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attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pm Thanks for such insight to point out that I may re analyse my previous considerations re something and change my mind about, Wow, you really are amazing lacewing.

Thanks. It just doesn't seem like you're considering that when you claim 'what is' and that other people are stupid for not seeing 'it'.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pmPrecisely, what am I "glorifying"?

Whatever it is you think. It's always something.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pm One can lead a group of humans to water but..

Lacewing wrote: Do you think that human beings cannot see truth from all different angles with or without any particular belief system?

Y would U insinuate such a thing?

Insinuate what? I asked you a simple question in response to your typical "I know what other people don't" attitude.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmI think 'humans' generally are daft, maybe that will help your attempt here at making me look like a twat.

Hey, that comes across on its own (without any help from me), and I'm simply asking you about it. Why would you be so intoxicated with what you think when you can see that your thoughts change? Why wouldn't you consider that there are many ways to look upon truth? You of all people... who lives and thinks on the fringes of reality... cannot fathom that there is more to truth than someone's personal reality of a god? Sometimes you seem to consider other possibilities, and then sometimes you seem to insist that anyone who doesn't 'know' god as you do is lost. Why can't one person's reality include a god, and another person's reality NOT include a god, and yet both people are divine?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmI never heard Age ever state anything about his own consideration re anything...more just attacking others for their claims in a ridiculous manner...

His attacks are based on anything that doesn't align with his viewpoint which he claims is ultimate truth. He doesn't seem to understand that there's a lot he doesn't understand about other people and what they're saying. He is arguing with his own false conclusions.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmbut yes, Lacewing, I see how I am just like Age

No, you are not just like him! But when you claim what is ultimately true and that people don't see it, you sound like him.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:49 pmHow might the discussion/beliefs/claims change if we were to consider that we're all divine beings on divine paths?

What happened? Did you have an abortion and can't deal with what may be the consequences re divinity?

What a weird response. No, I've never had an abortion. Why don't you try to answer my question with some clarity? Can you even consider such a thing or are you too intoxicated with thinking everyone except you is daft?

..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

A soul is that which Count Vladislaus Dracula doesn't possess.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:10 pm coming from the one who makes the CLAIM that 'it' KNOWS what the ultimate truth is.

Are you talking about yourself or are you now claiming I do that? The fact that I DON'T think there is an ultimate truth has always been the biggest difference between us... which you've repeatedly insisted I was wrong about. Are you now projecting that onto me and changing your viewpoint?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:52 am ..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:52 am ..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

What is it with you? I ignore your posts but you appear to have some insatiable thirst for annoying me..

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:19 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:52 am ..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

What is it with you? I ignore your posts but you appear to have some insatiable thirst for annoying me..

I'm just commenting on ideas that don't add up... and I'm explaining why. I'm sorry that annoys you. You seem to criticize other people for having no interest in exploring what you say... yet you're doing the same thing.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:52 am ..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

This here is MORE PROOF of DISTORTED ASSUMING. Why would you PRESUME such a STUPID and OBVIOUSLY Wrong thing as this?

What I have CLAIMED here, unlike 'you', "lacewing", can be backed up and supported with ACTUAL PROOF. That is; IF ANY one was Truly INTERESTED in CHALLENGING or QUESTIONING me.

By the way, I would hope you are NOT BOTHERED to read what I wrote there, or anywhere else, considering you, supposedly, put me on your ignore list anyway. Which is a SURE SIGN of just how much LACK OF INTEREST 'you' really have in other views, besides your OWN.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pm Thanks for such insight to point out that I may re analyse my previous considerations re something and change my mind about, Wow, you really are amazing lacewing.

Thanks. It just doesn't seem like you're considering that when you claim 'what is' and that other people are stupid for not seeing 'it'.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:26 pmPrecisely, what am I "glorifying"?

Whatever it is you think. It's always something.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pm One can lead a group of humans to water but..

Lacewing wrote: Do you think that human beings cannot see truth from all different angles with or without any particular belief system?

Y would U insinuate such a thing?

