Re: The Sun Also Sets
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:06 pm
Hey, asshole. Get your quoting right. You're quoting someone else on the bottom series. I didn't say those things. I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth that I didn't say.Age wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:46 pmCould there EVER be 'motionless atoms', or 'motionless sub-atomic matter'?Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:20 pmAge, thank you for all the attention directed towards The Wonderment of The Setting Sun.Age wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:12 am
The word 'time' JUST REFERS TO the ' measuring of the duration between PERCEIVED 'events' '.
I say, 'perceived events' BECAUSE there IS NO ACTUAL 'separation' ANYWHERE, as there IS ONLY One 'event' HAPPENING and OCCURRING 'NOW', and 'HERE'. BUT, OF COURSE, older human beings HAVE MADE UP, and CONTINUE TO MAKE UP, DIFFERENT, PERCEIVED, 'events'. And, the ' measuring of the duration BETWEEN said 'events' ' is just what 'time' IS, EXACTLY, and what IS REFERRED TO as 'time'.
So, it could be SAID, and ARGUED, that 'time', itself, like absolutely EVERY 'thing' ELSE, (besides OF COURSE the Universe, Itself), exists WITHIN 'Eternity'. HOWEVER, 'this way' of LOOKING and SEEING 'things' is getting WAY TO FAR AHEAD for MOST people, in the days when this is being written.
To 'me' ANYWAY, ONLY 'thinking' OR 'perception' 'divides,' or 'separates', 'that' which IS NOT.
AND, 'motion', itself, is JUST IN 'perpetuity' or 'continuity', as 'this' IS the ONLY WAY the Universe COULD WORK, as 'It' DOES NOW.
That older human beings 'see' 'division' or 'separate increments' is just because this is 'the way' the brain, or 'them', have been TRAINED TO 'think' and 'see' the One 'Thing', as 'things'.
'Motion' is JUST the consequence of what the Universe IS MADE UP OF, EXACTLY. And, 'motion' is JUST the effect of the ONLY WAY the, eternal, Universe COULD WORK.
SEE, there are ONLY TWO FUNDAMENTAL 'things', namely, 'matter' AND 'space'. 'Space' just being the distance between and/or around 'matter'. Now, because 'space' is made up of, literally, NO 'thing', the One and ONLY 'thing/matter', is ABLE TO MOVE ABOUT, absolutely FREELY. Which IS, essentially, JUST 'motion', itself.
'Matter' IN CONTINUAL MOTION, causes or creates CHANGE, and it IS this CHANGE, itself, which IS 'measured', in what is called 'duration', between 'agreed upon' 'different events'. Which 'are' just agreed upon different 'appearances' 'of matter', itself, in different 'shapes', 'ways', or 'forms'.
WHERE is this LUDICROUS conception or perception of 'entropy' IN relation TO the Universe, Itself, coming FROM, EXACTLY?
OBVIOUSLY ALL of the OTHER named or labeled 'things', IN Life, do NOT last forever, in the EXACT SAME 'way', 'shape', NOR 'form', as there exists an APPEARANCE OF 'entropy'. BUT, because 'energy' can NEITHER be created, NOR destroyed, the Universe, Itself, does NOT 'end', NOR will 'begin'.
'Evolution', itself, just like 'creation', itself, can ALSO NOT 'begin', NOR 'end',
I KNOW that there is NO so-called 'final evolution of entropy' so the rest here is just MOOT.
I JUST LOOK AT what ACTUALLY HAPPENS and OCCURS, and so I do NOT BOTHER WITH what 'COULD BE's' or 'IF's' here.
I found that 'theories', 'presumptions', and 'guesses' can all to QUICKLY, EASILY, and SIMPLY LEAD TO TOTALLY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect MORE ASSUMPTIONS, and CONCLUSIONS.
You have a healthy dislike for assumptive pronouns, so I’ll be mindful of that. Sure, the totality of forever and infinity cannot be more, and cannot be less, so the final evolution for entropy within the closed system of the infinite universe would be all the energy equally distributed amongst every atom in the universe, all vibrating at a low energy frequency theoretically detectable, much as the The Black Dwarf, Dark Matter and Dark Energy are theoretically detectable within the mirror. In a situation of perfectly equitable energy distribution throughout the universe, absolute zero could not exist anywhere because energy would be everywhere. And for that matter, what amount of space would separate motionless atoms, or atoms' parts?
Especially considering that, supposedly, EVERY action CAUSES a reaction.
The Universe, Itself, ALWAYS exists THE WAY 'It' IS HERE, NOW. That is; IN an ALWAYS, CHANGING, evolving-creation.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:25 pm However, not to lose track of the setting sun, could absolute zero exist as The Black Dwarf of zero energy before all the energy is evenly distributed amongst all the matter? If so, and absolute coldness beyond compare is a characteristic of The Black Dwarf, which it may not be, then The Black Dwarf may indeed be the end-all of be-all, the destiny of everything, and the atoms in the current configuration of your form will be a part of that destiny.But 'you', human beings, do NOT KNOW that the Universe WILL 'die'. 'you' ONLY GUESS 'It' does.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:25 pm But of course, absolute zero for matter may be as elusive light speed for matter, which means that even the coldest sunset would still have a wee bit of warmth.
All of which relates to epistemology in the sense of, how do we know what we know?
HOW 'we' KNOW, what we 'know', is BY JUST KNOWING HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE and DISTINGUISH BETWEEN KNOWING and 'thinking'.
LOL By definition 'theorizing' is NOT KNOWING, and JUST GUESSING or ASSUMING ONLY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:25 pm We wonder, we reason, we get educated in causation which includes both intrinsic and cultural knowledge, then theorize, which is how we know what we know ...
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:25 pm we being the totality of humanity that includes raising the hand and asking teacher.