A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Barbara Brooks
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The element of freethinking is the ultimate absolute truth which reveals feeling outwardly. My purpose is nothing else than pure ideal or more so pure thought which is inner truth and that implicit power the is within everyone. This is what makes purpose complete but it has no support can not stand alone, is merely ideal no inherent standpoint, without action because actions have consequences.

Purpose belongs wholly to inner self determination moving in pursuit of what interests or what should interest therefore thought profound is knowledge that exalts ideas and truth that are not superficial rhetoric.
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If a pilosopher knows not the first principle of knowledge and when the conclusion or intermediate steps are also constructed out of know not of the starry heaven the fairest and most perfect of visible things are to be apprehended by reason and intelligence, used as a pattern and with a view to that higher knowledge; like any knowledge sees and appreciates the exquisiteness of knowledge but not truth can never behold philosophy so long as we leave the starry heavens unexamined, are unable to give an account of philosophy as a science.

The sweetness of philosophy embraces freethinking and absolute reason; a philosophical mind always loves knowledge of a sort that shows truth not so far from the heaven of pleasure.

Philosophy is a hard-won treasure must be earned. The problem is no one wants to put energy into learning it, but even now though as disregarded, as philosophy is today forces it’s way by natural appeal, and may very likely some day may emerge back into light. Philosopher who endures to the end and has done well will carry off the prize.

The prize is in the same case of runners, who run well from the starting-place to the end, but not back again from the end: they go back creeping away; the true runner comes to the finish, receives the prize, and is crowned.

We philosophers are like flowers that when we have proper nurturing grows and mature but if like a flowerplanted in poor soil become the most noxious of weeds unless preserved by some higher power.
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I forced myself up to study this morning studied for an hour or so, nothing major. I realize feeling is a state of tension with the outside world, stands over against the outside. Feeling is negative, which at the same time is positive it is self-relation in the face of outside world.

Feeling is merely a theoretical process that is why we are m free; the urge of the animal is the self-feeling need of another, which is itself negative unpleasant feeling but a need, not a contingent relationship but a necessary one.

Feeling is the privilege of higher natures to feel and the higher the nature, the more unhappiness it feels.
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Lodged in the hearts of philosophers  is knowledge that is not so far from the heaven of pleasure. Many think, and they maybe correct, philosophy is useless, but attribute the fault to those who will not use philosophy the noblest pursuit of all sciences. 

Come cast away those harsh feeling that the many entertain toward philosophy, It only leads to a lack of the pursuit of it especially without a teacher  and as matters stand today  students are so conceited see no profit in philosophy.

Profound insight can only be won by labor. Never lose sight of that be like the good farmer nurturing and cultivating gentle qualities of wisdom. Forget those skeptics they prevent philosophy from growing; there is a perfection, which all philosophy ought to reach and not to fall short of.

Laboring anything is positive and purposeful, it is the chain that keeps us in bondage from which we cannot sway away from.  

 
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BB,
Barbara Brooks wrote:AK
Your not sure that this part of mathematics concerned with questions of size, shape, relative position of figures, and the properties of space.
Hmm! You could say this is the description of the subject of Mathematics itself, not a part. But I think my point was to ask where you would start the teaching of Mathematics as the current set=based system over here does not appear to hold much interest to the young.
There are many theorems. I say learn them.
Then I'd be a Mathematician? But I am planning to return to such very soon, with the aim of grasping Symbolic Logic from the Maths slant.
You’re the one who took what I wrote as only the Euclid the oldest of sciences.
It was raised more in the historical spirit of teaching Maths as it developed rather than its revealed Logic.
What about Descartes .analytic geometry, an alternative method for formalizing geometry. In this approach, a point is represented by its Cartesian coordinates, a line is represented by its equation, and so on. In Euclid's original approach, the Pythagorean theorem follows from Euclid's axioms. In the Cartesian approach, the axioms are the axioms of algebra, and the equation expressing the Pythagorean theorem is then a definition of one of the terms in Euclid's axioms, which are now considered to be theorems.
The Algebrazation of Geometry was a work of genius, one I was pleased to discover was by a Philosopher I'd read.
Or 17th century, Girard Desargues, motivated by the theory of perspective, introduced the concept of idealized points, lines, and planes at infinity. The result can be considered as a type of generalized geometry, projective geometry, but it can also be used to produce proofs in ordinary Euclidean geometry in which the number of special cases is reduced.
Now that is interesting, as due to CS Pierce I've been aquainting myself with the concept of projective geometry, but its beyond my skils to understand the full ramifications of a 'math' that can shorten the axioms needed to produce all of Euclids results?
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Arising,



