Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:07 am
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Solving Climate Change.
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Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:17 pm
Most definitely all my views are minority views, many of them exclusive. In the case of climate change, I am not alone, but only a few of the best scientists with no political agenda or academic axes to grind have the courage to discount anthropogenic climate change. But it would not matter, I would not believe in it even if I were the only individual in the whole world who didn't.
No one who is willing to do the research and think for themselves buys the global political global warming lies, but the great mass of humanity is gullible and will believe whatever their political and academic authorities teach them.
I know. If it weren't such a devastating lie, it would be a joke. No one has to pretend to respect a lie.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:14 pm
You'll be glad to know you're giving great aid and comfort to the likes of Extinction Rebellion who can cite you as an example of someone who remains to be convinced. It's been said, their form of protest is moot since everyone now accepts that climate change is real - but not you! If you would continue to provide them with a platform, go make your conspiracy theory argument with them - I'm sure you'll be welcome. The rest of us have moved on. Your remarks are off topic here. This thread is about solving climate change!RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:17 pm I know. If it weren't such a devastating lie, it would be a joke. No one has to pretend to respect a lie.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:16 pm
*shut up and toe the (party line).Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:14 pmYou'll be glad to know you're giving great aid and comfort to the likes of Extinction Rebellion who can cite you as an example of someone who remains to be convinced. It's been said, their form of protest is moot since everyone now accepts that climate change is real - but not you! If you would continue to provide them with a platform, go make that argument with them - I'm sure you'll be welcome. The rest of us have moved on. *Your remarks are off topic here. This thread is about solving climate change!RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:17 pm I know. If it weren't such a devastating lie, it would be a joke. No one has to pretend to respect a lie.
fuck off, slaver
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:25 pm
Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:14 pmYou'll be glad to know you're giving great aid and comfort to the likes of Extinction Rebellion who can cite you as an example of someone who remains to be convinced. It's been said, their form of protest is moot since everyone now accepts that climate change is real - but not you! If you would continue to provide them with a platform, go make that argument with them - I'm sure you'll be welcome. The rest of us have moved on. *Your remarks are off topic here. This thread is about solving climate change!RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:17 pm I know. If it weren't such a devastating lie, it would be a joke. No one has to pretend to respect a lie.
I've given you my reasons, but if you want another - I'll not allow my thread to be mischievously de-railed onto an unproductive branch line. The title of the thread is solving climate change, and I'd like to keep my focus on that subject. There's no point discussing whether climate change is real. That discussion has been had, at inordinate length, for many years - and has amounted to little more than serial contradiction. Oh, no it hasn't! Oh, yes it has! What's the point? If you don't accept climate change is real and doesn't need solving, this thread is not for you! Start your own thread and have a thoroughly unproductive time. I'll even drop by to mock, but not here!
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Drilling the world's hottest geothermal well
Date:
October 23, 2015
Source:
SINTEF
Summary:
There is an inexhaustible amount of energy lying right beneath our feet. It is a renewable and stable energy source -- free of carbon dioxide emissions. Researchers are now planning to drill deep into the Earth to extract it. If they succeed it will be a major technological breakthrough. Ninety-nine per cent of planet Earth has a temperature in excess of 1,000 degrees Celsius as a result of residual heat inherited from the Earth's primordial origins and the breakdown of radioactive materials. This heat can be transformed into energy -- and there is more than enough to go round.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094414.htm
Date:
October 23, 2015
Source:
SINTEF
Summary:
There is an inexhaustible amount of energy lying right beneath our feet. It is a renewable and stable energy source -- free of carbon dioxide emissions. Researchers are now planning to drill deep into the Earth to extract it. If they succeed it will be a major technological breakthrough. Ninety-nine per cent of planet Earth has a temperature in excess of 1,000 degrees Celsius as a result of residual heat inherited from the Earth's primordial origins and the breakdown of radioactive materials. This heat can be transformed into energy -- and there is more than enough to go round.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094414.htm
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pm
Who's "us?" The congregation of the church of global warming? Environmentalism is an ideology with no more foundation than any religion.
I'm sorry you don't like the comments. You're the one who chose the absurd premise of global warming, I'm only pointing out the topic is nonsense. You don't have to agree with it, but it makes you look defensive when you try to repress comments you don't like. You have to understand that to others who have not fallen for the faith of global warming, trying to, "solve climate change," is like trying to save the world from space invaders. It's not possible to take it seriously.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:11 pm
RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmWho's "us?" The congregation of the church of global warming? Environmentalism is an ideology with no more foundation than any religion.