Insinuate what? I asked you a simple question in response to your typical "I know what other people don't" attitude.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmI think 'humans' generally are daft, maybe that will help your attempt here at making me look like a twat.

Hey, that comes across on its own (without any help from me), and I'm simply asking you about it. Why would you be so intoxicated with what you think when you can see that your thoughts change? Why wouldn't you consider that there are many ways to look upon truth? You of all people... who lives and thinks on the fringes of reality... cannot fathom that there is more to truth than someone's personal reality of a god?

Why can 'you', "lacewing", NOT fathom that there is more to 'your truth' about God?

'you' have NOT YET NOTICED that the very 'thing' that you keep ACCUSING "others" of doing here IS EXACTLY what 'you' DO. Which is MORE PROJECTION, from 'you''.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am Sometimes you seem to consider other possibilities, and then sometimes you seem to insist that anyone who doesn't 'know' god as you do is lost. Why can't one person's reality include a god, and another person's reality NOT include a god, and yet both people are divine?

WHY do 'you' KEEP INSISTING that 'you', people, are DIVINE, WITHOUT LOOKING nor BEING OPEN to the ACTUAL Wrong that 'you' so-called 'divine people' DO?

WHY do 'you' KEEP LOOKING AT "others" and what 'they' DO but do NOT LOOK AT the Fact that 'you' are DOING the EXACT SAME 'thing/s' "lacewing"?

'you' ARE DOING EXACTLY what 'you' ACCUSE "others" of DOING here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmI never heard Age ever state anything about his own consideration re anything...more just attacking others for their claims in a ridiculous manner...

His attacks are based on anything that doesn't align with his viewpoint which he claims is ultimate truth.

LOL SHOW and POINT OUT ONCE where I have, ALLEGEDLY, CLAIMED that my viewpoint is the 'ultimate truth'.

We now WAIT.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am He doesn't seem to understand that there's a lot he doesn't understand about other people and what they're saying.

We will just have to WAIT to SEE what the ACTUAL Truth IS here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am He is arguing with his own false conclusions.

And you KEEP providing YOUR OWN False conclusions, as though they ARE the ULTIMATE TRUTH.

Also, I will, ONCE AGAIN, ask you to PROVIDE ACTUAL PROOF for YOUR CLAIM here. But, going on EVERY other ATTEMPT I have made, we WILL be WAITING a VERY LONG TIME for you.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pmbut yes, Lacewing, I see how I am just like Age

No, you are not just like him! But when you claim what is ultimately true and that people don't see it, you sound like him.

LOL "lacewing". This coming from the one who KEEPS INSISTING and CLAIMING that they KNOW the ULTIMATE TRUTH, and that "others" can NOT see 'it'.

REMEMBER it is 'you', "lacewing", who KEEPS ASKING, WHY can "others" NOT see that there IS MORE to their OWN VIEW/S?

you ask this as though this is the ULTIMATE TRUTH, and that "others" have NOT YET SEEN this.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:50 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:09 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:49 pmHow might the discussion/beliefs/claims change if we were to consider that we're all divine beings on divine paths?

What happened? Did you have an abortion and can't deal with what may be the consequences re divinity?

What a weird response. No, I've never had an abortion. Why don't you try to answer my question with some clarity? Can you even consider such a thing or are you too intoxicated with thinking everyone except you is daft?

PROJECTION, in the EXTREME.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am

Age wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:10 pm coming from the one who makes the CLAIM that 'it' KNOWS what the ultimate truth is.

Are you talking about yourself or are you now claiming I do that?

Am I on your ignore list, or NOT?

And, LOL, I have been CLAIMING, for a long time now, that that is EXACTLY what you do.

If you READ the ACTUAL WORDS that I had been writing, then you would have ALREADY NOTICED just how OBVIOUS this is.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am The fact that I DON'T think there is an ultimate truth has always been the biggest difference between us...

LOL "lacewing" this is EXACTLY one of the reasons WHY 'I' have been, REPEATEDLY INFORMING 'you' that 'you' are MISUNDERSTANDING me.

