Re: your penalty box
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:05 am
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:52 am regret
As in: I regret takin' age out of the penalty box.
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henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:52 am regret
As in: I regret takin' age out of the penalty box.
So, INSTEAD of READING and REPLYING to what I SAY and WRiTE, WHY do you NOT just put me back in YOUR LIST of those, who are NOT WORTHY of being LISTENED TO, nor HEARD?henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:05 amhenry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:52 am regret
As in: I regret takin' age out of the penalty box.
"henry quirk" writes this as though someone CARES.henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:27 amOkay: back in it goes...047D1F29-3BEB-47DA-94B4-DAECD4C9A3C6.png
I am very glad you agree with me, then. Earlier posts of yours, for example the one below, seemed to indicate you thought putting people on ignore was wrong, per se.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:47 amOF COURSE.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:02 pmPerhaps, however, choosing to spend X minutes with person X is time away from talking/reading person Y or meditating or....some other activity one has already found tends to be valuable. Any choice may be the wrong one, but if one has found, for example, that someone seem to be an idiot - sorry, I mean, doesn't want to focus on things you want to or in ways you find valuable - then to continue to choose having contact is to choose to not do something else.
Was there ANY reason or NEED to express what is OBVIOUSLY Truly OBVIOUS?
If yes, then PLEASE EXPLAIN.
You seemed to be assuming that if someone puts someone on ignore, that person is saying no one should listen to that person, when in fact it is simply, for me anyway, a way of making it easier to see what I am more likely to find interesting and not to see what I tend not to find interesting.I do not put ANY one in the, so called, "penalty box". This is because EVERY one is worthy of being LISTENED TO and HEARD. But most in here will NEVER KNOW this.
You might miss something. But each time you read their posts, you could be reading someone else's post. So, you are missing that. If you spend 40 minutes here, you can choose to cut out some of the noise, make it easier to avoid certain posters, not catch a phrase and get drawn (by idiocy sometimes) and focus on other people's posts. Yes, we make choices and we might miss something. But keeping their posts visible and checking them out ENTAILS that you miss something else. And what you have done is eliminate something you think probably has less value for you.
If I read a novelist and it was crap, I'd be less likely to read their next novel. Yes, it might be a work of genius, but I will read something else. Perhaps I do read the next and it's crap. Now I decide not to try again (unless I get told by people I respect that finally this person can write) and I read something else. I don't miss that other novel.
Everybody selects, even the people who come and take some moral/intellectual high ground here in a thread like this: Oh, I would never remove a voice. Everyone's posts might have value. Or whatever their take on high ground. But the truth is they are, in their lives, always selecting, and giving preference to make this person a friend and not that one - so they have conversations with this person much more than others and will miss out on other conversations - this director's films and not that one's, these books and not those, this news source and not that one and so on and so on.
So, their moral/intellectual high ground is just bs. They do it, don't think of it in this context, and like standing over others.
We all select what we focus on. Yes, it is fallible. But we have to select, even if we never select, that's selecting and it means out limited time is spent without trying to find voices, writers, speakers who tend to give us what we value.
If one selects 'I'll take whatever comes' well, you sure are going to miss something.
Now, one does not have to use the foe function to avoid certain people here or elsewhere. But if it makes it easier, why not?
Just to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, I NEVER ASSUMED ANY such thing.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 amI am very glad you agree with me, then. Earlier posts of yours, for example the one below, seemed to indicate you thought putting people on ignore was wrong, per se.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:47 amOF COURSE.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:02 pm Perhaps, however, choosing to spend X minutes with person X is time away from talking/reading person Y or meditating or....some other activity one has already found tends to be valuable. Any choice may be the wrong one, but if one has found, for example, that someone seem to be an idiot - sorry, I mean, doesn't want to focus on things you want to or in ways you find valuable - then to continue to choose having contact is to choose to not do something else.
Was there ANY reason or NEED to express what is OBVIOUSLY Truly OBVIOUS?
If yes, then PLEASE EXPLAIN.
