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Sad.

Not only do you not know how you got here,

You don't know where you are.



Do you know where your wallet is?



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Your thing is mirroring.

Can you mirror that?

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All reasons for you or anyone else to put your attention beyond 42.

Where is "here"?

Are you aware that this internet thing allows us to be at opposite ends of the planet ?

You are so self-centered you think there's one way to interpret everything. Your way.

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:07 pm Where is "here"?

Are you aware that this internet thing allows us to be at opposite ends of the planet ?

You are so self-centered you think there's one way to interpret everything. Your way.

I see this is your definition of honest and truthful.

You're capable of answering both those questions.

What's your interpretation and answer to those questions?

Am I to interpret for you, as you and she do for everyone else?

Come on, what are you going to do about it?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:12 pm

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:07 pm Where is "here"?

Are you aware that this internet thing allows us to be at opposite ends of the planet ?

You are so self-centered you think there's one way to interpret everything. Your way.

I see this is your definition of honest and truthful.

You're capable of answering both those questions.

What's your interpretation and answer to those questions?

Am I to interpret for you, as you and she do for everyone else?

Come on, what are you going to do about it?

Absolutely nothing. Either you are optimising for consensus or you are just here to scratch your own itch.

I guess honesty and truth isn't your thing.

You did do something.

You interpreted my options for me, ostensibly as shared contemplation.

Never-the-less, I stick with my answer to your, "How?"

It's like the realm of six.

The worth is in the doing.

It may be difficult at first, but strive to be honest and truthful.

Beats clever every time, because you know, with clever you end up not knowing where you are.

Can you mirror that?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:33 pm I guess honesty and truth isn't your thing.

You did do something.

You interpreted my options for me, ostensibly as shared contemplation.

Never-the-less, I stick with my answer to your, "How?"

How to avoid ambiguity and mis-interpretation? You need a better tool than English.

Mathematics will do fine (maybe).

If ambiguity still gets in the way - we can invent our own, Regular language ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language )

Or use one of the existing ones. Python?

Trust me.

You should give honesty and truth a try before you pass judgment.

Savvy that English? ... because the other was also clear.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:37 pm Trust me.

You should give honesty and truth a try before you pass judgment.

Trust me. I am.

And yet here you are - giving this advice.

Yeah, we'll see.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:40 pm Yeah, we'll see.

Well. Your accusation begs for a plausible hypothesis/explanation. So I am going with Hanlon's razor.

Would you care to reciprocate transparency ?

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:41 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:40 pm Yeah, we'll see.

Well. Your accusation begs for a plausible hypothesis/explanation. So I am going with Hanlon's razor.

Would you care to reciprocate transparency ?

No. I care to watch you now, and then, and listen for truth, and honesty.

You should be able to figure that out in context.

And there's no question in my mind how I'll do that.

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:45 pm

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:41 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:40 pm Yeah, we'll see.

Well. Your accusation begs for a plausible hypothesis/explanation. So I am going with Hanlon's razor.

Would you care to reciprocate transparency ?

No. I care to watch you now, and then, and listen for truth, and honesty.

You should be able to figure that out in context.

And there's no question in my mind how I'll do that.

It's a shame that the scientific method is twisted and applied Game Theory.

You have to falsify things to get information, not prove yourself right. Proving yourself right yields confirmation bias. So you have to go out of your way to prove yourself wrong.

And so keep watching disapprovingly I am no slave to social norms.

Your mirror let you down. Don't be too sad. Everything happens for the best.

You think witnessing is to watch disapprovingly.
That is your projection, not mirror.

To watch for honesty and truth, without judgment, is to wait in anticipation of delight.
To witness its perpetual manifestation is bliss.

It can be found on this very forum.
You'll learn this, when you begin to listen and think about what you hear.

Looking forward to witnessing your future clarity.

If bliss and delight (dopamine and serotonin) is all you are after we have pharmaceuticals for that.

Embrace the principle of parsimony!

You seek, so you think others seek.

With you it's possibly not all dishonesty.
But you are far from there now.

Paradigms are hard to stop projecting for folks. (common knowledge)

Only those without air, seek air.
Everyone else just breathes it.



(I gave you an easy wink to mirror, for your convenience, should you need to revert to what you know best)

Doing nothing didn't work out, did it. So what are you going to do now?

You could always try honesty and truth. Just sayin.