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Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:07 am

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:32 am I defy you to find one example of me attacking a person's character.

You have made MANY false accusations against me and my character over the years, Nick... and I've always pointed them out to you.

Could you point out to me one such incident that occurred here at PhiNow, Lacewing? I'd like to judge it for myself. It may be that you were mistaken.

mickthinks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:04 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:07 am

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:32 am I defy you to find one example of me attacking a person's character.

You have made MANY false accusations against me and my character over the years, Nick... and I've always pointed them out to you.

Could you point out to me one such incident that occurred here at PhiNow, Lacewing? I'd like to judge it for myself. It may be that you were mistaken.

Who the fuck do you think you are to assess whether I've been falsely accused? I've already clearly pointed out some in this thread -- find them for yourself. Nick has done this for years. I do not need to show YOU anything, and I don't care what your judgment is.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:27 amRegardless if you re referring to Plato, St. Augustine, or Descartes, The human essence has the ability to remember what always was.

So what is this thing that "always was" which the above, and presumably "Jesus, Socrates, Simone Weil, Jacob Needleman, Einstein and Basarab Nicolescu" remember?

Nick_A wrote:This is really priceless. I'm the one that has been declared guilty of something even though we con't know what it is. ...

You're the one who claims verbal abuse and 'cyber-bullying'? I'm just saying that your berating of others as being 'spirit killer' and killers and destroyers of others seems to fit the idea of being a bully of others, cyber or otherwise.

This is the epitome of the perversion of progressive logic that lives by the axiom "the ends justify the means."

What on earth is 'progressive logic' when its at home?

Nick_A wrote:Regardless if you re referring to Plato, St. Augustine, or Descartes, The human essence has the ability to remember what always was.

And this would be?

Or is this just more unsubstantiated waffle upon your part.

If the kitchen is too hot for you: get out.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:32 pm If the kitchen is too hot for you: get out.

Quite true. The goal of those who believe the ultimate expression of truth and wisdom or the purpose of philosophy is learned in Plato's cave, seek to chase away traditional philosophy which asserts the source of human meaning and purpose as initiating from above. Such old fashioned philosophy as expressed by those like Plato and Plotinus is intolerable for modern educated Man. It isn't Plato's fault that oxford university didn't exist in those times but why should modern sophisticated man with all its knowledge have to suffer? The kitchen should be made too hot to chase them away so the Great Beast can reign supreme in Plato's cave without those annoyances like Simone Weil who refused to accept her place.

That's all greek to me, Nick.

Plato considered women as equal to men, it´s somewhere in the Republic.

uwot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:23 am

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:27 amRegardless if you re referring to Plato, St. Augustine, or Descartes, The human essence has the ability to remember what always was.

So what is this thing that "always was" which the above, and presumably "Jesus, Socrates, Simone Weil, Jacob Needleman, Einstein and Basarab Nicolescu" remember?

Don't concern yourself with such heavy questions. Here we argue insignificant details. Know your place.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:16 pm

uwot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:23 am

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:27 amRegardless if you re referring to Plato, St. Augustine, or Descartes, The human essence has the ability to remember what always was.

So what is this thing that "always was" which the above, and presumably "Jesus, Socrates, Simone Weil, Jacob Needleman, Einstein and Basarab Nicolescu" remember?

Don't concern yourself with such heavy questions. Here we argue insignificant details. Know your place.

So why did you bring it up?

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:27 amRegardless if you re referring to Plato, St. Augustine, or Descartes, The human essence has the ability to remember what always was.

If it always was, then it's not needed to remember. It's at hand. It is, because it always was/is. If you need to see what always was, just look at it. No memory work needed.

End of discussion of profound ideas.

The conscious efforts towards remembering are at the heart of both the essence of religion and the love of wisdom. Those like -1- and uwot prefer to practice intellectual denial. Fortunately there have been and still are those who strive to experience anamnesis. It is better for all in denial to avoid these questions but I'll post a basic introduction for lurkers who may want to research the idea. This topic is dedicated to the defense of verbal abuse and cyber bullying.

http://peenef2.republika.pl/angielski/h ... nesis.html

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:13 am

mickthinks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:04 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:07 am
You have made MANY false accusations against me and my character over the years, Nick... and I've always pointed them out to you.

Could you point out to me one such incident that occurred here at PhiNow, Lacewing? I'd like to judge it for myself. It may be that you were mistaken.

Who the fuck do you think you are to assess whether I've been falsely accused? I've already clearly pointed out some in this thread -- find them for yourself. Nick has done this for years. I do not need to show YOU anything, and I don't care what your judgment is.

I was hoping you would say something like that

mickthinks wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:04 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:07 am

Nick_A wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:32 am I defy you to find one example of me attacking a person's character.

You have made MANY false accusations against me and my character over the years, Nick... and I've always pointed them out to you.

Could you point out to me one such incident that occurred here at PhiNow, Lacewing? I'd like to judge it for myself. It may be that you were mistaken.

People have been shot for less. Never judge for yourself when there are women around to judge for you. There is zero tolerance for slipups.