Also, just 'thinking' that there is NOT some 'thing' does NOT override what you 'believe' is true. See, part of the way the brain works is it gets OVERRIDDEN by BELIEFS, through the 'belief-system', and, as I have been continually POINTING OUT and SHOWING, what people BELIEVE can be SEEN through 'their words' VERY CLEARLY.

See, although you may well 'think' there is NO 'ultimate truth' you KEEP EXPRESSING what you BELIEVE is, ultimately, the ULTIMATE TRUTH.

And, as I have ALREADY SHOWN and PROVED IRREFUTABLY True, some of what you EXPRESS is a complete and utter CONTRADICTION. Especially in regards to YOUR VIEW on 'ultimate truth'.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am which you've repeatedly insisted I was wrong about.

BECAUSE you ARE Wrong about 'it' "lacewing".

And, I did NOT even have to do ANY thing to SHOW and PROVE the Wrongness of YOUR CLAIM here, as it is your OWN WORDS that SHOW and PROVE, IRREFUTABLY I will add, just how Wrong, False, AND Incorrect your OWN VIEW and CLAIM IS here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am Are you now projecting that onto me and changing your viewpoint?

LOL if you ONLY KNEW what has been ACTUALLY HAPPENING and OCCURRING here "lacewing".

I STAND by what I have SAID and CLAIMED here, like I ALWAYS HAVE.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:26 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:19 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am
You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

What is it with you? I ignore your posts but you appear to have some insatiable thirst for annoying me..

I'm just commenting on ideas that don't add up... and I'm explaining why.

Sod it. Ok, what ideas do I have that 'don't add up'?

Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:52 am ..bla bla bla (i couldn't even be bothered to read that)

You're not interested in what you can't make-up and claim as the truth. Right!

This here is MORE PROOF of DISTORTED ASSUMING. Why would you PRESUME such a STUPID and OBVIOUSLY Wrong thing as this?

I was talking to attofishpi and this is what he has shown. Fuck off, Age.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 am What I have CLAIMED here, unlike 'you', "lacewing", can be backed up and supported with ACTUAL PROOF. That is; IF ANY one was Truly INTERESTED in CHALLENGING or QUESTIONING me.

You haven't provided any actual proof of anything. Fuck off.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:36 amBy the way, I would hope you are NOT BOTHERED to read what I wrote there, or anywhere else, considering you, supposedly, put me on your ignore list anyway.

Most people here ignore you. From time to time any of us may check in on one of your noisy, delusional responses to see if you have learned anything. It's not that surprising for people to do -- but you make a big deal out of it like you do with everything. You are a whining child who picks apart every fucking word that people write because you misunderstand things in the larger context. You've been told this over and over by many people here, yet you seem incapable of seeing beyond those distortions and delusions which you project onto everyone. It's tiresome and boring to interact with. You can't even discuss a topic most of the time because you're busy telling everyone else how wrong they are about everything they think and say. You don't fucking KNOW!

It's unfortunate that the moderators don't stop you (which is probably why you chose this forum) creating 14,000+ posts that are full of your excessive blame, ruining threads and bringing discussion to a standstill because people leave to get away from all of your noise. It's like you have no clue about BALANCE. We're all doing a dance here and we don't need your excessive and manic view being imposed to the extreme that you are incapable of moderating.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:00 am Ok, what ideas do I have that 'don't add up'?

I told you in my posts. You don't want to hear or consider that. Fine.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:00 am Ok, what ideas do I have that 'don't add up'?

I told you in my posts. You don't want to hear or consider that. Fine.

What posts are you actually addressing my IDEAS?

Maybe we can start fresh, pick one of my 'ideas' and let's have a crack.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:20 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:16 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:00 am Ok, what ideas do I have that 'don't add up'?

I told you in my posts. You don't want to hear or consider that. Fine.

What posts are you actually addressing my IDEAS?

Maybe we can start fresh, pick one of my 'ideas' and let's have a crack.

So now you want me to make more of an effort, even though you completely dismissed me before? Fuck off.