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Why did you do that?

This gives a sense of being there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGLSjOtrE8

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:21 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:26 pmWhich part of this do you not understand?

I understand that even with the laptop blackout there's more than enough information to warrant an independent investigation to determine enough proof to convict the Pooka.

Then by all means press for an investigation, but that is different to this:

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:33 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:46 amSome of that is true, but you say "I'm bright enough know who the Big Guy is." You don't know who the Big Guy is, and you are not bright enough even to follow your own logic.

Joe Biden.

Vegetarian Taxidermy wrote:

You can't fault Trump on his entertainment value.

I suppose dictators are not all of them personally entertaining. But all dictators, ever since we got rid of divine right of kings and emperors, need to have some entertaining mystique whether deliberately manufactured or natural.

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:53 am

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:21 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:26 pmWhich part of this do you not understand?

I understand that even with the laptop blackout there's more than enough information to warrant an independent investigation to determine enough proof to convict the Pooka.

Then by all means press for an investigation, but that is different to this:

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:33 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:46 amSome of that is true, but you say "I'm bright enough know who the Big Guy is." You don't know who the Big Guy is, and you are not bright enough even to follow your own logic.

Joe Biden.

No sh*t, Sherlock.

Surely your powers of reasoning extend past that.
You are not in the conditions of a courtroom and if you were, reasonable doubt as to Biden's innocence of corruption, and his influence peddling, has been established in other ways.

Why investigate Biden instead of the Pooka?

btw: Don't rule the Pooka out. They are said to appear to lushes.

You may not know it, but there will be no investigation for which to press. The Democrats have the executive and legislative branches. The Democrats are not interested in an investigation, that is, unless The Big Guy starts feeling his oats and doesn't play ball. Only the people have an interest in the truth, not the Democrats.

Who do you think is writing the script that he reads for the world to hear?

Do you think The Big Guy appears to be heavily medicated every time he appears?

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:16 pmYou are not in the conditions of a courtroom and if you were, reasonable doubt as to Biden's innocence of corruption, and his influence peddling, has been established in other ways.

Then you would acquit. Reasonable doubt as to innocence is not grounds for conviction. If that is the sort of legal structure you want, you are in the wrong country.

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:48 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:16 pmYou are not in the conditions of a courtroom and if you were, reasonable doubt as to Biden's innocence of corruption, and his influence peddling, has been established in other ways.

Then you would acquit. Reasonable doubt as to innocence is not grounds for conviction. If that is the sort of legal structure you want, you are in the wrong country.

It's grounds for investigation.

Why investigate Biden instead of the Pooka?

Who do you think is writing the script that he reads for the world to hear?

Do you think The Big Guy appears to be heavily medicated every time he appears?

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:07 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:48 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:16 pmYou are not in the conditions of a courtroom and if you were, reasonable doubt as to Biden's innocence of corruption, and his influence peddling, has been established in other ways.

Then you would acquit. Reasonable doubt as to innocence is not grounds for conviction. If that is the sort of legal structure you want, you are in the wrong country.

It's grounds for investigation.

As you say:

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:16 pmNo sh*t, Sherlock.

And as may eventually sink in, it is different to:

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:33 pm

tillingborn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:46 amSome of that is true, but you say "I'm bright enough know who the Big Guy is." You don't know who the Big Guy is, and you are not bright enough even to follow your own logic.

Joe Biden.

The Big Guy is Joe Biden.

He should be investigated.

You're not bright enough to follow my logic.

All that you've said, which isn't much, has been considered before you said it, in reaching the conclusion that:

The Big Guy is Joe Biden.

If that is the sort of legal structure you want, you are in the wrong country.

Save the crap talk. It insults my intelligence.

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:29 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:58 pm US presidents never do any good anyway therefore their only value to the world is as entertainers. You can't fault Trump on his entertainment value.

