racism and being 'WOKE"

[iambiguous]

Do you think that human nature has changed significantly in the last 20 years?

I don't.

What has changed is that there is now a widespread disregard for the truth.

I don't think that is desirable.

Pick one:

1] your truth
2] his truth

And, oh, I don't know, about anything?

[Immanuel Can]

Do you think that human nature has changed significantly in the last 20 years?

I don't.

I agree. What would possibly make somebody think it had?

For that matter, we must ask what makes people believe human nature qua the essential nature of the human animal has changed in the past thousand years? What theory would make that plausible? We would need one, if we held that it had happened...

What has changed is that there is now a widespread disregard for the truth.

I don't think that is desirable.

Indeed so.

[Dubious]

The true messiah in the Age of Desperation hasn't yet arrived. In the meantime we must yield to the many trivial interludes of knowing and expounding as if anyone here were in a position to know anything beyond his own opinion or acceptance of others. All of this superfluous noise and redundant surmising is itself a symptom of retardation which has lost all grasp of what always was and remains fundamental to the world and its so-called ruling intelligence.

[phyllo]

Do you think that human nature has changed significantly in the last 20 years?

I don't.

What has changed is that there is now a widespread disregard for the truth.

I don't think that is desirable.

Pick one:

1] your truth
2] his truth

And, oh, I don't know, about anything?

The problem in a nutshell.

[Alexis Jacobi]

...

This is what you might respond to, not anything else from your over-heated brain!

For revolutionaries, using sexuality as a tool of praxis is one of their most notable undertakings. The authority that imposes sexual restraint — the father, the patriarchy, even Platonic philosophical theory — become authorities to undermine and topple. Stimulating sexual desire the means to achieve that end.

Part of Marxist praxis within third-wave feminism involved encouraging women to liberate themselves from “oppressive” restraints. And all of it to undermine the family: the primary oppressive institution.

I am surprised Iambiguous that you reference sources like this and understand so little about how Marxism operates.

Additionally, if anyone has been largely discredited and rendered ridiculous I’d imagine it to be Wilhelm Reich.

If you create a bit of distance between yourself and the IDEAS that are presented, you can then better discuss the ideas.

A cultural commentator (Mike Jones) who writes critically on the theme of sexual liberation:

Unlike the standard version of the sexual revolution, Libido Dominandi [his book] shows how sexual liberation was from its inception a form of control. Those who wished to liberate man from the moral order needed to impose social controls as soon as they succeeded because liberated libido led inevitably to anarchy.

Aldous Huxley wrote in his preface to the 1946 edition of Brave New World that "as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase." This book is about the converse of that statement. It explains how the rhetoric of sexual freedom was used to engineer a system of covert political and social control.

Over the course of the two-hundred-year span covered by this book, the development of technologies of communication, reproduction, and psychic control - including psychotherapy, behaviorism, advertising, sensitivity training, pornography, and plain old blackmail - allowed the Enlightenment and its heirs to turn Augustine's insight on its head and create masters out of men's vices. Libido Dominandi is the story of how that happened.

"Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but, what is worse, as many masters as he has vices." - St. Augustine, City of God

[Alexis Jacobi]

The true messiah in the Age of Desperation hasn't yet arrived. In the meantime we must yield to the many trivial interludes of knowing and expounding as if anyone here were in a position to know anything beyond his own opinion or acceptance of others. All of this superfluous noise and redundant surmising is itself a symptom of retardation which has lost all grasp of what always was and remains fundamental to the world and its so-called ruling intelligence.

Sure sound coherent, and authoritative!

It is obviously wrong though. And just *one more opinion* by someone who says that all opinions are superfluous noise!

(To myself): God, how did I wind up in this place?!?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The true messiah in the Age of Desperation hasn't yet arrived. In the meantime we must yield to the many trivial interludes of knowing and expounding as if anyone here were in a position to know anything beyond his own opinion or acceptance of others. All of this superfluous noise and redundant surmising is itself a symptom of retardation which has lost all grasp of what always was and remains fundamental to the world and its so-called ruling intelligence.

Sure sound coherent, and authoritative!

It is obviously wrong though. And just *one more opinion* by someone who says that all opinions are superfluous noise!

(To myself): God, how did I wind up in this place?!?

Sure sounds a lot more coherent than you ever do. I doubt if anyone has ever accused you of being intelligent or insightful (unless you include your mirror).