You're not sorry; your comments are deliberately obstructionist. You're a troll. I don't believe you honestly believe what you're saying; and I don't want to look into the darkness of your true motives.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmI'm sorry you don't like the comments. You're the one who chose the absurd premise of global warming, I'm only pointing out the topic is nonsense. You don't have to agree with it, but it makes you look defensive when you try to repress comments you don't like. You have to understand that to others who have not fallen for the faith of global warming, trying to, "solve climate change," is like trying to save the world from space invaders. It's not possible to take it seriously.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:38 pm
It is a terrible thing to be motivated by fear, especially fear of the truth. If you really have doubts of my sincerity please see my article, "What I Don't Believe," here on Philosophy Now. If you read the whole article you'll see it's because of what I do believe I do not believe the superstitious nonsense dominating academia and politics.Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:11 pmRCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmWho's "us?" The congregation of the church of global warming? Environmentalism is an ideology with no more foundation than any religion.You're not sorry; your comments are deliberately obstructionist. You're a troll. I don't believe you honestly believe what you're saying; and I don't want to look into the darkness of your true motives.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmI'm sorry you don't like the comments. You're the one who chose the absurd premise of global warming, I'm only pointing out the topic is nonsense. You don't have to agree with it, but it makes you look defensive when you try to repress comments you don't like. You have to understand that to others who have not fallen for the faith of global warming, trying to, "solve climate change," is like trying to save the world from space invaders. It's not possible to take it seriously.
You'll also discover I have no interest in convincing anyone else, no political or ideological agenda. I'm only interested in reason and truth and have no desire with regard to others except for them to be free to think and choose how to live for themselves without anyone else's interference.
If you think I mean by, "I'm sorry," I am sorry it made you unhappy, I'm not. How you respond to what others say is entirely your own choosing. I'm sorry you are so insecure you'd be offended by anything so innocuous.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:13 pm
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Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:21 pm
Drilling the world's hottest geothermal well
Date:
October 23, 2015
Source:
SINTEF
Summary:
There is an inexhaustible amount of energy lying right beneath our feet. It is a renewable and stable energy source -- free of carbon dioxide emissions. Researchers are now planning to drill deep into the Earth to extract it. If they succeed it will be a major technological breakthrough. Ninety-nine per cent of planet Earth has a temperature in excess of 1,000 degrees Celsius as a result of residual heat inherited from the Earth's primordial origins and the breakdown of radioactive materials. This heat can be transformed into energy -- and there is more than enough to go round.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094414.htm
Date:
October 23, 2015
Source:
SINTEF
Summary:
There is an inexhaustible amount of energy lying right beneath our feet. It is a renewable and stable energy source -- free of carbon dioxide emissions. Researchers are now planning to drill deep into the Earth to extract it. If they succeed it will be a major technological breakthrough. Ninety-nine per cent of planet Earth has a temperature in excess of 1,000 degrees Celsius as a result of residual heat inherited from the Earth's primordial origins and the breakdown of radioactive materials. This heat can be transformed into energy -- and there is more than enough to go round.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094414.htm
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:57 pm
You honestly think there's anyone with half a brain who doesn't see through your bullshit?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:38 pmIt is a terrible thing to be motivated by fear, especially fear of the truth. If you really have doubts of my sincerity please see my article, "What I Don't Believe," here on Philosophy Now. If you read the whole article you'll see it's because of what I do believe I do not believe the superstitious nonsense dominating academia and politics.Vitruvius wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:11 pmRCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmWho's "us?" The congregation of the church of global warming? Environmentalism is an ideology with no more foundation than any religion.You're not sorry; your comments are deliberately obstructionist. You're a troll. I don't believe you honestly believe what you're saying; and I don't want to look into the darkness of your true motives.RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:03 pmI'm sorry you don't like the comments. You're the one who chose the absurd premise of global warming, I'm only pointing out the topic is nonsense. You don't have to agree with it, but it makes you look defensive when you try to repress comments you don't like. You have to understand that to others who have not fallen for the faith of global warming, trying to, "solve climate change," is like trying to save the world from space invaders. It's not possible to take it seriously.
You'll also discover I have no interest in convincing anyone else, no political or ideological agenda. I'm only interested in reason and truth and have no desire with regard to others except for them to be free to think and choose how to live for themselves without anyone else's interference.
If you think I mean by, "I'm sorry," I am sorry it made you unhappy, I'm not. How you respond to what others say is entirely your own choosing. I'm sorry you are so insecure you'd be offended by anything so innocuous.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:00 pm
A Hurricane Ida wildcard: Effects on U.S. energy supply
By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press 39 mins ago
Companies evacuated oil and gas platforms south of Louisiana ahead of Hurricane Ida but a far greater worry was potential damage to refineries and petrochemical plants in its projected path from flooding and storm surge.
