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Age wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:38 am I have NEVER felt any animosity towards you at all, ever. 'you' will ALWAYS be a friend just expressing your views.

I see EVERY one's words here as just an expressions of views. Nothing more and nothing less.

If a view is expressed in a validly and soundly well reasoned argument, then so be it. But, if a view is expressed in any other way, then so be it also. I understand fully where and why ALL views have come from and arise, therefore, in a sense, I TOTALLY understand each and every view, without necessarily having to agree with it, nor accept it.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:11 am Believed Gods and their creations do not exist except as fictional stories, all quite silly fables absent of any real literal actual substance.

In truth, the very idea that there is a ''My God'' would be like holding on to the believed idea that the cartoon character Cinderellla has a biological father.

The human mind wants these characters to be real because they make us feel good, they stimulate the pleasure centres of the brain, but sadly these characters are not real, and we really do know that deep down, but still we cling on to the belief. And that clinging is what keeps the story spinning, the world of make belief becomes a never ending story, and it's an addiction that is hard to break free from.

Whatever is labeled a ''thing'' is really not what the label says it is, but since it is NOT KNOWN what anything is, a label will always suffice and make what is really not known.. known. And it's the lie we all fall for.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:28 pm
The recursive nature of being necessitates a personal God exists in the respect the nature of man , as formed in the image of God, mandates a common bond at the individual level to the source. Man is personally connected to the creator in the respect man is made in the image of God. The connection between the image and the source necessitates a degree of personal relationship given each man is a fractal of the source.

This fractal nature necessitates a common symmetry between the source and creator with this symmetry being in the ability to observe. Creation is God observing God through God, with man's self reflective qualities being both part of and an approximation the greater act of self reflection of God. This common quality of self measurement necessitates God as simultaneously impersonal as well given this ability reflects across all of being, specifically the nature of man.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:28 pm
The recursive nature of being necessitates a personal God exists in the respect the nature of man , as formed in the image of God, mandates a common bond at the individual level to the source. Man is personally connected to the creator in the respect man is made in the image of God. The connection between the image and the source necessitates a degree of personal relationship given each man is a fractal of the source.

This fractal nature necessitates a common symmetry between the source and creator with this symmetry being in the ability to observe. Creation is God observing God through God, with man's self reflective qualities being both part of and an approximation the greater act of self reflection of God. This common quality of self measurement necessitates God as simultaneously impersonal as well given this ability reflects across all of being, specifically the nature of man.

Thanks for your view. I used to believe in all that crap once. But now see it all as just another one of the human made silly fables.

God is just another word for the unseen invisible consciousness that is present in all living organisms. And since consciousness is actually unknowable in the sense it has never been seen, only known conceptually. The only image of God is nothing but an image of the imageless, inseparable from. In essence, nothing is real, nothing is everything, and everything is nothing.

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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 pm You are ignoring recursion with recursion, as universal, necessitating God, as consciousness, as both personal and impersonal. Consciousness is seen through the forms, and the forms are grounded in the simple dot, thus consciousness is seen through the dot. Consciousness is a self reflective dot which gives grounds to all the forms.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:08 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:54 pm You are ignoring recursion with recursion, as universal, necessitating God, as consciousness, as both personal and impersonal. Consciousness is seen through the forms, and the forms are grounded in the simple dot, thus consciousness is seen through the dot. Consciousness is a self reflective dot which gives grounds to all the forms.

Not ignoring it..I know what you are saying, but I see your words as just more silly meaningless knowledge known by no thing.

The universe is a deaf dumb and blind phenomena pretending to know and see itself. Human knowledge only showed up a few seconds ago, prior to which the Dinosaurs ruled the earth for 165 million years, that's how dumb life really is. The planet is riddled with dumb weird alien looking creatures, both in the oceans and on land, the human primate is the dumbest of all. If it wasn't for that big dumb rock smashing into the earth, humans wouldn't even be here telling their dumb fables to anyone who will buy them.

You claim humans make up fables yet use a modern fable of creation yourself.
If all knowledge is fundamentally nothing then by default your stance is nothing as well.


Who do you think is in charge of this planet earth? humans ...or some other creature? Humans can't even run a bath, let alone run the planet with any sort of intelligent authority.

There's just no one or thing running the show, it's a driverless train on a oneway track to nowhere for no reason or purpose.

Recursion, as repetition, and isomorphism, as the inversion of one thing into a symmetrical opposite, necessitates underlying principles as governing creation. Context is constant as a fundamental loop which guides everything.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:59 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:24 am does that ever sink into you that I do not have one iota of understanding a single word you are saying to me ?

This is sinking in further, to me, and to the "OTHERS", NOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:06 pm There's just no one or thing running the show, it's a driverless train on a oneway track to nowhere for no reason or purpose.

”Recursion, as repetition, and isomorphism, as the inversion of one thing into a symmetrical opposite, necessitates underlying principles as governing creation. Context is constant as a fundamental loop which guides everything.”

but the principal’s are fundamentally empty because everything is actually nothing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 pm You claim humans make up fables yet use a modern fable of creation yourself.
If all knowledge is fundamentally nothing then by default your stance is nothing as well.


yes, that’s exactly what I am/not saying..

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:06 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:59 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:24 am does that ever sink into you that I do not have one iota of understanding a single word you are saying to me ?

This is sinking in further, to me, and to the "OTHERS", NOW.

Are these "OTHERS" humans, or other beings?

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:37 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 pm You claim humans make up fables yet use a modern fable of creation yourself.
If all knowledge is fundamentally nothing then by default your stance is nothing as well.


yes, that’s exactly what I am/not saying..

Yet you use the stance to justify your stance to justify nothing. You are using nothing to justify nothing thus no justification for your stance ensues. You have no argument.