You seemed to be assuming that if someone puts someone on ignore, that person is saying no one should listen to that person, when in fact it is simply, for me anyway, a way of making it easier to see what I am more likely to find interesting and not to see what I tend not to find interesting.I do not put ANY one in the, so called, "penalty box". This is because EVERY one is worthy of being LISTENED TO and HEARD. But most in here will NEVER KNOW this.
Because the MOST UNEXPECTING one might be the one who ENDS UP PROVIDING the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATIONAL INFORMATION.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 am As I said earlier in the thread we all do this in a variety of ways....You might miss something. But each time you read their posts, you could be reading someone else's post. So, you are missing that. If you spend 40 minutes here, you can choose to cut out some of the noise, make it easier to avoid certain posters, not catch a phrase and get drawn (by idiocy sometimes) and focus on other people's posts. Yes, we make choices and we might miss something. But keeping their posts visible and checking them out ENTAILS that you miss something else. And what you have done is eliminate something you think probably has less value for you.
If I read a novelist and it was crap, I'd be less likely to read their next novel. Yes, it might be a work of genius, but I will read something else. Perhaps I do read the next and it's crap. Now I decide not to try again (unless I get told by people I respect that finally this person can write) and I read something else. I don't miss that other novel.
Everybody selects, even the people who come and take some moral/intellectual high ground here in a thread like this: Oh, I would never remove a voice. Everyone's posts might have value. Or whatever their take on high ground. But the truth is they are, in their lives, always selecting, and giving preference to make this person a friend and not that one - so they have conversations with this person much more than others and will miss out on other conversations - this director's films and not that one's, these books and not those, this news source and not that one and so on and so on.
So, their moral/intellectual high ground is just bs. They do it, don't think of it in this context, and like standing over others.
We all select what we focus on. Yes, it is fallible. But we have to select, even if we never select, that's selecting and it means out limited time is spent without trying to find voices, writers, speakers who tend to give us what we value.
If one selects 'I'll take whatever comes' well, you sure are going to miss something.
Now, one does not have to use the foe function to avoid certain people here or elsewhere. But if it makes it easier, why not?
Unfortunately, this is not a response to my arguments. It does not address the issue that we are always choosing and so perhaps missing THE MOST INSIGHT and INSPIRATIONAL INFORMATION, and that it is a strategy to increase our chances of not missing it that we ALL, including you, focus on some forums, articles, people, programs, books, writers, philosophers and so on and not others.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:26 pmJust to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, I NEVER ASSUMED ANY such thing.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 amI am very glad you agree with me, then. Earlier posts of yours, for example the one below, seemed to indicate you thought putting people on ignore was wrong, per se.
You seemed to be assuming that if someone puts someone on ignore, that person is saying no one should listen to that person, when in fact it is simply, for me anyway, a way of making it easier to see what I am more likely to find interesting and not to see what I tend not to find interesting.I do not put ANY one in the, so called, "penalty box". This is because EVERY one is worthy of being LISTENED TO and HEARD. But most in here will NEVER KNOW this.
In fact, what I was ACTUALLY THINKING WAS; that if someone puts another on ignore, then that one is saying that they do not want to listen to what the other one is saying, no matter what they have to say, and that absolutely EVERY one is WORTHY of being LISTENED to AND HEARD. This is because ABSOLUTELY EVERY one is born ABSOLUTELY WORTHY and DESERVING OF being HEARD, and LISTENED TO.
Because the MOST UNEXPECTING one might be the one who ENDS UP PROVIDING the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATIONAL INFORMATION.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 am As I said earlier in the thread we all do this in a variety of ways....You might miss something. But each time you read their posts, you could be reading someone else's post. So, you are missing that. If you spend 40 minutes here, you can choose to cut out some of the noise, make it easier to avoid certain posters, not catch a phrase and get drawn (by idiocy sometimes) and focus on other people's posts. Yes, we make choices and we might miss something. But keeping their posts visible and checking them out ENTAILS that you miss something else. And what you have done is eliminate something you think probably has less value for you.
If I read a novelist and it was crap, I'd be less likely to read their next novel. Yes, it might be a work of genius, but I will read something else. Perhaps I do read the next and it's crap. Now I decide not to try again (unless I get told by people I respect that finally this person can write) and I read something else. I don't miss that other novel.
