bahman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:29 pm
Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:25 am
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:53 pm
Could you define continuous motion and provide your argument in favor of it?
To me,
'motion' is;
the action or process of moving or being moved and/or the phenomenon in which an object changes its position. And,
'continuous' is;
forming an unbroken whole; without interruption.
So, I define 'continuous motion' as;
the process of forming an unbroken whole, through movement, without interruption.
And my argument for 'continuous motion', in regards to the Universe, Itself, or Reality, is;
What thee Universe is ACTUALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY made up of and how thee Universe ACTUALLY and FUNDAMENTALLY WORKS. Or, in other words,
If the Universe began, or will end, or if there is an interrupted movement of the Universe, Itself, then there is NOT 'continuous motion'.
There is absolutely NO proof NOR even ANY indication that there was a beginning to EVERY thing, and, from my perspective, at the moment of NOW EVERY thing is continually moving, and until ACTUAL PROOF of some thing being interrupted in movement or that thee Universe/Everything did ACTUALLY begin, or will end, then the Fact that things are 'continuously moving' NOW MEANS that they ALWAYS WILL.
Therefore, until SOME one PROVIDES ACTUAL PROOF where movement is ACTUALLY broken or interrupted, then what I have observed remains THE SAME. That is; If there is just one thing that is ACTUALLY interrupted in movement, and this can be SHOWN, then 'continuous movement' for ALL does NOT exist and thus IS IMPOSSIBLE.
No, the space between discrete motion can be so small that it cannot be measured simply.
If this, now, "space" "between discrete motion" can be so small that 'it' can NOT be measured, then HOW do you "KNOW" that 'it' exists?
And, WHY, EXACTLY, are you saying and claiming that 'it' does exist?
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:29 pm
Moreover, I already mentioned that the brain cheats us when we watch a film.
So, because the brain within that head CHEATS 'you' when it is watching films, that brain then TELLS (cheats) you into BELIEVING that there is separation in the motion of thee Universe, Itself.
Also, is it possible that the brain within that head is CHEATING you to BELIEVE things, which ACTUALLY are NOT true, and then TRICKS you into using examples of how films are somehow separated into, who knows how many, MANY different segments.
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:29 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 am
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:53 pm
So what? The reality could be discrete and it is.
If ANY one wants to SUGGEST that "Reality COULD BE discrete", then just SHOW HOW Reality COULD BE discrete. You have NOT YET done this "bahman".
And, if ANY one wants to CLAIM that "Reality IS discrete", then just PROVE this.
How much more SIMPLER could this get?
There is motion. Continuous motion is impossible as it is illustrated in OP. Therefore, the motion is discrete as the only alternative which is left.
'you', "bahman", is one of the most DISILLUSIONED ones in this forum.
This, so-called, "argument" of yours here, in the opening post, is just an example of what BELIEVE is true, but which you do NOT have ANY ACTUAL evidence, let alone proof, for. So, what you do is just make up just about absolutely ANY thing, in the hope that that will back up and support your BELIEFS. But, as can be CLEARLY SEEN, what you said in the opening post, which was;
To move, it must not be at now at the current location and then be at the next instance at another point. But something cannot be and not be at the same instance, now (it exists at now and must not exist in order to move). Therefore, continuous motion is impossible. is ONLY your DISTORTED BELIEFS, alone.
Your first sentence is just nonsensical AND illogical. Unless, OF COURSE, you can and WILL make it make sense and logical.
Let us say that the 'it' word, in your sentence, refers to 'a ball', for example,. Now, 'To move, a ball, MUST NOT be at 'now', at the ball's current location, and then, be at the 'next instance' at another point'.
WHY do you make this CLAIM here?
And, did you get to the, so-called, "next instance", through a continuous process or did you just JUMP to the "next instance"?
By the way, the reason WHY you have such a DISTORTED BELIEF can be CLEARLY SEEN in your opening post, in this thread.
Your second sentence has just so MANY faults, flaws, and CONTRADICTIONS I am not even going to bother exposing them ALL. Or, maybe it is the way you LOOK AT and SEE what 'now' means or refers to, EXACTLY, WHY you have this view and BELIEF that you have here?
Your "conclusion' is just your BELIEF, which you had PRIOR anyway to when you came up with the first two sentences. Your first two sentences, again, is just you 'trying to' find absolutely ANY thing to help in supporting and backing up your ALREADY OBTAINED BELIEF.