True enough, but presidents don't have a monopoly on idiocy. Politics is a mental disease, and government is much like an insane asylum, but the one's that are funniest are those who take them all seriously.

"Oh my God, Twitter has banned Trump's account, how is he going to communicate with his people?" they cry, wringing their hands in grief and terror. Or, "Trump is inciting riots," the rioters scream. Great fun!

Check out the horror show.

Not so much fun.

UNBELIEVABLE Footage | Trump Supporters Battle Cops Inside the Capitol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

Dang. I want that no-prize. But I can't get that one.

movie: *serenity; character: mr. universe









*really just a big screen, expanded episode of the firefly series, a short-lived space opera that's appropriate for the times

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:57 am

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:29 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:58 pm US presidents never do any good anyway therefore their only value to the world is as entertainers. You can't fault Trump on his entertainment value.

True enough, but presidents don't have a monopoly on idiocy. Politics is a mental disease, and government is much like an insane asylum, but the one's that are funniest are those who take them all seriously.

"Oh my God, Twitter has banned Trump's account, how is he going to communicate with his people?" they cry, wringing their hands in grief and terror. Or, "Trump is inciting riots," the rioters scream. Great fun!

I doubt if the rioters are screaming that. What is your alternative to 'politicians'' and 'politics'?

Not sure what you mean by an alternative. I have no interest in changing anything. I have exactly the same view as H.L. Mencken:

I believe in only one thing: freedon; but I do not believe in freedom enough to want to force it upon anyone.

As he wrote to Upton Sinclair:

So long as there are men in the world, 99 percent of them will be idiots, and so long as 99 percent of them are idiots they will thirst for religion (or ideologies, leaders and authorities), and so long as they thirst for such things [they will never be free]. I see no way out. If you blow up one specific faith, they will embrace another. [Altered by me.]

No one is going to save the world, or humanity from itself. No political system or social program will ever make individuals free or happy, and I have no interest in anyone's program or plans to do so. The only alternative is to live one's own life as well as possible to make one's self free.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:41 pm Check out the horror show.

Not so much fun.

UNBELIEVABLE Footage | Trump Supporters Battle Cops Inside the Capitol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

I think it's hilarious! Idiots agains idiots fighting for they know not what. It's exactly what one would expect from those who take politics seriously. I guess you do, heh?

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:25 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:41 pm Check out the horror show.

Not so much fun.

UNBELIEVABLE Footage | Trump Supporters Battle Cops Inside the Capitol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

I think it's hilarious! Idiots agains idiots fighting for they know not what. It's exactly what one would expect from those who take politics seriously. I guess you do, heh?

Only to the extent that it’s one of the most influential forces upon a person’s life.

I don’t attend crowded events. Concerts, rallies, etc. Not a herd animal.

I don't find pain and suffering to be funny.

Since you do ...

Over.

How is insanity entertaining?

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:48 pm

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:25 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:41 pm Check out the horror show.

Not so much fun.

UNBELIEVABLE Footage | Trump Supporters Battle Cops Inside the Capitol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

I think it's hilarious! Idiots agains idiots fighting for they know not what. It's exactly what one would expect from those who take politics seriously. I guess you do, heh?

Only to the extent that it’s one of the most influential forces upon a person’s life.

It will influence you a lot less if you shut off your TV and take measure to protect yourself against that influence.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:48 pm I don’t attend crowded events. Concerts, rallies, etc. Not a herd animal.

Very wise! The first rule of self-defence, "don't be there when it happens."

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:48 pm I don't find pain and suffering to be funny.

Either do I, which is why I evade it.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:48 pm Since you do ... Over.

I don't enjoy seeing anyone else suffer either, but those who do, because of their own stupid choices, are just experiencing reality's justice [not the man-made nonsense called justice].

It's not other's suffering, I enjoy, it's the irony of those who cause so much trouble acting on the nonsense they believe that everyone takes seriously. I have no sympathy for those who suffer because of their own stupid choices.