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I am sorry for the confusion I was just trying to explain the many infinite things there are, such as the crystal how it is the only natural transparency of earth and through its inner being we are able to see their is pure inner being , or inner essence the sphere of reflection . Here one enters the whole Godly like relation between inner and outer pervade the whole pure self.

Crystal in its perfect homogeneity clear inner individualization is transparency and the medium for sunlight.
A phenomenon like magnetism is the process that links together all the indifferent parts of earth in same silent formative process that is everywhere at work.

Whereas electricity makes it’s appearance in thunderstorms, lightening and northern lights. Magnetism is the super-sensible sphere and if any one thinks that reason is not in life, they can be shown by magnetism. What is active in magnetism is not material, but pure immateriality. Magnetism, what can a highly astonishing phenomenon I put a bit of unmagnified iron small piece near a magnetized small piece of iron I can observe a motion; I can see at one end of each small piece of iron attracts itself to the north pole of the magnet, while the other end of the small piece of iron repels. The north pole repels and the south pole attracts, the direction of the north derives its path from the sun and the south pole moves toward the north of the earth. Iron fillings attract themselves to a magnet up to its midpoint where attraction and repulsion disappear.

Crystals, prove they do not only have an outer form, but an inner divided fragments laying in mutual indifference. For instance the points of the crystal can be broken off and reveal its character, even in a shattering mass.

The process of the crystal takes place in layers is systematically enclosed in an internally differentiated unity. For example, a crystal the inner surface is very smooth but outwardly has edges and angles some rough and some orderly released from the influence of gravity, grows, and grows upward a quiescent form that grows upward an amazing characteristics on one hand the outermost point of the body are points, on the other hand inner fluidity moves, the same as magnetism inanimate impulse.

Thanks for the crystal clarity and magnetic engagement of your musings. Its good to ponder the inorganic ways of growth and attraction. Life allows no form to perfect absolutely; as soon as the possibility of perfection manifests, lateral shoots emerge to create new forms.

A theoretical process to determine logically a way of distinguishing our relationship with the outside world is needed. Freethinking is pure knowledge and because pure knowledge is the ultimate absolute reason there can be nothing so remote that we cannot reason.

Sunspots for example are elliptical, causes a transcending upward motion, whereas moon motion is contingent upon something other. The mysterious moon has no middle no one knows where moon begins or ends, it is simply a regular reoccurring succession striving to unit with the sea causes the ebb and flow of the tides.

The whole heaven, all creation would collapse or stand still, and never again be without knowledge.

The best way I can persuade anyone this is not by rhetoric, nor the best poetic embellishments but through knowledge that contributes to the advancement of science. It is only in modern times philosophy has been separated from science.

Philosophy happens to be of a nature somewhat more divine than any other learning. There is a perfection which all philosophy ought to reach, and which all philosophers ought also to attain, and not to fall short of not till then will the pursuit of knowledge have any value or profit .

Come borrow all the best in knowledge and even correct the errors. List everything, which gives objectivity to the rules of nature and exercise reason, if not perfectly, at least as well as in mind.

Look at Pythagoras truly a rare genius and contemporary of Thales. He called philosophy "the love of knowledge and truth." when society has worked its way out of apathy and insensitiveness the love of truth and knowledge makes an appearance.

Knowledge and truth assures us that what we do is real or true. Feeling, seeing, hearing, or any other senses cannot ever assure us of anything, knowledge and truth light up right from error.

The mind is the power and capacity of knowing. Philosophy is the pathway of knowledge that exists in every mind has the power and capacity of being reawakened.

Socrates believed love of knowledge and truth is lodged in the philosopher’s heart as the dearest friend they cannot refuse it anything, even with arguments of shame and even reason.

Philosophy as dearest friend can any thing present any greater blessing than this? They appear to be caught up in some sort of infectious for no reason beholding me, but there they cease from pain, and when away,they long for its friendship.


They desired from their earliest youth truth and knowledge That is the sign which distinguish the true philosopher whether they are just and gentle, or rude and unsociable.

