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I didn't realise that being a smug, annoying dimwit was 'romantic'. In that case you are correct. I'm not.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:14 amNot the romantic type then...?!vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:04 amWhere's the vomit emoji when you need one? Could you be any more nauseating?
There is a cure for smug annoying dimwits everywhere. Projectile vomit them out of your system. There's nothing like a good chucking -up session for ridding one of their own self-manufacturing poison.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:22 am
I didn't realise that being a smug, annoying dimwit was 'romantic'. In that case you are correct. I'm not.
So, what was the reason WHY you WANT to be 'adored', by "others"?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:33 pmAdoration of the male or female form/species has nothing to do with being insecure or self-loathing, what a weird thing to think. How typically assumptive of you, you idiotic twit.
How the heck can a man or a woman ever look at each other and not adore them for who they are, is unthinkable to me. I simply cannot imagine how men and women are not totally WOWed by each other.
I have no intention to own or possess them, but I can very easily adore them, at a distance, if the desire arises in me, which it often does. Sometimes I do get very strong feelings like I want to wrap them up in cotton wool and own them and look after them just like I would with a newborn baby I've just given birth to. But that's just me, the way I feel about the human species.
As a female, when I look at the male of the human species, I just want to adore them. That doesn't mean I want to own them or possess them. I just look at them and think WOW, what a magnificent creature. If by any chance a man comes into my life, I have noticed I barely have any resistence or complaint to them being in my presence, why, because I permit and allow them to be with me, why, because I adore them. But not because I want them to adore me back, I just happen to adore being in the company of men, I adore the opposite sex, that are different to me as a woman. I find men absolutely fascinating and full of mystery and intrigue that arouse me beyond belief, it's something I am not even making happen, this arousal and interest in them just happens spontaneously and naturally, it is never forced. I love to experience all they have to offer, and knowing they are a different and completely unique species. I love to look at them as I love to look at a butterfly or a bluetit on a bird feeder. And I am fairly sure men feel the same about women, but I cannot be absolutely sure about that, but if I was a man, then I would certainly want to adore women and be happy to be in their company sharing what they bring to life as the magnificient unique being they are as well.
No.
I am SUPPOSEDLY 'wrong' ABOUT 'what', EXACTLY?
But I do NOT have this BELIEF AT ALL.
This is what you ACTUALLY WROTE, and SAID:
YET one post earlier to SAY and WRITE more or less the EXACT OPPOSITE to a DIFFERENT 'responder', where you CLAIM:Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:04 amThe romantic-idealist-optimist meter is maxing out here...Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:55 amI have great empathy and deep compassion for men. I adore them totally, I personally think they are worthy of being adored by women as their complementary opposite, and vice versa, women are worthy of being adored by men. I mean what is to stop us bringing each other the most blissful joy and happiness that life can offer, there is nothing to stop us from making this happen between us. Often, we choose not to create this harmony because we are fearful of rejection and of not being good enough, even though we are more than good enough, if only we believe in ourselves to be capable of being the best versions of ourselves any time we choose to do so.
Men and women, are each other, in different form that's all, we make the greatest team, as there is security and saftey in numbers. It's a beautiful cosy relationship, like a soothing warm fire on a cold winters evening, just waiting to happen, if and only when it is really understood that it will and can be absolutely possible for all of us. Sadly, we fail to make it happen, most of our lives.
Where there is conflict or envy or resentment between the two sexes, is when one feels at though one is more superior over the other. In reality both are equally superior magnificent beings. But we do not believe in ourselves to be magnificent so we recoil and retreat to the safety of our solitude and aloneness where we cannot be hurt. Never knowing that we can love each other without ever needing to hurt each other. All we need to do is love the other as we love ourself, and that's not too difficult to do in my personal experience.
Men just want to be adored by women, and women want to be adored by men, that's all. And who can blame them for wanting that, there are two of us just waiting for the fireworks to ignite in each other, and we choose to ignore it most of the time. It's like walking into a candy store full of sweets and then just walking out again without ever desiring to eat the sweets.
If we cannot do this for each other, when we are more than capable of giving each other constant states of pleasure and enjoyment,then it's just going to be a sad and pityful world,where men then resort to doing something about their longing to be adored by women, in wanting to become like the woman himself, and the only way he can obtain the closeness to a woman is by becoming one himself, this is what I think is going on in our society today, ok I could be wrong, but this is what I think, not that I am right..and that works for women too, they become butch and masculine, or even lesbian in order to obtain their desire to be like men, and to adore the man that is in them, even though they be woman. Same goes for homosexual males, they are just desiring to be close to both their male and female aspects of themselves. We need each other, and yet spend most of our lives repulsing and repelling each other further and further apart from our ultimate dream which is to just get along in perfect harmony and bliss.