Vehicles head slowly east on the Interstate-10 twin spans leaving New Orleans while only a trickle of cars heads west back into the city before landfall of Hurricane Ida in New Orleans, Saturday, Aug. 28, 2021. A combination of voluntary and mandatory evacuations have been called for cities and communities across the region including New Orleans, where the mayor ordered a mandatory evacuation for areas outside the city’s levee system and a voluntary evacuation for residents inside the levee system.
Nearly 300 offshore platforms — or half the manned platforms in the Gulf of Mexico — were evacuated ahead of the storm, their production temporarily halted, the U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement said on its website. Floating rigs also cleared out. In all, more than 80% of gulf oil and gas production halted, the agency said.
But a potentially more serious concern was the fate of refineries and petrochemical plants along the Mississippi River between Baton Rouge and New Orleans in or near the projected path of a storm whose maximum sustained winds were expected to reach 130 mph (209 kph) at anticipated landfall late Sunday.
Louisiana’s 17 oil refineries account for nearly one-fifth of the nation’s refining capacity and can process. More than 4 million barrels of refining capacity was in harm's way, said Richard Joswick, head of S&P Global Platts Analytics.
The Energy Information Administration said Ida could affect local energy supply — especially transportation fuel and electricity. Its maps show more than a dozen plants along the petrochemical corridor vulnerable to flooding.
Less clear is whether the domestic fuel supply might be affected. U.S. daily oil consumption is a little under 20 million barrels a day. Analysts said it was too early to say, though Platts said the storm could halt production of 765,000 barrels a day in gulf output.
Platts' Joswick said any petroleum price impacts from Ida are likely to be most acute for gasoline but could be expected to return to pre-storm levels in one to three weeks.
It was not immediately clear how many refineries and petrochemical plants might be shut down.
Phillips 66 was halting production at its refinery on the Mississippi just south of New Orleans in Belle Chasse, Louisiana, due in part to "the potential for storm surge,” said company spokesman Bernardo Fallas. It's daily capacity is 250,000 barrels.
Exxon Mobil said its Baton Rouge refinery, which produces about 520,000 barrels of crude daily, continued to operate while Chevron said it had shut down operations at terminals on the Mississippi river and gulf coast and their related pipeline systems. Shell, Marathon and Valero also have refineries close to the storm's projected path.
“The industry has been through this maybe too many times over the last few decades,” said Peter McNally, an energy analyst at Third Bridge, said of the hurricane. Several refineries in Lake Charles, west of Ida's projected path, suffered wind damage in Hurricane Laura almost exactly a year ago.
Meteorologist Jeff Masters, who flew hurricane missions for the government and founded Weather Underground, said Ida is forecast to move through “the just absolute worst place for a hurricane.”
While refineries and petrochemical plants are generally built to withstand high winds, they are not necessarily prepared for high water, an increasing problem as global warming spurs higher rainfall amounts in big storms.
McNally said the industry is most concerned about flooding, which is what cause so much havoc in 2017 with Hurricane Harvey in the Houston area, where petroleum products were spilled at flooded tanker and chemical plants.
”Louisiana is low so you are prone to the flooding. These things are built to withstand winds but it’s flooding you have tougher time dealing with,” he said.
Sixty percent of the gasoline used on the East Coast are shipped from the Gulf Coast, much of it through the Colonial Pipeline, which is in the storm's path.
In addition to oil production, Louisiana accounts for 9% of U.S. natural gas yields. Last year, the state’s two liquefied natural gas export terminals shipped out about 55% of total U.S. LNG exports, according to the Energy Information Administration.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/a-hur ... d=msedgntp
By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press 39 mins ago
Companies evacuated oil and gas platforms south of Louisiana ahead of Hurricane Ida but a far greater worry was potential damage to refineries and petrochemical plants in its projected path from flooding and storm surge.
Vehicles head slowly east on the Interstate-10 twin spans leaving New Orleans while only a trickle of cars heads west back into the city before landfall of Hurricane Ida in New Orleans, Saturday, Aug. 28, 2021. A combination of voluntary and mandatory evacuations have been called for cities and communities across the region including New Orleans, where the mayor ordered a mandatory evacuation for areas outside the city’s levee system and a voluntary evacuation for residents inside the levee system.
Nearly 300 offshore platforms — or half the manned platforms in the Gulf of Mexico — were evacuated ahead of the storm, their production temporarily halted, the U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement said on its website. Floating rigs also cleared out. In all, more than 80% of gulf oil and gas production halted, the agency said.