Another thing philosophers love to learn for no one will love that which gives them pain after much hard work makes little progress.


Therefore, philosophers must have a good memory and a gracious mind, which moves instinctively toward true being.

Some people think they can purge away Justice and not an ounce of shame, they seem to fancy themselves rulers over anyone and even over god who is the maker of all things. The truth of all things is time. What makes time is the continuously unfolding of material things. Our present standpoint has a incredible right because as soon as I pronounce the word present time dissolves, flows away and passes over into another moment yet present time is eternal does not pass away nor does it rest.

Space is not property of time if it were would be like a box and even when empty maintains a particular thing but space is not a property of time it is freely spreading and offers no resistence.

Therefore space cannot be pointed out only geometrically because space contains nothing extends in every direction, absolute spreading not endowed or connected to any thing or any condition.

To measure space the whole boundlessness cannot be done because space has no relative point, no line or plane they are only mathematical or geometric boundaries.Time and space are different, space into time and time into space. The negativity of space is time and the positive of time is space they are a unity called matter; space and time is if filled with matter. Therefore space and time are separate opposed moments held together in unity and this proclaims our ground and truth. Unfortunately viewed as a mere transition of one into another, a simple movement, but each movement is separate.

Reason is spirit that pervades and permeates all aspects of being belongs to each individual is a spirit in its real truth when consciousness and self-consciousness have come to terms.

Tyranny it has two principles, they are irrational unnecessary pleasures and meager insatiable desires.

A shameful sort of people, it comes from their parents cheapness and meanness it causes them to live a perfectly lawless life, perfectly free and lords over the idle and greedy, them, a sort of monstrous winged parasite.

Love is the lord of their house and every day and every night the demands grows more like the baby birds crowding in the nest crying aloud for food.

Justice can hardly be distinguished, broken off crushed, and damaged by huge waves, covered over with seaweed and shells and stones, undistinguished like a ogre.

Tyranny happens to good people too, it gets up walks about when good is asleep and without any shame; and there is no conceivable foolishness tyrants may not be guilty of, they are subjected to greediness instead of good.

Exposure is the cure! Tyranny needs to be approached so that the gentler element is freed; and temperance, justice, and wisdom the most perfect harmony of body and mind reappears.

Barbara, are you watching over my shoulder ? We can't possibly be on the same wave-length, can we ?

Here is something I've been repeatedly listening to today :

Vivi, Tiranno !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87r-NU7S ... re=related

'ave a heart, luv, an' save the tyrant, he cannae help it ?!

M.

M,

I very much enjoyed the music.

Yes the tyrant is not intentionally in error. Blame it on luxury and softness; unable to control the gadfly within them courts and flatters them.
 
If tyrants get away with injustice or intemperance it only makes them worse even though they make money or have power. If injustice is not detected, the tyrant only gets worse;

They are dazzled by the foolish applause of the world, heaping up riches that does them infinite harm.  Self-importance is in opposition to truth.



Come grasp the whole truth and you will then have no problem in  knowing tyrant believes injustice is more profitable than justice.

Justice is the most complete mastery over the entire human being. justice the excellence of the mind by which happiness is attained. Justice and happiness is thus to be inseparable. Then talent falls on the side of justice.
 
Justice is like art is to happiness, a means to an end; both art and justice is naturally described under the image of morals even though wrapped up in a mysterious form is equivalent to universal order or well being.

Tyrants in order to gain their end they need followers and flatters but they soon discard them when they have no longer any need friendship is unknown to them. their pleasures subjected to greediness are mere shadows of pleasure, mixed with pain.

Justice is the only virtue which remains in a society when the other virtues, temperance, courage and knowledge have disappeared. Justice extends and runs through all the notes of the scale, and produces back harmony in original form, and does the utmost to maintain intact.
BB 

Tyrants are truly enslaved because they desire the unattainable are miserable, and make everybody around them miserable. Then philosophers run away from tyrants into the region of law, reason and under guidance of wisdom truth in the highest degree attainable inasmuch as we follow truth.

Tyrants are miserable, and make everybody around them miserable.

