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Testosterone?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:48 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:12 am'Interesting' how idiot Americans who are constantly demonising this mythical 'left' never want to associate themselves with 'the right' You can't have 'left' without 'right'.

And yet I'm still a centrist.

Considering your loathing of "the left", it seems odd that you don't position yourself farther away from it than that.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:23 am Testosterone?

Okay, case closed then.

Apparently there is no 'right', only 'left'. Ask any American.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:05 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:54 pmSo tell us which racisms are true please.

East Asians (specifically South Koreans and Japanese) have higher average-IQ than other races (especially by mathematical education).

And how is that caused?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:05 am White males and females are more sexually desirable than other races.

Is this based on some sort of opinion survey?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:05 am Black males commit a substantially disproportionate amount of violent crimes in the United States based on their population %.

Do you propose that memebership of a certain race is responsible for levels of agression or something? How do you correct for the effects of centuries of oppression and enforced poverty?

So the oppression of someone's ancestors is causing someone to commit crimes today? Hmm. Prisons everywhere must be full of Irish people then. And perhaps they are. You would never know though, because all 'white' people are lumped into the same statistic. Hmmm.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:30 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:23 am Testosterone?

Okay, case closed then.

Vege is correct, African-Americans were selectively bred by plantation owners and slave-masters for hundreds of years. They have significantly higher testosterone levels than other races. It is racially true, because African males also have higher than average testosterone. East Asians, the lowest average.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:26 amConsidering your loathing of "the left", it seems odd that you don't position yourself farther away from it than that.

Just because I despise them, doesn't mean I love the far-right. Fundamentalist religious Christians, Moslems, Jews, I don't like religious fanaticism and totalitarianism. I do consider Abrahamism the religious Right, and Secularism the religious Left.

The reason the far-left is railed against today, is because it holds the most cultural power and sway, at the moment. In the 1990s, it was Right-wing Christian Evangelicals, the ones who voted into power W. Bush, Cheyney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, and the Neo-Cons. Back then they censored swear words on rap-CDs, if you will remember.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:55 am So the oppression of someone's ancestors is causing someone to commit crimes today? Hmm. Prisons every must be full of Irish people then. And perhaps they are. You would never know though, because all 'white' people are lumped into the same statistic. Hmmm.

The alternative is to uncover which gene causes this violence. There's no need to do any of the statistical correction work that a scientist would need to perform given such a contaminated data set as the criminal statistics of a country that has a long history of criminalising race if you have that information and can show that black people have that gene and white people don't.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:10 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:30 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:23 am Testosterone?

Okay, case closed then.

Vege is correct, African-Americans were selectively bred by plantation owners and slave-masters for hundreds of years. They have significantly higher testosterone levels than other races. It is racially true, because African males also have higher than average testosterone. East Asians, the lowest average.

You do realise that testosterone levels in men aren't static don't you? They are affected by environment. In wartime average testosterone levels go up.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:50 amAnd how is that caused?

There are many causes. The main one is a cultural institution valuing intelligence over other traits. For example, the Jewish people and religion favor intelligence very highly in their mating preferences, moreso than just about any other ethnic/racial group, hence why Ashkenazi Jews (European Semitic mixes), tend to have above-average IQ, regardless of the different countries they inhabit. So their intelligence *CANNOT* be attributed to local environments and native culture/domain.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:50 amIs this based on some sort of opinion survey?

Based off dating and matchmaking websites in the United States.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:50 amDo you propose that memebership of a certain race is responsible for levels of agression or something? How do you correct for the effects of centuries of oppression and enforced poverty?

Vege already answered it...it's mostly about higher than average testosterone. But there are other factors, like single-parent (mother) homes, poverty, cultural reinforcement (rappers promoting "thug life"), intended political suppression.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:10 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:30 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:23 am Testosterone?

Okay, case closed then.

Vege is correct, African-Americans were selectively bred by plantation owners and slave-masters for hundreds of years. They have significantly higher testosterone levels than other races. It is racially true, because African males also have higher than average testosterone. East Asians, the lowest average.

Could the answer be to persuade black males to change gender, do you think? That should reduce their testosterone, and then it would just be a matter of deciding which toilets they should use.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:15 amYou do realise that testosterone levels in men aren't static don't you? They are affected by environment. In wartime average testosterone levels go up.

Yes, but that doesn't change the averages. If Europeans engage in warfare, it goes up temporarily, but Africans still have higher-than-average across the longer span.

Higher-testosterone is harder to emasculate, make docile, and "civilize". Civilized-men require feminization, to a degree.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:13 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:55 am So the oppression of someone's ancestors is causing someone to commit crimes today? Hmm. Prisons every must be full of Irish people then. And perhaps they are. You would never know though, because all 'white' people are lumped into the same statistic. Hmmm.

The alternative is to uncover which gene causes this violence. There's no need to do any of the statistical correction work that a scientist would need to perform given such a contaminated data set as the criminal statistics of a country that has a long history of criminalising race if you have that information and can show that black people have that gene and white people don't.

You can't say a 'country is criminalising a race'. That doesn't actually mean anything. It's gobbledygook. You have to be more specific. Don't bother. I don't care anyway. If Americans what to kill each other with their gun obsession then so be it.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:20 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 11:15 amYou do realise that testosterone levels in men aren't static don't you? They are affected by environment. In wartime average testosterone levels go up.

Yes, but that doesn't change the averages. If Europeans engage in warfare, it goes up temporarily, but Africans still have higher-than-average across the longer span.

Higher-testosterone is harder to emasculate, make docile, and "civilize". Civilized-men require feminization, to a degree.

Africans? I thought you were talking about the American prison population.