But a potentially more serious concern was the fate of refineries and petrochemical plants along the Mississippi River between Baton Rouge and New Orleans in or near the projected path of a storm whose maximum sustained winds were expected to reach 130 mph (209 kph) at anticipated landfall late Sunday.
Louisiana’s 17 oil refineries account for nearly one-fifth of the nation’s refining capacity and can process. More than 4 million barrels of refining capacity was in harm's way, said Richard Joswick, head of S&P Global Platts Analytics.
The Energy Information Administration said Ida could affect local energy supply — especially transportation fuel and electricity. Its maps show more than a dozen plants along the petrochemical corridor vulnerable to flooding.
Less clear is whether the domestic fuel supply might be affected. U.S. daily oil consumption is a little under 20 million barrels a day. Analysts said it was too early to say, though Platts said the storm could halt production of 765,000 barrels a day in gulf output.
Platts' Joswick said any petroleum price impacts from Ida are likely to be most acute for gasoline but could be expected to return to pre-storm levels in one to three weeks.
It was not immediately clear how many refineries and petrochemical plants might be shut down.
Phillips 66 was halting production at its refinery on the Mississippi just south of New Orleans in Belle Chasse, Louisiana, due in part to "the potential for storm surge,” said company spokesman Bernardo Fallas. It's daily capacity is 250,000 barrels.
Exxon Mobil said its Baton Rouge refinery, which produces about 520,000 barrels of crude daily, continued to operate while Chevron said it had shut down operations at terminals on the Mississippi river and gulf coast and their related pipeline systems. Shell, Marathon and Valero also have refineries close to the storm's projected path.
“The industry has been through this maybe too many times over the last few decades,” said Peter McNally, an energy analyst at Third Bridge, said of the hurricane. Several refineries in Lake Charles, west of Ida's projected path, suffered wind damage in Hurricane Laura almost exactly a year ago.
Meteorologist Jeff Masters, who flew hurricane missions for the government and founded Weather Underground, said Ida is forecast to move through “the just absolute worst place for a hurricane.”
While refineries and petrochemical plants are generally built to withstand high winds, they are not necessarily prepared for high water, an increasing problem as global warming spurs higher rainfall amounts in big storms.
McNally said the industry is most concerned about flooding, which is what cause so much havoc in 2017 with Hurricane Harvey in the Houston area, where petroleum products were spilled at flooded tanker and chemical plants.
”Louisiana is low so you are prone to the flooding. These things are built to withstand winds but it’s flooding you have tougher time dealing with,” he said.
Sixty percent of the gasoline used on the East Coast are shipped from the Gulf Coast, much of it through the Colonial Pipeline, which is in the storm's path.
In addition to oil production, Louisiana accounts for 9% of U.S. natural gas yields. Last year, the state’s two liquefied natural gas export terminals shipped out about 55% of total U.S. LNG exports, according to the Energy Information Administration.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/a-hur ... d=msedgntp
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:14 pm
What makes you think I care what you think or believe? Believe whatever you want.Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:57 pmYou honestly think there's anyone with half a brain who doesn't see through your bullshit?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:38 pmIt is a terrible thing to be motivated by fear, especially fear of the truth. If you really have doubts of my sincerity please see my article, "What I Don't Believe," here on Philosophy Now. If you read the whole article you'll see it's because of what I do believe I do not believe the superstitious nonsense dominating academia and politics.
You'll also discover I have no interest in convincing anyone else, no political or ideological agenda. I'm only interested in reason and truth and have no desire with regard to others except for them to be free to think and choose how to live for themselves without anyone else's interference.
If you think I mean by, "I'm sorry," I am sorry it made you unhappy, I'm not. How you respond to what others say is entirely your own choosing. I'm sorry you are so insecure you'd be offended by anything so innocuous.
Re: Solving Climate Change.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:01 pm
Get off my thread! Take Alta with you!RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:14 pmWhat makes you think I care what you think or believe? Believe whatever you want.Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:57 pmYou honestly think there's anyone with half a brain who doesn't see through your bullshit?RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:38 pm
It is a terrible thing to be motivated by fear, especially fear of the truth. If you really have doubts of my sincerity please see my article, "What I Don't Believe," here on Philosophy Now. If you read the whole article you'll see it's because of what I do believe I do not believe the superstitious nonsense dominating academia and politics.
You'll also discover I have no interest in convincing anyone else, no political or ideological agenda. I'm only interested in reason and truth and have no desire with regard to others except for them to be free to think and choose how to live for themselves without anyone else's interference.
If you think I mean by, "I'm sorry," I am sorry it made you unhappy, I'm not. How you respond to what others say is entirely your own choosing. I'm sorry you are so insecure you'd be offended by anything so innocuous.