Socrates believed that until philosophers have the spirit and power and political greatness in one and tyrants are compelled to stand aside, cities will never have rest from their evils.

A true philosopher must from the earliest youth desire truth and knowledge and magnificence of mind. In childhood the philosophy they learn, should be suited to their tender years: the chief and special care should range at will and engage in no serious labor, as we intend them to live happily here. If well educated, and grow into sensible people will easily see their way through all the troubles life disperses out at them,

What makes a person virtuous is justice.

No doubt justice is here: it will take a little struggle to catch sight of it, because we go about looking for what is justice far off in the distance we fail to recognize it.

Justice is fairness, evenhandedness and the only virtue that remains in society when all the other (temperance and courage and knowledge) are gone.
Like hunters look devotedly that justice does not escape don’t go about looking far in a distances for justice when it is in our own hands. It is not disproportionate to any one group but of the greatest happiness of the whole society .

Justice imparts harmony and friendship is the law of human life, the most complete mastery over the entire being. The problem with justice is a path with little light and so perplexing we go about seeking it when it is right here, we fail to recognize it.

With not an ounce of shame tyrants think they can purge away justice fancy they are able to rule over others and even God they can’t even rule themselves. Don’t fear them they are merely filled with trouble, guilt and fight, which are the cause of their ruin. Injustice clearly creates division, hatred and fighting.

Justice more precious than many pieces of gold perfection there is nothing else, is wrapped up in a mysterious form even though it has real meaning. Justice concerns the inner self, it sets in order our inner life, our self-mastery and brings peace with self. Socrates compared inner life to the higher, lower, and middle notes of the scale with harmonious condition.

In a society where people are encourage to do their work in the best way most likely find justice and the whole citizens grow up in a fine order, and will receive happiness which nature assigns to them.

If philosophy could find a society suitable to it for in a society which is suitable to philosophy we will have a larger growth of s champion of society as well as of self.

Unconsciousness is the numbing of self in the sphere of life but here lays a blueprint of which those who desire may behold, and beholding it may set mind in order. But whether such a blue print exists, or ever will exist in reality, is no matter; for philosophers will live after the manner, having nothing to do with any other.

Philosophy entails thinking about things just for the sake of understanding. This was called speculative thinking, which has power of elevating mind to the highest principles of existence opposition, passes out of mere opinion goes over above hypotheses into the intellectual sphere, pure implicit ideal thought.

Philosophy there is no option philosophers are driven towards it like lilies, willows, fig trees have their own particular bug or insect whose nature is restricted to each plant. With philosophy we grew upward in order, and receive happiness that nature assigns.

The noblest of all pursuit is philosophy failing in this are impostors, and have no part or lot in true philosophy.

The true philosopher is always striving after being, that this is our nature, will not rest in appearance but on the dedicated edge not blunted, nor abated only until knowledge of truth has knowledge will philosophy live and grow truly, and then, and not until then, the philosophy will cease from travail.

Rhetoricians only captivates the ear has nothing worthy of knowledge. When they only see philosophy is open to anyone, and its terrain well stocked with fancy titles the cleverest take a leap into it. But even in that situation, philosophy still remains dignified.

Socrates believed disciples of philosophy will be but a small lot: truthful well-educated person, absent of corrupting influences who remains devoted to philosophy. Those are the internal sign given to such a person.

He believed those who belong to this small group have sampled how thoughtful and sacred the possession of philosophy and seen enough of the lunacy of the world.

Philosopher is like a person who has fallen among a mad mob but will not join but still is unable singly to resist the crowd. But if they don't want throw their worthy knowledge away without doing any good they need to hold their peace, and go their own way.

“Like in the storm of snow and sleet storm with driving wind, we philosophers retire under the shelter of a wall; and seeing the rest of people kind full of impiety, we are content, if only we can live our life and be pure from unrighteousness, and depart in peace and good-will with happy hopes.”

The orator who knows truth will steal away the hearts of the hearers, has a piece of good-fortune attributes to the prophets of the Muses who are singing over head may have imparted their inspiration to l art .