent known as Yahweh to their new home which is also invaded and occupied. Just examine the model. It is hardly *healthy* and not one to emulate.

So the question is: What sane people, and who among the Nations, would ever desire to share a similar fate? But what Judaism proposes is exactly that: oppose Jews, oppose the Judaic project, and you will garner God's terrifying wrath. That is to say that you will be stripped of your wealth and left plague-ridden.

Now, what ultimate power do these ideas have? That is not a question that I can answer. But I can say that right now they definitely seem to have a tremendous power in the United States of America. Beyond that I have nothing else to say.

Is this *my* narrative? Did Gentiles create this paradigm and then elevate Jewish activity (resulting in a bad outcome for Egypt) into a heroic tale to be celebrated? Well, come to your own conclusion. But I say the origin of antisemitism is to be found within Judaic ideas themselves.

Do *average Jews* have anything at all to do with this? Not very likely. Except insofar as Zionism, for modern Jews, and definitely in America, has become a central tenet of Jewish existential religiousness and worldview. Frankly, I used to be a Zionist supporter. I was raised listening to those tales of how *the Jews made the desert flower*. It was all supported by neo-Biblical stories and that sense of recovered historical mission.

My ultimate point? Simple this: watch and pay attention to what is going on now and how things will be conducted over the next years. To all appearances this is a *critical moment* and much, it seems, is up in the air. Is it wrong to have said anything I have said here? Flash? What do you say? Anything even slightly coherent?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:24 pmThese openly insane racist panic theories you indulge in make it too easy to identify your nazi proclivities. You really need to soften it up and blur the edges so that you can pass as a harmless tiki-waving maga-hatted "race realist" of the "dissident right" rather than the domestic terrorist in waiting that you actually are.

Let Jacobi teach you how to nazi on the down-low, I'm sure one of his email correspedence courses will explain everything.
My view? It is much better (as I have often said) to get things out in the open so they can be examined, thought about, and talked through.

Myself, I am uncertain if it is wise and let's say rational and responsible to discount, in absolute terms, those ideas, or those senses (shadow beliefs or paranoid notions) that you refer to as "openly insane racist panic theories". I mean among all people, and in our own selves.

What you are likely unaware of, or not sufficiently aware of, is simply that we are now entered into a period of open war. I refer to the recently wars that are breaking out, but I also refer to the cultural wars and their political implications which, naturally, are on-going around us right now.

While I do not agree with those -- and these definitely exist -- who interpret their world through hyped-up paranoid phantasy stories (like Q-anon and similar half-mythical half-political or half-realist approximation-narratives) what I will say is that it seems to me that there are very real power-struggles going on in our world, some of which remains submerged and shrouded. That is, it is very hard for any of us to arrive at *accurate assessments* as to what really is going on.

One thing about those Q-anon types is that they are people who are trying as hard as they might to gain some interpretive leverage about *their world* in which they have so little power.

My view is that you are going to have to clarify, in realistic terms, just why and in what you see (for example) the Dissident Right that I have referred to (and which you know nothing about) as National Socialist emulators. Are you sure? Can you really discourse on the topic? Are you sure that everyone who opposes whatever your project is (which I bet you are very unclear about) is actually a Nazi?

There is really a whole group of question that arise in relation to your favorite designations.

Is there any genuine causes of panic? Is panic or concern valid? I mean for anyone, today, in our world? This implies, you see, that some people feel that they are losing something or that their interests, or their welfare, or their future and wellbeing is understood by them to be threatened. Do you at any level validate concerns? It would seem that you ridicule them universally. And then associate them with an emblem of evil: the Nazi.

Racism, racialism or perhaps simply put concern about demographics -- the composition of a given country -- can you assert with real certainly that such concerns are immoral? If one people replace another -- as Renaud Camus a verifiable Liberal of the old order declares is happening (in France) -- is his concern immoral? Or could it be looked at through a different lens?

What about those (mostly young men) who comprised those who did march in Charlottesville? Have you even examined and thought about what some of their theorists say? Do you allow any people, even if (say) they are operating in tracks that you or I might consider misguided, do you give their views and perceptions any validity at all? Even if you disagree? Or do you have some special deciding power that can dismiss, imperiously, all peoples whose views do not coincide with yours?

Is everything about the so-called Maga-movement simply and definitely bad and evil? Are you sure that you can characterize everything according to your ultra-reductionist terms?

My view is as I say: it all need to be put out on the table for examination and discussion. People like you, with your reductionism censorship tendencies, provide a way to examine how all oppositional ideas are disallowed, a priori.

