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Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:16 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Gustav Bjornstrand wrote:Lacewing wrote:Isn't it also reasonable to ask/consider if MAN interjected himself for his OWN sense of self-importance (and control)? Why would a god NEED this kind of "translation" if the god created ALL of it and man in the god's own image? Knowing how humans can distort things, why would a god utilize such a static-prone frequency to transmit messages? What is NOT spiritual about asking reasonable questions?
But if God is God and the author of all, why would there be any substance other than just God-stuff? Why would there be any creation at all since there is no need for it? Instead of light shining from a sun, there *should* only be God's presence: the light of all light. Similarly with water, or heat, or cold, space, time and anything. What is the 'purpose' of setting all this strange stuff in motion, and then what is the purpose of this 'cloaking' effort by the author of all creation? Why the mystery?.
We are all prophets, as are the trees and the stars, then.
If god is the author, then Nature is the Book: "prophet" becomes meaningless.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:31 pm
by Gustav Bjornstrand
I happened to come across one of Hobbes' early poems at age 9 when his mystical sense had only just awakened. But even there we see the signs of what would roar forth later.
All are prophets
Stars, trees
Written in God's hand
On the eternal sky.
---L'il Hobbes, Miss Thackery's Composition Class,
A long, long time ago
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:50 pm
by Lacewing
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
We are all prophets, as are the trees and the stars, then.
If god is the author, then Nature is the Book: "prophet" becomes meaningless.
Nicely said.
For those who claim that all is created by a one, and then for they, themselves, to divide it up into pieces to be judged, does not make sense -- rather, such an approach seems clearly for the purpose of a self-serving agenda.
My guess is that there is really no separation... just, perhaps, expansion and experience and play. Humans seem to have a game... a great forgetful drama... within which they can choose to create fantastic stories of their unique importance above all else... and of their divine connection to a separate "one" who created it all, and who has asked these humans to rule over it. Fantastic manifestation of a potential of dramatic energy! Definitely NOT the only potential of energy manifestation.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:43 pm
by bobevenson
Lacewing wrote:
No, really, Bob... isn't this a total y reasonable and good question that sthitapragya asked:
sthitapragya wrote:
Ever wonder why an omnipotent God would need someone to speak for him? Why doesn't he just do it himself?
God does not appear to tamper with the universe.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:23 pm
by raw_thought
Except for that tiny part of the universe called bobevenson,the prophet!
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:26 pm
by raw_thought
I think Bob is using philosophy now to gain recruits for his cult of Bob worship!
L Ron Hubbard (Scientology) said that the fastest way to make millions is to invent your own cult! Bob is just another Horatio Alger * story! But updated to the new age.
*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Alger,_Jr.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:47 pm
by raw_thought
OMG!!!
Bob already has a commercial for his cult!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt9MP70ODNw
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:54 pm
by bobevenson
raw_thought wrote:Except for that tiny part of the universe called bobevenson,the prophet!
Divine inspiration is not tampering.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:12 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Lacewing wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
We are all prophets, as are the trees and the stars, then.
If god is the author, then Nature is the Book: "prophet" becomes meaningless.
Nicely said.
For those who claim that all is created by a one, and then for they, themselves, to divide it up into pieces to be judged, does not make sense -- rather, such an approach seems clearly for the purpose of a self-serving agenda.
My guess is that there is really no separation... just, perhaps, expansion and experience and play. Humans seem to have a game... a great forgetful drama... within which they can choose to create fantastic stories of their unique importance above all else... and of their divine connection to a separate "one" who created it all, and who has asked these humans to rule over it. Fantastic manifestation of a potential of dramatic energy! Definitely NOT the only potential of energy manifestation.
Thanks. I'm puzzled why you are not an atheist.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:02 pm
by raw_thought
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:16 pm
by bobevenson
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I'm puzzled why you are not an atheist.
I'm puzzled why everybody does not subscribe to "The Ouzo Prophecy," which cuts across all religious and spiritual points of view.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:25 pm
by Obvious Leo
I've already told you to count me in, Bob, but I'm still waiting for my tinfoil hat and my AK-47.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:42 pm
by bobevenson
Obvious Leo wrote:I've already told you to count me in, Bob, but I'm still waiting for my tinfoil hat and my AK-47.
Just sent the money via Western Union for the AK-47, and I'll include your hat at no charge, OK?
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:13 pm
by Obvious Leo
bobevenson wrote:Obvious Leo wrote:I've already told you to count me in, Bob, but I'm still waiting for my tinfoil hat and my AK-47.
Just sent the money via Western Union for the AK-47, and I'll include your hat at no charge, OK?
I'll get my people to sort it out, mate, because I never dirty my own hands with filthy lucre. However I can't wait to get them dirty on my very own gun because I've never held one in my hands before. In fact I'm feeling some faint stirrings of arousal just thinking about it.
"Happiness is a warm gun".....John Lennon.
Re: What would it take to convince you that somebody is a prophet?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:00 am
by Lacewing
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
I'm puzzled why you are not an atheist.
Well, have fun with that puzzlement which you know very well is your own fabrication.
