Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:37 am
I'm fascinated by the different ways of being, here, under that umbrella of the strong drive to proclaim universal truth. Certainty. We are so fearful for our identity, ultimately in the face of permanent obliteration, that we will believe anything that pushes back against that void, down to the biased neuron.
Yes! Very interesting to consider.
How much of our thinking builds up
our identity of separateness and rightness and immortal importance.
ALL of 'the thinking'. Which, by the way, is not 'your' thinking, as 'the thinking, (and to a lesser extend 'the emotions' as well), are who and what 'you', a person, are, exactly.
The identity, known as 'lacewing', 'the person', and 'the personality, here, for example, is wholly and solely 'the thoughts, and thinking, and the emotions', within 'that body'.
And, the very reason why 'you', people, in the days when this is being written, are, still, 'separated' from the actual Truth of things, is just because 'you' do not want to lose 'that identity', because 'that' is all 'you' have known, for, literally, 'your whole lives'.
Thus why you human beings are, seemingly, continually in conflict with 'one another' is because 'you' so desperately want to 'hold onto' and not 'let go' of 'you', the already well maintained 'thoughts', assumptions and beliefs, within each and every human body.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Reincarnation could be true... but in what way?
Not in the 'general way' that you people, in the days when this is being written, envision, imagine, and share among one another. 'That way' is both logically and physically impossible.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Do we really think that human notions can encapsulate what's so very different from
our linear and limited reality and awareness? The idea of coming back in some form that is
still this particular identity... I don't know... it just doesn't make sense.
The reason 'it' does not make sense is because 'it' is, literally, empirically and theoretically impossible.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Rather,
the awareness that is not exclusive to my supposed identity can arise in all things. My
supposed individual identity is like a temporary wave in an ocean... arising and returning into the ocean.
But, 'you' do not return, because 'you' do not leave.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
When this particular form (human body) -- with all of its entertaining stories and ideas -- ceases, is there really anything
separate that needs to
go anywhere
else?
Because there is only One Universe, One Life, and/or One Existence, only, there is, literally, no other place 'you' could go to.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Why not be at home where we are?
In the days when this is being written, there is only One 'home' for the 'human body', and that place is, earth.
And, there is only One 'home', for 'you', the 'person', or the 'human being', and that place is, the Universe.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:37 amOne thing the vast majority do not like, believer or non, to the point of putting it in their blind spot, is infinity. It's the factiest fact of all.
It seems the awareness of a human being is both wonderful and terrifying.
But, why does just 'awareness', itself, seem 'terrifying' to 'you', a human being, exactly?
There is, literally, nothing at all to be 'terrified' about. Except, of course, adult human beings greediness, selfishness, and hatred for things. But, these all eventually fade and pass away, after you human beings learn and understand what your 'True nature' is, exactly.
Also, 'awareness' is, actually, literally absolutely, wonder-ful, as the Universe, Itself, is, literally, full-of-wonder.
See, it would not matter how long human beings, individually or collectively lived for because there is, literally, an infinite number of new things to 'wonder', and learn about.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
To create and imagine on so many levels, which we become attached to. Like being gods of our own creations. Yet, possibly forgetting or dismissing the larger system/collective that we must surely be part of, regardless of our temporary form. The rest of nature perceives and communicates and harmonizes in ways we can't even fathom...
Again, 'this one' believes its own made up stories are irrefutably true', like 'this one' is being a god of its own creations.
Now, how the 'rest of nature' perceives and communicated and harmonizes 'in ways', actually, can be, and already has been by the way, 'fathomed'.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
and does not worry about its existence or what will become of 'it'.
Once 'you', adult human beings, also learn and understand about 'your existence' and 'what will become of' 'it', then 'you' too will also 'not worry' at all, exactly like you all once did, when 'you' were young children.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
What if we could stop worrying or caring about infinity for 'ourselves'?
What even made 'you' begin to worry or care about so-called, ' infinity for 'you' ', exactly?
And, why are 'you' 'trying to' put 'your' own personal concerns and worries 'onto others', as though 'they' have 'the same', as 'you' do?
Once again, it is like 'this one' is being god of its own creations.
Just because 'you' might do some things "lacewing" never necessarily means that 'others' do the same thing/s.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
What if we could see life as a shared dance in the moment?
Again, 'this one' is 'trying to' a god of its own creation, here.
'This one' is 'wanting to', and 'trying to', get 'others' to 'look at', and 'see', 'things' how 'it' does. Again, it is 'trying to' be god of its own creation.
For your information "lacewing' 'we' can, and some do, see 'Life', Itself, as a 'shared Thing, in which 'we' are all living in, and with.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
Then what would we hold over each other?
'you' continually 'want to' and 'try to' criticize 'others' for doing the 'very thing' that 'you' keep doing, here, "yourself".
'you' want, and are 'trying to' get, 'others' to see life as shared dance in the moment, exactly like 'you do'.
But, what if I, for example, said some thing like;
What if we could see 'Life' for what 'It' Truly is, and in the One and only way that 'It' really is?
'I' would be the 'exact same thing', as 'you' are, here, but 'you' would not be as open to 'seeing' 'my view' as a 'shared dance', in the moment, right?
'you' would want to keep criticizing any one who claims that there 'actually is' One and only One Correct and Right view. Although there is only One and One only Universe, which would, obviously, have One way of 'doing things', which is the 'Best way', for every one in this One and only shared Life, and Universe.
Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 7:57 am
How much more would we live fully in the moment if we weren't obsessing
beyond it?
But, again, it is 'you' who continually obsesses over your 'own made up creation', and 'own belief', that 'There is no one truth'.
Or, have 'you', finally, let go of 'this belief' of yours, and have 'come back', here, in this forum, a 'changed person'?