If I had a classroom of my own I would begin the class by asking everyone to spin around and around as fast as they could to be able to realize self does not change. That should be the beginning the beginning of understanding of all Mathematics, one and many.

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Barbara Brooks wrote:

If I had a classroom of my own I would begin the class by asking everyone to spin around and around as fast as they could to be able to realize self does not change. That should be the beginning the beginning of understanding of all Mathematics, one and many.
Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone pukes. :P
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It has been said that knowledge makes good people and good people act nobly and conquer their enemies in battle because they are good but victory sometimes produces forgetfulness of knowledge; for many grow insolent from victory and many a victory has been and will be suicidal to the victors; but knowledge is never suicidal. In the mind the power and capacity of learning already exists there but just as the eye is unable to turn from darkness to light without the body, so too learning can only by the movement of the whole mind be turned from becoming to being. Philosophy must be learned by degrees in order to endure the sight of true being the brightest and best of existence, or in other words good.

Knowledge comes on the scene and liberates mind to carry out reason. Few retain reason, it is seen with difficulty, yet whatever is done and whatever happens that brings us from night to day reason must be there.

Knowledge, courage, temperance, and justice are all virtues. Philosophers must be wise to be virtuous, the same as must be valiant, temperate, and just must be worthy of being called wise temperant nature of harmony and self control of wants and desires, to be master of self.

Socrates believed, God has laid out a pattern of the perfect philosopher for those who desire may see and may set self in that order. But, whether such perfection exists or ever will exist, he believed no matter live after that manner.
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Language is unfortunately like painting; for the impressions of the painter have only an attitude of life, and yet if you ask them a question the paintings conserve a solemn silence. The same may be said of writing when they have been once written down they are tumbled about anywhere among those who may or may not understand them. Words are maltreated, abused, and they have no parent to protect them; nor can they protect or defend themselves.

To be a skillful rhetorician, which is the art of enchanting the mind, an orator has to learn the differences of the human mind -- they are so many and of such a nature. First one must have a good theoretical idea of words and then have experience of them in actual life, and last be able to follow them with all his or her senses whether in speaking or teaching or writing them.

In courts of law, the question of justice and good literally the lawyer care nothing about truth, but only about conviction based on probability, There are cases in which the actual facts, if they are improbable, ought to be withheld, and that always in speaking, the orator should keep probability in view, and say good-bye to the truth.

Those who know the truth will always know best how to discover the resemblances of the truth. My rhetoric is in order that I may be able to say what is acceptable to God and always to act acceptably to God as far as in I lay; there is a saying that a man of sense should not try to please people (at least this should not be his first object) but his good and noble God. If the way is long and circuitous, wonder not at this, for, where the end is great, there we may take the longer road.
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To perceive anything either by the help of sight or hearing or other senses a conception appears some thing like it or unlike. Therefore we acquire knowledge before we are born, or at least the instant of birth.

Not only knowledge but reason, beauty, goodness, justice, holiness, and all, that is stamped of essence. We knew but have forgot and by the use of knowledge recover what we previously knew. Then knowledge is the process of remembering and may be rightly termed recollection. Those who know merely remember.
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Supposedly Kant disliked women very much, and that Aristotle believed women were inferior and men superior, Kant it is said would not even associate with woman except his maid. Hegel thougt different, he believed women were divine and men were mere human.

Nicolo Machiavelli thought, “fortune is a woman, and if you wish to keep her under it is necessary to beat and ill-use her; and it is seen that she allows herself to be mastered by the adventurous rather than by those who go to work more coldly. She is, therefore, always, woman-like, a lover of young men, because they are less cautious, more violent, and with more audacity command her.”

