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phyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 5:38 pm So stay in the "Fabianism" thread.

Why are you talking about socialism in this thread as well???

Because I was talking to a Socialist. You jumped in -- and it's fine if you do -- but you can't complain about the conversation when you get here, because none of it was, until that point, even addressed to you.

Now, if you don't want to talk about Socialism, then don't. Nobody's making you. But if Gary and I have matters to debate...well, censorship doesn't happen here, and so far as I know, you ain't the mod anyway.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 6:52 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 5:38 pm So stay in the "Fabianism" thread.

Why are you talking about socialism in this thread as well???

Because I was talking to a Socialist. You jumped in -- and it's fine if you do -- but you can't complain about the conversation when you get here, because none of it was, until that point, even addressed to you.

Now, if you don't want to talk about Socialism, then don't. Nobody's making you. But if Gary and I have matters to debate...well, censorship doesn't happen here, and so far as I know, you ain't the mod anyway.

You hijacked the thread that I started. And the subject is Trump as Jesus.

phyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 7:41 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 6:52 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 5:38 pm So stay in the "Fabianism" thread.

Why are you talking about socialism in this thread as well???

Because I was talking to a Socialist. You jumped in -- and it's fine if you do -- but you can't complain about the conversation when you get here, because none of it was, until that point, even addressed to you.

Now, if you don't want to talk about Socialism, then don't. Nobody's making you. But if Gary and I have matters to debate...well, censorship doesn't happen here, and so far as I know, you ain't the mod anyway.

You hijacked the thread that I started. And the subject is Trump as Jesus.

The conversation between me and Gary is the conversation between me and Gary, or between Me and Mike is between Me and Mike, and so on. You're welcome to chime in, or else to ignore us completely; but you can't control or limit the conversation to your tastes. It doesn't work that way.

phyllo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 5:38 pm So stay in the "Fabianism" thread.

Why are you talking about socialism in this thread as well???

But he told you: because he is talking to a socialist. That's always what he's done. He sees someone posting in a thread and he identifies that person's main category. Democrat, atheist, socialist, whateverist. And that determines what he talks about.

The threads aren't named after topics; they are named after the categories of the participants.

As he says ' you can't complain about the conversation when you get here, because none of it was, until that point, even addressed to you.' That's a rule, it might even be an ontological law. You can't express opinions about when people hijack a thread, especially people who can't admit they might be or are wrong, unless they are addressing you. Of course, he was addressing you, so now you could.

I don't know where you've been and not know the rules. You came a hair's breath from censoring people and you are not a mod. He says what you 'can't' do and while he isn't a mod, he's talking to a Socialist.

And there is absolutely no motive he might have in hijacking a thread about Trump blaspheming. There's no reason that might be uncomfortable for him.

Also he can't talk to Gary about that because Gary isn't Christian and he isn't a President. How could they possibly talk about the thread topic.

You are being very unfair to IC.

If you missed the new way threads are organized, that's on you.

I thought that the "objective morals" were different than what IC displays on this site.

I have now learned how to treat people correctly.

IC often complains about people being off-topic in his conversations. Have the rules changed, or do IC's rules only apply to other people? Or am I wrong and socialism is "on topic" with "Trump as Jesus"? I'm confused. Of course, I may be making a "category error" here too. That's a possibility, I suppose.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 9:39 pm IC often complains about people being off-topic in his conversations.

Well, Gary...if you check back, you were the first one to mention "democratic Socialism" here; and if I recall, it was in connection with B. Saunders. After that, you began asking questions about my view of the nature of man, and its relation to the two political polarities in the US. So it was your horse that got us here.

But if you're done, then so am I, and we can make phyllo happy, by changing the subject. I have no objection.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 10:03 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2026 9:39 pm IC often complains about people being off-topic in his conversations.

Well, Gary...if you check back, you were the first one to mention "democratic Socialism" here; and if I recall, it was in connection with B. Saunders. After that, you began asking questions about my view of the nature of man, and its relation to the two political polarities in the US. So it was your horse that got us here.

But if you're done, then so am I, and we can make phyllo happy, by changing the subject. I have no objection.

Sounds good. See my post in the "What is truth" thread.

Thank you, gentlemen, for your cooperation.