Everybody selects, even the people who come and take some moral/intellectual high ground here in a thread like this: Oh, I would never remove a voice. Everyone's posts might have value. Or whatever their take on high ground. But the truth is they are, in their lives, always selecting, and giving preference to make this person a friend and not that one - so they have conversations with this person much more than others and will miss out on other conversations - this director's films and not that one's, these books and not those, this news source and not that one and so on and so on.
So, their moral/intellectual high ground is just bs. They do it, don't think of it in this context, and like standing over others.
We all select what we focus on. Yes, it is fallible. But we have to select, even if we never select, that's selecting and it means out limited time is spent without trying to find voices, writers, speakers who tend to give us what we value.
If one selects 'I'll take whatever comes' well, you sure are going to miss something.
Now, one does not have to use the foe function to avoid certain people here or elsewhere. But if it makes it easier, why not?
LOL what do you think or BELIEVE you are 'arguing' for, EXACTLY?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:33 pmUnfortunately, this is not a response to my arguments.Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:26 pmJust to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, I NEVER ASSUMED ANY such thing.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 am I am very glad you agree with me, then. Earlier posts of yours, for example the one below, seemed to indicate you thought putting people on ignore was wrong, per se.
You seemed to be assuming that if someone puts someone on ignore, that person is saying no one should listen to that person, when in fact it is simply, for me anyway, a way of making it easier to see what I am more likely to find interesting and not to see what I tend not to find interesting.
In fact, what I was ACTUALLY THINKING WAS; that if someone puts another on ignore, then that one is saying that they do not want to listen to what the other one is saying, no matter what they have to say, and that absolutely EVERY one is WORTHY of being LISTENED to AND HEARD. This is because ABSOLUTELY EVERY one is born ABSOLUTELY WORTHY and DESERVING OF being HEARD, and LISTENED TO.
Because the MOST UNEXPECTING one might be the one who ENDS UP PROVIDING the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATIONAL INFORMATION.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:20 am As I said earlier in the thread we all do this in a variety of ways....
That you are ALWAYS CHOOSING has NEVER been in DISPUTE, by me.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:33 pm It does not address the issue that we are always choosing and so perhaps missing THE MOST INSIGHT and INSPIRATIONAL INFORMATION,
BUT, as it can be CLEARLY SEEN and OBSERVED, MOST of 'you' CHOOSE what you READ, HEAR, and SEE, NOT so that you do NOT MISS obtaining and gathering the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATION INFORMATION, but so you GAIN and GATHER MORE 'confirmation' on what you ALREADY BELIEVE or ASSUME is true. YOUR BIASES are SO BLATATANLY OBVIOUS, and who and what you REMOVE from HAVING TO 'listen to', or who you put on your IGNORE LISTS, just REAFFIRMS what 'it' is that is being BELIEVED and ASSUMED is ALREADY True, Right, and/or Correct.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:33 pm and that it is a strategy to increase our chances of not missing it that we ALL, including you, focus on some forums, articles, people, programs, books, writers, philosophers and so on and not others.
It's ok with me if you don't know. Others will.
Sure, because you argue against using foe on the grounds that one may miss the MOST INSPIRATIONAL POST. You don't seem to understand that that is a possibility REGARDLESS. Or, you wouldn't make that argument.That you are ALWAYS CHOOSING has NEVER been in DISPUTE, by me.
OF COURSE ALL that CAN CHOOSE ARE CHOOSING. I thought I made this VERY CLEAR when I SAID, and ASKED:
OF COURSE.
Was there ANY reason or NEED to express what is OBVIOUSLY Truly OBVIOUS?
Nope. A very self-serving 'observation'. I have always engaged with people I disagree with who can respond to points I make and make interesting points. In fact most of the people I have contact with in another forum I disagree with politically, but I find they actuallyBUT, as it can be CLEARLY SEEN and OBSERVED, MOST of 'you' CHOOSE what you READ, HEAR, and SEE, NOT so that you do NOT MISS obtaining and gathering the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATION INFORMATION, but so you GAIN and GATHER MORE 'confirmation' on what you ALREADY BELIEVE or ASSUME is true.
