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Bonobo - Silver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uczQRNRGTi4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80QHRTQ3Kmw

She has the deeper voice.

Ever notice how background people in scripted movies always turn towards camera as much as possible, like in restaurant scenes. Makes the film objectively unreal but subjectively accurate since that’s the sense imbued by the camera viewpoint, including the eye, as the witnessing center of the universe.

I read that the automobile appeared just as NYC was starting to sink under the weight of horse hockey.

In the scheme of things, this is like watching an aquarium.

Quantic - Time Is The Enemy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUeo5sagkA

One of my favorite tunes--can't get it out of my mind again, since someone mentioned the word on another forum, and I posted the studio version of the song there. I actually prefer this live version, though, partially because of Tony Levin's (beautifully odd) fretless bass work as well as the phase effect, but also because of the slightly extended second half (the part that begins right around 2:00):

Peter Gabriel - "Humdrum"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSW3NRDwO0

Just for VT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUZmxLSZBLI

These guys did a nice job on this one,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaTQ5-XfMM

thedoc wrote:Just for VT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUZmxLSZBLI

I told you I thought Liberace was an excellent pianist who sold his soul. Why all the violins and accompaniments? He also has some kind of spasm at 1:56. Otherwise he does an ok, if not particularly sensitive job, apart from all the tasteless fluff he's added.

Richard Clayderman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U21Ts_FfRU4
Spot the deliberate mistakes. Apparently Clayderman thinks he can improve on Beethoven.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

thedoc wrote:Just for VT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUZmxLSZBLI

I told you I thought Liberace was an excellent pianist who sold his soul. Why all the violins and accompaniments? He also has some kind of spasm at 1:56. Otherwise he does an ok, if not particularly sensitive job, apart from all the tasteless fluff he's added.

Richard Clayderman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U21Ts_FfRU4
Spot the deliberate mistakes. Apparently Clayderman thinks he can improve on Beethoven.

He did cut it a bit short, and I did notice a few errors, not sure if they were intentional.

I do know that there are several places in the music where you can jump ahead or back. Measure 46 - 9 is one very obvious place, if you continue to play the 1st triplet in measure 46 it is the same as measure 9. Once I was playing and not paying very close attention, and found myself repeating a section that I had played just before. When I got to the measure the next time I was careful to continue to the end.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: I told you I thought Liberace was an excellent pianist who sold his soul. Why all the violins and accompaniments?

I have seen musicians who will take a solo piece and add other instruments making an orchestral work out of it. If you have an orchestra at your disposal, why not give them something to do? It doesn't make the piece better or worse, just different.

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: I told you I thought Liberace was an excellent pianist who sold his soul. Why all the violins and accompaniments?

I have seen musicians who will take a solo piece and add other instruments making an orchestral work out of it.

Yeah, to cover up their own bullshit bad playing or to cater to morons. It's not possible to underestimate the taste of the general public.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Yeah, to cover up their own bullshit bad playing or to cater to morons. It's not possible to underestimate the taste of the general public.

Just curious, what is your opinion of Andre Rieu?

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Yeah, to cover up their own bullshit bad playing or to cater to morons. It's not possible to underestimate the taste of the general public.

Just curious, what is your opinion of Andre Rieu?

You mean that guy who makes Liberace look subdued and tasteful? I'm not a fan of schmaltz over substance. I don't need fountains, gold carriages, fake snow and an old lady's wet dream to enjoy music. I really don't think music is so 'inaccessible' that people are forced to go to this kind of extreme. How is Barenboim's 'Moonlight' less 'accessible' than Clayderman's? Those people are there for the spectacle--the actual music is secondary (and second rate).

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Yeah, to cover up their own bullshit bad playing or to cater to morons. It's not possible to underestimate the taste of the general public.

Just curious, what is your opinion of Andre Rieu?

You mean that guy who makes Liberace look subdued and tasteful? I'm not a fan of schmaltz over substance. I don't need fountains, gold carriages, fake snow and an old lady's wet dream to enjoy music. I really don't think music is so 'inaccessible' that people are forced to go to this kind of extreme. How is Barenboim's 'Moonlight' less 'accessible' than Clayderman's? Those people are there for the spectacle--the actual music is secondary (and second rate).

I wouldn't go quite that far, but I do agree that he isn't more than a mediocre Violinist who has assembled an orchestra that plays the popular and familiar to an uneducated audience. Though I do appreciate some of his renditions of the familiar and popular pieces, even if they are a bit abreviated, and I will state again that he introduces people to works that they might not have listened to before. Some of us are more sophisticated than others, but that doesn't mean that the others should be denied the popular access to the better that is available. I once worked with a person who refused to listen to a recording that was less than perfect, yet I had a recording of "Peter and the Wolf" that was taken of an old 78 vinyl disc, and the sound was much less than even good, but I still listened to it.

FYI, right now I'm waiting for the weather to change and the humidity to drop just a little. I tried to tune my piano, which was running a bit sharp, and found that the pin block was a bit tight and I couldn't bring the strings into proper tune. I'm hoping that when the pin block dries out a little, the tuning pins will be a bit easier to get just right. Instead of moving smoothly, the pins tended to pop from one position to another, and never just right.

thedoc wrote:
I wouldn't go quite that far, but I do agree that he isn't more than a mediocre Violinist who has assembled an orchestra that plays the popular and familiar to an uneducated audience. Though I do appreciate some of his renditions of the familiar and popular pieces, even if they are a bit abreviated, and I will state again that he introduces people to works that they might not have listened to before. Some of us are more sophisticated than others, but that doesn't mean that the others should be denied the popular access to the better that is available. I once worked with a person who refused to listen to a recording that was less than perfect, yet I had a recording of "Peter and the Wolf" that was taken of an old 78 vinyl disc, and the sound was much less than even good, but I still listened to it.

FYI, right now I'm waiting for the weather to change and the humidity to drop just a little. I tried to tune my piano, which was running a bit sharp, and found that the pin block was a bit tight and I couldn't bring the strings into proper tune. I'm hoping that when the pin block dries out a little, the tuning pins will be a bit easier to get just right. Instead of moving smoothly, the pins tended to pop from one position to another, and never just right.

You can tune a piano? That's pretty cool. I have a beautiful set of tuning tools, but I haven't quite been able to bring myself to give it a go.