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Don't tell AV. She'll have a fit.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 pm I'm a deist. My god has issued no marching orders, so there's nuthin' for me to obey, and no deific punishment to fear.
There, some tobacco for you to put in your pipe.
She can seize up as she likes: I don't care ('oh, henry, the death fear has you by the testicles!')Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 pmDon't tell AV. She'll have a fit.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 pm I'm a deist. My god has issued no marching orders, so there's nuthin' for me to obey, and no deific punishment to fear.
There, some tobacco for you to put in your pipe.
AV believes and posts a lot of things that most people don't really think about.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 pmDon't tell AV. She'll have a fit.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 pm I'm a deist. My god has issued no marching orders, so there's nuthin' for me to obey, and no deific punishment to fear.
There, some tobacco for you to put in your pipe.
There are good reasons why they "don't really think" about them. She's wrong...obviously, verifiably, repeatedly, wrong by personal account and by statistics, wrong in every reasonable metric, really -- but disinclined to recognize it. And on the issue of fear being the primary motive, she obviously is so possessed by her belief that she can't be talked out of it with any facts at all.BardoXV wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:48 pmAV believes and posts a lot of things that most people don't really think about.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 pmDon't tell AV. She'll have a fit.henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:53 pm I'm a deist. My god has issued no marching orders, so there's nuthin' for me to obey, and no deific punishment to fear.
There, some tobacco for you to put in your pipe.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:58 pmJustintruth wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:34 pm A mind will be eliminated by destroying your brain or otherwise causing it not to function.Indeed.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:58 pm A brain will be a lump of meat, without a mind. It will not function either.
------but your Religion lacks interest/comentary on non-humans.
do cats/dogs/worms with brains.......have minds (or spirits/souls).
they lack understanding in this life to accept your Christ for Salvation. so their fate is??????????????? (this is where your Faith lacks perspective, and Hinduism/Buddism may not (noting animal life/souls).
they lack a soul? they are just moving plants?
asking you as an Atheist to a christian.
I have no idea what the constitution of animals is, save that they are distinct from human beings, not being the subject of a separate creative act, and are not said to be at all in "the image of God." There is no talk of "animal sin" or of "animal salvation." There's never any mention of animals having either "soul" or "spirit." However, there is Biblical language about the larger creation, the whole Earth, around human beings being "redeemed" when human beings are.
Descartes who believed minds were separate things from brains also believed animals other than men lacked minds and were automata. This belief although it accorded with Christianity was responsible for men having no guilt about cruelty to animals.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:41 amI have no idea what the constitution of animals is, save that they are distinct from human beings, not being the subject of a separate creative act, and are not said to be at all in "the image of God." There is no talk of "animal sin" or of "animal salvation." There's never any mention of animals having either "soul" or "spirit." However, there is Biblical language about the larger creation, the whole Earth, around human beings being "redeemed" when human beings are.
What does that entail? I have no precise way of knowing, save that it's good.
If human beings are not animals, then what are they?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:41 amI have no idea what the constitution of animals is, save that they are distinct from human beings, not being the subject of a separate creative act, and are not said to be at all in "the image of God." There is no talk of "animal sin" or of "animal salvation." There's never any mention of animals having either "soul" or "spirit." However, there is Biblical language about the larger creation, the whole Earth, around human beings being "redeemed" when human beings are.
What does that entail? I have no precise way of knowing, save that it's good.
Well humankind at the moment when this is written has OBVIOUSLY failed in their stewardship duties.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:47 amNo, it did not. Christianity holds that the natural world does not belong to man, but is held in stewardship by mankind, and mankind is accountable for managing it well or abusing it. Genesis 1.