[Alexis Jacobi]

The true messiah in the Age of Desperation hasn't yet arrived. In the meantime we must yield to the many trivial interludes of knowing and expounding as if anyone here were in a position to know anything beyond his own opinion or acceptance of others. All of this superfluous noise and redundant surmising is itself a symptom of retardation which has lost all grasp of what always was and remains fundamental to the world and its so-called ruling intelligence.

Sure sound coherent, and authoritative!

It is obviously wrong though. And just *one more opinion* by someone who says that all opinions are superfluous noise!

(To myself): God, how did I wind up in this place?!?

Sure sounds a lot more coherent than you ever do. I doubt if anyone has ever accused you of being intelligent or insightful (unless you include your mirror).

You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, even though you are a total grouch!

My opinion? I encounter many people here who seem to me benighted in their understanding of things. Nearly complete illiterates yet filled with extraordinary sound & fury. People seem to take offense when I say this. But in no way do I intend offense.

At the very least you know where I stand.

May I remind you of your first post?

I'm going to be a conspiracy theorist here I'm convinced there is a world-wide conspiracy to dumb down Western civilization. After viewing my child's last school report, which was completely incomprehensible, I am convinced that this is so. The report was designed to confuse and veil a lack of teaching in all the basics. It was so PC that there was no way of telling if my child was doing well or poorly in any given area. I gave up and threw it in the trash. Most people these days are semi-literate. I wonder why.

[Harbal]

filled with extraordinary sound & fury. People seem to take offense when I say this. But in no way do I intend offense.

Well you'll be pleased to know that I don't take offence when you say it to me; I just see an opportunity.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Note to all Lunatics

I’m available for bickering sessions with spicy insults now and all day tomorrow. I promise to respond in kind. I will be wrapped up all day Friday but don’t hesitate to talk shit. I have openings over the weekend and I promise to get back to you.

Also note: I am now writing (channeling really) a Catechism for the Normal (or those with the will to self-recover). I will make it available at reduced cost for those who make their initial deposit for the Course.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Sure sound coherent, and authoritative!

It is obviously wrong though. And just *one more opinion* by someone who says that all opinions are superfluous noise!

(To myself): God, how did I wind up in this place?!?

Sure sounds a lot more coherent than you ever do. I doubt if anyone has ever accused you of being intelligent or insightful (unless you include your mirror).

You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, even though you are a total grouch!

My opinion? I encounter many people here who seem to me benighted in their understanding of things. Nearly complete illiterates yet filled with extraordinary sound & fury. People seem to take offense when I say this. But in no way do I intend offense.

At the very least you know where I stand.

May I remind you of your first post?

I'm going to be a conspiracy theorist here I'm convinced there is a world-wide conspiracy to dumb down Western civilization. After viewing my child's last school report, which was completely incomprehensible, I am convinced that this is so. The report was designed to confuse and veil a lack of teaching in all the basics. It was so PC that there was no way of telling if my child was doing well or poorly in any given area. I gave up and threw it in the trash. Most people these days are semi-literate. I wonder why.

That's hilarious and rather flattering, since that was written umpteen years ago and my youngest child now has two children Not sure what your point is though. I could just have easily have written that yesterday (or today).

[Dubious]

The true messiah in the Age of Desperation hasn't yet arrived. In the meantime we must yield to the many trivial interludes of knowing and expounding as if anyone here were in a position to know anything beyond his own opinion or acceptance of others. All of this superfluous noise and redundant surmising is itself a symptom of retardation which has lost all grasp of what always was and remains fundamental to the world and its so-called ruling intelligence.

Sure sound coherent, and authoritative!
It is obviously wrong though. And just *one more opinion* by someone who says that all opinions are superfluous noise!

Not so much authoritative than true. Most of the time, truth doesn't have any authority or at best a minuscule amount to give a lie a virtual backbone of integrity!

The long and short of it, what I wrote is a straight line from left to right without the slightest deviation of it being false.

There is obviously no difference, even in consistency, between your counter arguments and those invariably made by IC. Simply proclaim something as obviously wrong and leave it at that being merely another piece of confirmation of what I wrote. If it weren't for the bible acting as a collapsed bridge between the two of you, your commonalities would be a marriage made in heaven.

(To myself): God, how did I wind up in this place?!?

I believe it was the god-driven impulses of IC that first inspired you to join. For a short time, you were bosom-buddies were you not?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Veggie, if I understand you correctly you wish to bicker over the meaning you don’t get?

[Dubious]

If I understand you correctly you wish to bicker over the meaning you don’t get?

Oh, please enlighten me with the meaning I don't get or is this just another meaningless bagatelle to avoid explaining?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Sorry, Old Chum: I was getting clear with Veggie about what we are to bicker over.

What exactly can I help you with?