So naturally you misunderstand what I do and what I am up to. I want to open up all categories of conseration and lift the censoring tendencies and replace them with *will to converse fairly and in an up-front manner*.

And YES! you will find this all explained in great detail, and with elan, panache and pizazz in Chapters 4-9 of The Ten-Week Email Course you humorless cheapskate!
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:25 pm Is it wrong to have said anything I have said here? Flash? What do you say? Anything even slightly coherent?
Why summon me? Your act, much like IC's, isn't put together for persuading - or even usefully confronting - people like me, you are a rube bamboozler. You herd idiots like whizzy for a living.

Look at the structure of that post. You open up by establishing your bona fides, so to underline that you reference a couple of scholarly works. To what purpose? None really, they are just window dressing and won't be referenced again. You promptly pivot from your laregly irrelevant bibliography of actual historians into your preferred brand of historiographical story telling, which is largely defined by untethered mysticism and unimportant Biblical references.

The majority of what you get up to is just some rambling drunkard's bar stool history lesson. There's no discernible thread of noteworthy scholarship there, you've stopped linking anything back to any published work by the end of the second paragraph. There's some inane references to things being "it was *sold to the world* as a heroic battle with God's intervention at every point" that you are just making up as you go along.

For every potentially valid point you raise, such as Christian eschatological obsessives like Mister Can or Balfour, you attempt to borrow a triple helping of outdated nonsense about national destinies and other directional histories silliness. But overall, you drown everything you touch in your thick syrup of tedious, low quality mythologising.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:53 am
promethean75 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:10 am "ago...all that demon summoning stuff"

Don't u worry about that. Real deal demons wouldn't fuck with u or anybody from ILP. U guys are small fish. Too normal. When u guys try to act all dark and shady, they know you're fakin it. And just becuz u guys are smaht af and read ancient scrolls 'n shit doesn't mean the Ds are gonna pay any attention to u.
Prom?! You see dis shit, man?! WTF???

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/458798570

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Sculptor wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:05 pm
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:53 am
promethean75 wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:10 am "ago...all that demon summoning stuff"

Don't u worry about that. Real deal demons wouldn't fuck with u or anybody from ILP. U guys are small fish. Too normal. When u guys try to act all dark and shady, they know you're fakin it. And just becuz u guys are smaht af and read ancient scrolls 'n shit doesn't mean the Ds are gonna pay any attention to u.
Prom?! You see dis shit, man?! WTF???

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/458798570

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Have you taken acid?
Hmm, it must be just some big Cohencidence then, huh?
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:25 pm...
I don't have time to respond right now, but, I wanted to ask...

Alexis did you grow up in a religious household, Protestant, Jewish, which sect?

My household (parent) was/is atheist, my grandparents were Roman Catholics though.

I just consider myself...philosophical though. Can't really bring myself to devote to a religion, never been interested.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:16 pm Why summon me? Your act, much like IC's, isn't put together for persuading - or even usefully confronting - people like me, you are a rube bamboozler. You herd idiots like whizzy for a living.
I admire that post and in some sense your style: rhetorical fluff jazzed up but really no discernible dialectical relationship to anything that I said or proposed. And my opinion of what you write is that you have nothing more to offer. You use the term "Nazi" as a shorthand for rhetorical fluffed-up jazz. But it amounts to the same: nothing much at all. You seem to have a lot of feelings about ideas or events that disturb you, but no interest in actually discussing things (nor your own values).

The reason I refer to solid works, which I have carefully read, on the topic of antisemitism, is to validate the topic and the conversation about it. It is important enough of a topic to get familiar with it. You, I reckon, have no familiarity with the topic. And I have pointed out that you have no background in National Socialism, either in pro of it or in contra.

True, I offer my own summation of the basic reason why I -- raised within a very fringe Reform Judaism -- reject the entire construct. It pleases me, or satisfies me on some level, to express my thoughts. I assume that everyone is here for the same reason.

What "discernible thread of noteworthy scholarship" are you referring to? You make it sound as if you would value such. But that is a false assertion I think.
For every potentially valid point you raise, such as Christian eschatological obsessives like Mister Can or Balfour, you attempt to borrow a triple helping of outdated nonsense about national destinies and other directional histories silliness.
Well thank you most kindly!

Except you are certainly not a person who has any idea at all about Jewish nationalism, Jewish sense of destiny, nor Jewish mission, so here you are out of your league.

So we've not moved one inch forward in any sense. What I think principally distinguishes me from you (and this you is a you-plural common today) is that your main object is to stifle conversation and to the possibility of getting clear about difficult details hard to talk about. Instead of opening up conversations, you work to shut them down. I admire your cleverness, to a degree, but it stops there.

