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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:04 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:59 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:55 pm That old cliche.

No, historical fact. Go and look it up. It's true.

So what? And yeah, I've read this. Do you have a point?

Yep. But I think it's made.

You said that people on the right could be KKK. I say there's no reason to think so, and every reason, in fact, to know that's not so.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:08 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:03 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:57 pm I couldn't give a flying rat's arse what juvenile crap you've been conditioned to 'believe' as long as it doesn't interfere with others.

Wow, you spend a lot of energy inveighing against people you "couldn't give a FRA about."

No, the truth seems to be that you hate them viscerally. That much is quite evident from your language use. And you find them immensely threatening to your own psychological stability and well-being, for some reason. So the posture of not-caring is quite unconvincing, I have to say.

As for me, I've made no secret of the fact that I'm a Christian. So you should -- or could -- be able to understand what I believe.

As I said, I couldn't give a rat's arse what you believe as long as you don't try to interfere with others...

So far, so good...

...or tell them how to live.

Whoops! Look above. You did not say that. It is being added in now, to cover yourself.

So tell me, what is so odious about somebody else telling other people how to live? Do you think these "other people" are so weak that they can't decide whether or not they'll follow the advice? Or are you now afraid of emailers?

And I genuinly do NOT know what you believe.

I'm a Christian, as I said. If you don't know that, you could and should. And on discussion on this board, I've been very, very forthcoming about what I believe. I've certainly made it no secret.

But I certainly couldn't be "telling people how to live" if they have no idea what I believe, could I?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm But I certainly couldn't be "telling people how to live" if they have no idea what I believe, could I?

I don’t see why you couldn’t tell them anyway, no matter whether they know what your beliefs are or not.

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:43 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm But I certainly couldn't be "telling people how to live" if they have no idea what I believe, could I?

I don’t see why you couldn’t tell them anyway, no matter whether they know what your beliefs are or not.

If I do "tell them," then my beliefs are no longer a mystery. I've "told" them.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:43 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm But I certainly couldn't be "telling people how to live" if they have no idea what I believe, could I?

I don’t see why you couldn’t tell them anyway, no matter whether they know what your beliefs are or not.

If I do "tell them," then my beliefs are no longer a mystery. I've "told" them.

Ah. Now I see.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:04 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:59 pm
No, historical fact. Go and look it up. It's true.

So what? And yeah, I've read this. Do you have a point?

Yep. But I think it's made.

You said that people on the right could be KKK. I say there's no reason to think so, and every reason, in fact, to know that's not so.

So they are wokies then. Hitler was a wokie too, according to you and your ilk, because he used the word 'socialist' in his acronym, as a marketing ploy to appeal to the 'working man'. According to you, the KKK and Nazis are both 'woke'.
How do you define 'right wing' (which is what you clearly are since you hate 'the left' so much)? It doesn't seem to exist in your universe. What's wrong? You don't want to be associated with 'right wing'? Why would that be? What was the cult leader Jesus? Left wing or right wing?

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:08 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:43 pm
I don’t see why you couldn’t tell them anyway, no matter whether they know what your beliefs are or not.

If I do "tell them," then my beliefs are no longer a mystery. I've "told" them.

Ah. Now I see.

What a pathetic wimp you are.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm
I'm a Christian,

Care to define that? Of course you don't...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:46 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:04 pm

So what? And yeah, I've read this. Do you have a point?

Yep. But I think it's made.

You said that people on the right could be KKK. I say there's no reason to think so, and every reason, in fact, to know that's not so.

So they are wokies then.

No, I said the opposite: I said there was no reason to think people on the right would be KKK.

Do you read, at all?

According to you, the KKK and Nazis are both 'woke'.

No, "Woke" is a new term. It did not exist when the KKK was operating, or when Hitler was. But Socialism, that's a Leftism that's much older. And Hitler was, indeed, a "national socialist." That's what "Nazi" means.

How do you define 'right wing' ...

I answered that. Again, do you read, at all?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:57 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:08 pm
If I do "tell them," then my beliefs are no longer a mystery. I've "told" them.

Ah. Now I see.

What a pathetic wimp you are.

Commonsense reads. He thinks.

You'd be lucky to be him.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:03 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm I'm a Christian,

Care to define that?

Do you read? I've done so, many times. And I've held lengthy debates with people from other viewpoints, showing what I think about all kinds of specific issues, as well.

Oh well...

Let's start with "follower of Christ." Next question?

duplicate

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:57 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:08 pm
If I do "tell them," then my beliefs are no longer a mystery. I've "told" them.

Ah. Now I see.

What a pathetic wimp you are.

Takes one to know one

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:21 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:03 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:29 pm I'm a Christian,

Care to define that?

Do you read? I've done so, many times. And I've held lengthy debates with people from other viewpoints, showing what I think about all kinds of specific issues, as well.

Oh well...

Let's start with "follower of Christ."

So nothing like you then.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:07 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:46 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:25 pm
Yep. But I think it's made.

You said that people on the right could be KKK. I say there's no reason to think so, and every reason, in fact, to know that's not so.

So they are wokies then.

No, I said the opposite: I said there was no reason to think people on the right would be KKK.

Do you read, at all?

According to you, the KKK and Nazis are both 'woke'.

No, "Woke" is a new term. It did not exist when the KKK was operating, or when Hitler was. But Socialism, that's a Leftism that's much older. And Hitler was, indeed, a "national socialist." That's what "Nazi" means.

How do you define 'right wing' ...

I answered that. Again, do you read, at all?

What a confused little 'soul' you are. You really need to stay out of politics. It's obviously way above your intellectual capabilities.
I ask again, what is your definition of 'right wing'?