uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 am...do NOT be to surprised when your BEGINNING and EXPANDING Universe THEORY falls by the wayside.
Age, you are talking to someone who accepts that, however unlikely it seems, Georges Berkeley might have been right and the entire universe is an idea in the mind of god.
WHY do now propose that that one "might have been right"?
It seems you do jump around a lot and just accept whatever 'theory' or idea at the time as being what is true and right.
To me that idea or theory is just as OBVIOUSLY False, Wrong, AND Incorrect as the OTHER ABSURD and RIDICULOUS idea or theory that the WHOLE Universe BEGAN and IS EXPANDING IS.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 amAs I have previously INFORMED you I do NOT do 'theories', and so I much prefer to ONLY LOOK AT and DISCUSS
what IS IRREFUTABLY True INSTEAD.
The only thing that is irrefutably true is that there is thinking going on.
AND this is HOW and WHY I can BACK UP and SUPPORT the CLAIMS I make here, which, as I keep INFORMING you, ARE IRREFUTABLE.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 amThat way, unlike you, I can back up and support EVERY thing I say and CLAIM here.
You can't even prove you exist. As Descartes pointed out, perhaps I am hallucinating, or dreaming, or being deceived by a malevolent demon.
When one DISCOVERS WHO and WHAT the 'you' IS, EXACTLY, then CONTRARY to what you SAY and BELIEVE here can BE DONE.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 amJust so you become AWARE, what I said there, is NOT INSISTING the Universe is 'static'. In fact I CLAIM the opposite.
That does surprise me. You have been adamant that the universe is not expanding.
YES I HAVE.
And the VERY REASON WHY you are surprised is because you have NOT previously made absolutely ANY attempt to CLARIFY and UNDERSTAND what is ACTUALLY MEANT by that statement. Instead you just kept CONTINUALLY MAKING ASSUMPTIONS, while continually JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS. Which, ONCE AGAIN, have been TOTALLY Wrong, while ALSO being TOTALLY ABSURD. But which I have left you with them. This is because I am NOT here to convince you of absolutely ANY thing.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 amBut you would NEVER KNOW THIS because you do NOT SEEK CLARIFICATION.
Well I have tried.
LOL
SEEING THROUGH your FAKE ATTEMPT has been VERY EASY.
What has been BLOCKING you, as I have been continually TELLING you are those Wrong ASSUMPTIONS and BELIEFS of yours. And, as I ALSO KEEP INFORMING you UNTIL you RID "yourself" of 'rhose' BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, and STOP making further BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, then you will NEVER GAIN CLARIFICATION.
SEE, I have NO absolutely 'need' whatsoever to EXPLAIN what is IRREFUTABLY True, Right, and Correct. As I SAY, I just WAIT for those who are Truly SERIOUS in Wanting to learn MORE or ANEW, and those ones DO. NOT just 'try'.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:14 am You prefer to just MAKE ASSUMPTIONS and JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, INSTEAD.
Which fits in PERFECTLY with your thinking or BELIEF that you find it 'perfectly acceptable and reasonable' to just conjure up, or ASSUME, things without having ALL of the information FIRST.
It's hypothesising rather than assuming and not much of it is me hypothesising, rather I am trying to present some well established ideas in mainstream science in ways that will help some people understand them.
I KNOW what you ARE DOING.
I AM JUST helping you to Correct the 'things', which you SAY and CLAIM here that are False, Wrong, and/or Incorrect. I do this in My WAY that will help 'you', indivually AND collectively, so that the SAME MISTAKES will NOT be made, in the future.
Now, what is the ACTUAL DIFFERENCE between 'hypothesizing' and 'aasuming', to you?
Also, you USE the words "well established ideas in mainstream science" as though this gives some "weight' to what those 'ideas', which are, essentially, JUST 'theories' anyway,and AO do NOT necessarily have ANY CONNECTION AT ALL with what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY True, Right, AND Correct.
Teaching people, what ends up being False, Wrong, or Incorrect information anyway, I found REALLY SLOWS DOWN the process of True LEARNING and UNDERSTANDING.
Also, what REAL PURPOSE would there be in helping some people understand what is or could be just False, Wrong, or Incorrect information anyway?
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
The problem that all scientists have is that they cannot know that they have all the information; it is the nature of investigation that you don't know what you will find until you find it.
BUT WHEN you have FOUND 'it', like I HAVE, THEN you COULD, and WOULD BE ABLE TO, back up and support EVERY thing about 'it'.
If one can NOT back up and support THEIR CLAIMS, the I suggest they take ANOTHER and REALLY GOOD LOOK AT what 'it' IA, EXACTLY, what they are SEEING, and SAYING.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
In addition, any collection of observations can be interpreted in different ways.
I KNOW. This is what I have been continually INFORMING you of.
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
It is conceivable that you really are a conduit for some celestial intelligence; an alternative explanation might be that you are batshit insane. Who can tell? All theories are underdetermined.
ONCE AGAIN, WHY MAKE UP ANOTHER 'theory' here?
WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT, and DISCUSS, ONLY,
what IS IRREFUTABLY True and Right, INSTEAD, like I like to do?
uwot wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:38 am
Anyway, I wrote about the philosophy of science for the magazine
You REALLY do like to promote YOUR OWN writings and STORIES, correct?
Yes I might.