Nick_A wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:03 am
I may be wrong but “sick unawakened mind” seems to express a negative emotion which detracts from its value. The implication is that there is something “bad” about it. This is the Greta mind trap. Don’t fall into it. When Jesus was on the Cross he said to “forgive them for they know not what they do.” As reacting creatures living in imagination it is an unfortunate truth. Jesus didn’t curse out anyone but just reminded his followers what was actually happening. As soon as we sink to the same level which invites the exchange of FUs, philosophy and the essence of religion which invite us to be present to a happening are sacrificed to prideful reactions.
You're not wrong Nick..you highlight an important issue...my negative emotion was mine only, not belonging to any one else...it was my projection projected at another...but the awakened mind will know this is what's happening, in that we are only ever projecting our unwanted un-natural feelings at other people because they are alien to us...they are not what we are in essence, the spirit in us knows this instinctively.
They will know the emotion is only sourced from their own self and that it does not exist in the real world out there. Emotion whether positive or negative is a projection but does not exist in the real world as be both know there is no other world or self except the projection of our own self....there is only SELF...aka not-a-thing and everything, same ONE. ...(is that fair to say?)
(But then the problem with that view is it is often taken out of it's real intended context ..and from that comes the concept ''solipsism'' is born.
Then what happens is you'll hear the cry of course there is a world out there and of course there are other selves...) it seems impossible and hopeless to even try to get this message across.
When we are willing to look at our own self and take responsibility for our own thoughts..and stop blaming others for what is only our own projections is when we stop blaming others....all healing comes from this simple realisation.
By healing ourself I mean we begin to understand that 'emotion' is not who we are in essence, and that what we are is the witness of 'emotion' that is never sick or deterred by any emotion, that's the way of a healthy awakened mind. A mind like that can endure anything because nothing will stick to it...allowing things that are not real to stick to the mind is what causes sickness in the body..I know this because it has been my personal experience.
It was after my what I call my ''full blown real final awakening'' that I literally stopped getting colds and flu and ever feeling ill ...in fact I'm rarely ill at all anymore...nor am I ever tired that much. I just feel so alive contented and free and fearless of what's to come or what's to happen to me, I know nothing can happen..and that everything is good and okay and perfectly fine..blah blah...lol
Nick_A wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:03 amYou raise the question of what human intelligence actually is in comparison to subjective social definitions of intelligence. Can a person be considered intelligent if they are oblivious of respect for life and eternal values? That is a topic in itself but let me post two typical gems from Simone Weil
"The difference between more or less intelligent men is like the difference between criminals condemned to life imprisonment in smaller or larger cells. The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like a condemned man who is proud of his large cell.
"... All that matters is that he has come to the end of its intelligence, such as it was, and has passed beyond it. A village idiot is as close to truth as a child prodigy. ..."
From – “Human Personality”
Human intelligence IMO begins with the soul knowledge of universals or eternal values and devolves down into the lower parts of the collective human soul or essence. A real intelligent human being has consciously united universals with the diversity of things they produce. As above, so below.
I love those quotes by Simone..and a very good pointer she makes. Yes, shes absolutely spot on about the village idiot quip..the person that is often perceived to be the village idiot can turn out to be the most intelligence fearless strong enduring caring loving person alive...so to speak...things are not what they seem, nor are they otherwise says the sutras...the external world is how we see it, how we interpret it...and not and never HOW it actually is.
Thanks for the great quotes.
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