Herodotus, and Homer in their times thought women were mere commodity, just look at the very first pages of Herodotus, the Egyptian king’s daughter was abducted by Persian merchants. When finally she was finally returned her father would not take her back because the value of his daughter had been declined.

I believe b oth sexes can pursue philosophy its is the same for men as the same pursuit for women. The same pursuits in reference to any of the pursuits or arts in life, How does the nature of women philosophy would be the same between a bald man and hairy men being a philosopher? Can any one say a bald man is a philosopher, and forbid the hairy men from being a philosopher?

There is nothing peculiar in the constitution that affects the administration of the country. where men and women are not guardians and watchdogs together. Follow the path beaten by great philosophers and imitate that which who has been before. If I never become equally to their language or as supreme, at least I will be able to say I hit the mark.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:


If I had a classroom of my own I would begin the class by asking everyone to spin around and around as fast as they could to be able to realize self does not change. That should be the beginning the beginning of understanding of all Mathematics, one and many.

AS wrote back; "Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone pukes."


Very funny, I didn't think of that. Excellent answer, I suppose we do change a little bit .

Like Goethe wrote about the colors of feathered creatures that their plumage is determined by the action of light and in the internal organization. Goethe also spoke of colors in general: White, and black, yellow, orange and brown, interchange in a variety of ways, they are a mixture of colors resulting from an organic concoction and more or less its, the animal creature, level of development, Invertebrates, the sub-kingdom of animals and fish have more elementary colors. The fluid of these creatures has a peculiar property of appearing, when exposed to light and air, first yellowish, then greenish and then turns blue and from blue to violet but always assumes a deeper red.

Whereas the markings on the skin of animals are connected with the internal parts. The color of fish is brought out in warmer climates which affect the water, it intensifies them, beautifies its being. Light affecting the plumage and colors of birds is remarkable, for instance in certain parrots, the breast feathers are really yellow, but the part that stands out and catches the light is intensified from yellow to red, Thus on the breast of such birds looks deep red but if you blew into the feathers you would find the color yellow instead of the red. In this there is a marked difference between the uncovered feathers and the covered up.
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Philosophy depends on principles derived from pure thinking and that is requisite above all. What is needed along this highway of philosophy is conviction. A belief which contains within all that is concrete and actual consists in the two forms, self and consciousness.

Hence reason never appears too soon, only when the right time comes, and, when the public is ripe to receive it. This quivers within all lovers of knowledge and truth.

Pure sheer implicit power within self is simply reason , a kind of illumination of inner truth, which has two guiding principles one conviction and the other reason, together the two are sometimes in harmony and sometimes at war one always conquers the other.

Therefore philosophers refuse to be led astray and abandon reason because we cannot know until reason is actualized. Laboring anything into something simply means transferring from a state not explicit to self fully expressed.
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The criterion is sheer intelligence, the pathway of knowledge lays aside consciousness, because consciousness is without thought just pure ideaity within oneself.

The master is also the servant and the servant the master merely means that in the mind there is a good and also a bad principle; and when the better has the worse under control, then it is said to be the master of self the ruler of good over bad. The slave of self and unprincipled is not good. The master is also the slave and the slave the master means in the mind there is a good principle and a bad principle; and when the better has the worse under control, then it is said to be the master of self is the ruler of good over bad.

Behold truth where pasturage is found nourishment where the better part of the mind is likely to be true.
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Cultivated many ages ago by the most illustrious philosophers yet is still in question the intellectual world versus the visible world. Reason being of the intellectual world entails thinking about things in for the sake of knowledge which has the power of elevating the mind to the highest principles of being.

Rene Descartes, 1596-1650 thought reason among people is equally distributed the power of judging right from wrong, which is properly called reason, that we conduct our thoughts along different ways, and do not fix our attention on the same objects. To be possessed of a vigorous mind is not enough, the prime requisite is rightly to apply.

Descartes never fancied to be more perfect than those of the general public; on the contrary, often he wished that he were equal to clearness and distinctness of imagination, or in fullness and readiness of memory. He had the good fortune to having very early in life conducted a method of raising little by little to the highest point life will permit anyone to reach.

Come greet the dawn of a better time and rise above the interests of the moment. The love of truth is the first condition of philosophy that lays open before the seeker its riches and depth.
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