I might not have explained this properly or as I intended, but this is just my personal opinion, I understand it's just my way of looking at the nature of men and woman, doesn't mean it's right or true, for everyone, I know that.
The "problem" is that people reject one-another, for all sorts of reasons. Individuals are incompatible with some types. And some persons are so anti-social, rotten, cruel, deplorable, that everybody hates them, and they hate everybody. There is no "one-size-fits-all" solution to male-female compatibility, let alone human compatibility.
'Extinction' of 'what', EXACTLY?
Of 'what', EXACTLY?
YOUR CLAIMS here "wizard22" are just MORE ABSURD, MORE DISTORTED, and MORE TWISTED.
TL,DRAge wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:44 amblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
I do not want to be adored by others. I want to adore others. Not be adored by them. I adore men and women, and maybe, I'm not certain, but other men and women want to adore each other as well, but I cannot know if they want to for sure,I can only know that I want to adore them.
As a fully fledged sexual adult human being, I adore all men. Why, because men are adorable, just like butterflies and kittens, and bluetits on birdfeeders, and that's my personal opinion, I just happen to adore my own species, both men and women, but that doesn't imply I want to fuck them or possess them or crave their attention, or want them to adore me.
For how long?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 amSpeak for yourself, but personally, I'm not in the slightest bit romantic, not interested in idealisms, not interested in optimisms, I don't even like the idea of romance, it's just a cringe worthy idea to me. Urgh!
I just like what I see, and see what I like, I know exactly what I want and don't want in life. I have zero interest in small talk, don't respond to fake wooing or seduction techniques... For me, physical and sexual attraction is there instantly or it is not, and that's all I need to listen to. I just know how my own feelings work, and so far they have never let me down. I know who is right for me and who isn't. I instantly know I'm going to have a good time with a certain type of the opposite sex.
BUT 'you' ADORE 'men' right?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am There is no need for fancy fake frills or flowers or fumbling chat-up small talk, just instant spontaneous natural thrill for me, when it's there naturally without pretence or force.
I agree, I personally wouldn't dream of jumping into bed with just anyone, I would have to like them a very very very lot first.
I agree.
Have you SAID absolutely ANY 'thing' AT ALL previously here, in this forum, which could have been construed as something like; you live alone, and that you like it that way?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 amI've absolutely no idea what you are talking about here.
How do you know Harbal has ended up like what you have described here, have you actually met him in real life? do you know him that well?
I have a partner, and I must say, he has completed me as a woman, he is my complementary opposite. I absolutely adore him to death. I live in a constant state of awe and wonder every second of the day just knowing him and being intimate with him, and I will die a very happy fullfilled woman thanks to knowing him, and sharing my life with him.
How long have 'you' known 'this man'?
So, what is the reason you WISH you were NOT born, EXACTLY?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am I might never have found him, who knows how these chance meetings occur, but I am so ecstatic I did find him. Life for me was all about being partnered with someone like him, and I am so thankful every day that my life was able to turn out exactly the way I wanted it to.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am I have a partner, and I must say, he has completed me as a woman, he is my complementary opposite. I absolutely adore him to death. I live in a constant state of awe and wonder every second of the day just knowing him and being intimate with him, and I will die a very happy fullfilled woman thanks to knowing him, and sharing my life with him.
Yes, I have said that, I do indeed live alone, and I like it that way.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am I might never have found him, who knows how these chance meetings occur, but I am so ecstatic I did find him. Life for me was all about being partnered with someone like him, and I am so thankful every day that my life was able to turn out exactly the way I wanted it to.
Because sometimes I hate being alive.
I would very much like to have never existed, this is true, but since I do exist there is nothing I can do about that now. I still have thoughts about how it would have been better to have not existed, but that does not in any way change the life I am having right now which is being lucky enough to be sharing a life with the most perfect partner for me, one I am very much in love with, and that's just an adorable feeling, in my opinion.
Here we have the TYPICAL RESPONSE, back in the days when this was being written, from one who was CAUGHT OUT, and in NO WAY could COUNTER NOR REFUTE the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE PROOF that was PROVIDED.Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:55 amTL,DRAge wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:44 amblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
WHAT DOES THE 'it' WORD EVEN REFER TO, EXACTLY?