There is one concrete item I will comment on: The conquest of Palestine was most certainly painted, or presented, as a reenactment of the Biblical model: and it was "sold to the world' as a heroic battle with God's intervention at every point."

The prospect of any conversation with you is that one ends up in your mire. And I have determined that is your object.

Your posts, your rules, but it is inane given the potentials we have here.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:54 pmMy view is that you are going to have to clarify, in realistic terms,
Let me pause your right there for a moment, Alexis.

It may be prudent to extend Abrahamic-Jews such a courteous term as "realistic" when these are the self-proclaimed Authors of... The Old Testament (questionable), The Torah, Kabbalah, and especially, The Talmud. It doesn't take much philosophical inclination, investigation, snooping around, "Nooticing", inquiry, curiosity, for their Esteemed Rabbis to tell you their religious, political, mythological, and practical motivations. In fact, they brag about it openly, when pressed. And why not, when they claim themselves as "God's Chosen" with a type of immortal, immutable, invulnerable armor and aura about them.

That's why simple-minded pawns of their ideology (D pants here) feel such gusto and haste to Accuse strangers of "NAZIIIIIIIIII!" when those strangers are, in fact, the ones that pulled their asses out of the mess they created in Weimar-Germany. History repeats this cycle, because of their Pride, Hubris, and Devious nature. Their memories are short, and as proven by D pants, they have a nasty habit of not learning from their "mistakes", because they feel collectively that they are Perfect, and are incapable of mistakes. Blameless. Morally Pure. Superior.

This is why, to the pawn, any criticism against his Master, his extended family the Jewish race, is perceived as a mortal threat which provokes an emotional response. In Philosophy, this cannot stand. We all must, as Philosophers, question, criticize (positively or negatively), all earthly phenomena, all cosmic phenomena, and all human phenomena in front of us.


Jews are not immune to my nor your Criticism, as Philosophers. Thus, in Philosophy, these types of simple-minded pawns, are inevitable. D pants, recognizes, as he is programmed from birth to recognize, that 'Criticism' is an attack of the most dangerous and powerful kind. Any criticism, is too much for its pea-brain. Any slant, any joke, any rubeing or raspberries, any half-seriousness, the pawn brain cannot tolerate nor differentiate from 'real' threats.

This is why Jews have a skewed sense of 'Comedia' by the way, one-directional: they can harass and bully all other non-Jews, but jokes aimed their direction, even remotely, is Verboten. They cannot tolerate Free Speech, in the end.

This is why the Jewish race cannot, in the end, differentiate Nazi-Germany from All Whites, All Europeans. They perceive us, All, as "one and the same".

Basically, D pants is a Racist without realizing it. He believes it's morally okay when he does it, in defense of his Jewish identity. But he also doesn't realize, that in his defensiveness, he exposes his weaknesses, his fears, his irrational worries (that history will repeat, and due to the same reasons).
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:28 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:16 pm Why summon me? Your act, much like IC's, isn't put together for persuading - or even usefully confronting - people like me, you are a rube bamboozler. You herd idiots like whizzy for a living.
I admire that post and in some sense your style: rhetorical fluff jazzed up ....
blah blah blah... Your work doesn't rise to the level you think it does, men of of letters will never respect it, and neither will I. Your proper audience are the likes of whizzy, and if you try really hard, maybe Walker.

In the meantime, your little idiot protoge has just unambiguously blamed the Holocaust on the Jews and then he let slip that he wants a racially segregated Europe. He's a Nazi and it really doesn't impress anybody that you think you are too clever to get called one of those names.

Go save your idiot child before an admin notices him.
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No, of course. The position you start with is the one you naturally carry, and end with.

Whatever Wizard’s ideas are — right or wrong — I want to know what they are. That’s my rôle: researcher.
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I enjoy destroying pawns. They admit to so much, before they perish.

According to it, I wish for Europe to be "racially segregated", meaning what exactly??? That Sweden should belong to the Swedish, or Ireland to the Irish, or Italy to the Italians, or Belarus to the Belarusians? Of course, it admits to Globalist and Marxist ideologies, that they should instead be flooded with third world, illegal immigrants. That is its modus operandi, of course. And anybody opposed to such Globalist ideas, that your neighborhood might suddenly be swamped by third-world invaders, you're a "NAZI!" for asking questions, critiquing, or even nooooticing!

These pawns, pea-brains, all act, react, emote, the exact same way.


But to open attack against the stronger pieces, the knights, the bishops, the rooks...eventually the queen and king, you need to take some pawns:

https://rumble.com/v470oeu-short-clip-d ... fuent.html
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