I am STILL WAITING TO LEARN WHAT YOUR 'it' is even REFERENCING here.
'It' seems to MEAN and REFER to a FEW 'things' TO you.
But WHEN, and IF, you EVER DO CLARIFY what the 'it' words are REFERRING TO, EXACTLY, then WE WILL UNDERSTAND YOUR sentences here BETTER. BUT, WE WILL STILL WAIT to SEE if 'you' could even JUST BEGIN to START EXPLAINING here.
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am
Speak for yourself, but personally, I'm not in the slightest bit romantic, not interested in idealisms, not interested in optimisms, I don't even like the idea of romance, it's just a cringe worthy idea to me. Urgh!
I just like what I see, and see what I like, I know exactly what I want and don't want in life. I have zero interest in small talk, don't respond to fake wooing or seduction techniques... For me, physical and sexual attraction is there instantly or it is not, and that's all I need to listen to. I just know how my own feelings work, and so far they have never let me down. I know who is right for me and who isn't. I instantly know I'm going to have a good time with a certain type of the opposite sex.
What do you mean for how long?
Okay.
I KNOW you SAID 'this' BEFORE. I ASKED you ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION regarding this ALSO, by the way.
Okay.
Okay. There would be a few many people in Life who would appreciate KNOWING that 'you' do ADORE 'them'.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:58 amAs a fully fledged sexual adult human being, I adore all men. Why, because men are adorable, just like butterflies and kittens, and bluetits on birdfeeders, and that's my personal opinion, I just happen to adore my own species, both men and women, but that doesn't imply I want to fuck them or possess them or crave their attention, or want them to adore me.
Okay.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:10 pmDontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am I have a partner, and I must say, he has completed me as a woman, he is my complementary opposite. I absolutely adore him to death. I live in a constant state of awe and wonder every second of the day just knowing him and being intimate with him, and I will die a very happy fullfilled woman thanks to knowing him, and sharing my life with him.Yes, I have said that, I do indeed live alone, and I like it that way.
For ANY particular reason?Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:10 pmDontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am I might never have found him, who knows how these chance meetings occur, but I am so ecstatic I did find him. Life for me was all about being partnered with someone like him, and I am so thankful every day that my life was able to turn out exactly the way I wanted it to.Because sometimes I hate being alive.
Okay, but on first glance 'these words of yours' appear to COMPLETELY CONTRADICT 'your other words' about;
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:10 pm I still have thoughts about how it would have been better to have not existed, but that does not in any way change the life I am having right now which is being lucky enough to be sharing a life with the most perfect partner for me, one I am very much in love with, and that's just an adorable feeling, in my opinion.
For a 'length of duration'.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:13 pmDontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 8:51 am
Speak for yourself, but personally, I'm not in the slightest bit romantic, not interested in idealisms, not interested in optimisms, I don't even like the idea of romance, it's just a cringe worthy idea to me. Urgh!
I just like what I see, and see what I like, I know exactly what I want and don't want in life. I have zero interest in small talk, don't respond to fake wooing or seduction techniques... For me, physical and sexual attraction is there instantly or it is not, and that's all I need to listen to. I just know how my own feelings work, and so far they have never let me down. I know who is right for me and who isn't. I instantly know I'm going to have a good time with a certain type of the opposite sex.What do you mean for how long?
You SAID that 'you' KNOW HOW your OWN 'feelings' work, and that SO FAR 'they' have NEVER let 'you' down. BUT, considering you had said that you LIVED ALONE, previously, I took 'this' to mean that you did NOT have a so-called 'partner' ANYMORE, (but you have CLARIFIED this now anyway), anyhow, by CLAIMING that you OWN 'feelings' had NEVER let you down, SO FAR, to me implied that the FIRST guy you saw, and 'felt' this one IS 'the one' meant that you were STILL WITH 'that one'. Which you may well STILL be, now that you have CLARIFIED that you do ACTUALLY STILL have a 'partner'.
Why not based on their preferences?
I remember my mother going down to the shops two or three times a week and bringing back meat protein. She only did it for fifty years or so, though.It means that men have gone hunting and brought in meat-protein for tens of thousands of years.
Women do seem to be better at that sort of thing. My wife always used to select the paint colour when we decorated; God knows what the house would have looked like had it been left to me.It means that women select which male genes pass into a new generation.