Of course it could. I know that you repetitive wall. But I also know, after years of having the seemingly loving and deep position you have, that if I am picky, I get more INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRING INFORMATION ALL THE TIME.If one was Truly OPEN, to NOT MISSING the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATION INFORMATION, then they would ALREADY KNOW that 'that' INFORMATION could come from ABSOLUTELY ANY ONE, from ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, and at ABSOLUTELY ANY time. SO, they would NOT SHUT "themselves" OFF NOR CLOSE "themselves" OFF to, NOR from, ABSOLUTELY ANY thing AT ALL.
ANOTHER one who INSTEAD of just CLARIFYING their position or past CLAIMS, resorts to making these types of remarks. As though it is I who is the STUPID one.
I NEVER made 'that argument' BECAUSE I am NOT 'arguing' FOR nor AGAINST absolutely ANY thing here.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pmSure, because you argue against using foe on the grounds that one may miss the MOST INSPIRATIONAL POST. You don't seem to understand that that is a possibility REGARDLESS. Or, you wouldn't make that argument.That you are ALWAYS CHOOSING has NEVER been in DISPUTE, by me.
OF COURSE ALL that CAN CHOOSE ARE CHOOSING. I thought I made this VERY CLEAR when I SAID, and ASKED:
OF COURSE.
Was there ANY reason or NEED to express what is OBVIOUSLY Truly OBVIOUS?
What are you ACTUALLY SAYING 'Nope' to, EXACTLY?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pmNope. A very self-serving 'observation'. I have always engaged with people I disagree with you can respond to points I make and make interesting points. In fact most of the people I have contract with in another forum I disagree with politically, but I find they actuallyBUT, as it can be CLEARLY SEEN and OBSERVED, MOST of 'you' CHOOSE what you READ, HEAR, and SEE, NOT so that you do NOT MISS obtaining and gathering the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATION INFORMATION, but so you GAIN and GATHER MORE 'confirmation' on what you ALREADY BELIEVE or ASSUME is true.
know better (in that forum) how to have a useful discussion.
I seem to NEED 'what' to be true, EXACTLY?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm You seem to need this be true AND you still can't manage to respond to the main point I made.
Are you NOT NOTICING how you are RE-REPEATING what I have ALREADY CONCLUDED WITH YOU IS OBVIOUS?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm Let me make this VERY CLEAR.
Of course it could. I know that you repetative idiot.If one was Truly OPEN, to NOT MISSING the MOST INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRATION INFORMATION, then they would ALREADY KNOW that 'that' INFORMATION could come from ABSOLUTELY ANY ONE, from ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE, and at ABSOLUTELY ANY time. SO, they would NOT SHUT "themselves" OFF NOR CLOSE "themselves" OFF to, NOR from, ABSOLUTELY ANY thing AT ALL.
So, although you AGREE that what I SAID is ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct, you STILL CALL 'it' a MORONIC POSITION.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm But I also know, after years of having the moronic position you have,
LOL "ALL THE TIME".Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm that if I am picky, I get more INSIGHTFUL and INSPIRING INFORMATION ALL THE TIME.
ARE YOU BLIND, and/or DEAF?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm See, you stupid little, condescending self-righteous p****....you avoid again responding to the main point. You do the same thing. You could be on some racist forum, where everyone generally defends their racism. But you don't go there. You CHOOSE to go to some forums over others. YOu spend more time with people on philosophy forums than on other kinds of forums. You choose to....
LOL "WANT this moral high ground".Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm Well, I already wrote all this. And your choice not to respond to that speaks volumes. You want this moral high ground so it is almost physically impossible for you to respond to the point where you would either have to lie or admit that you to avoid some people and focus on others.
ANOTHER one 'trying to' "justify" THEIR REASONS for NOT wanting to LISTEN to what "another" has to say.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm And it's shit like this that leads people to put you on ignore, back you go.
And, EXACTLY as I was SAYING, and PROVING, 'you' would NEVER KNOW.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 pm I'll probably check in again. or not.
But there are so many people's posts I did not read while responding to your post AND THOSE POSTS I would guess are vastly more likely and certainly not less likely to be THE MOST INSPIRING POST I EVER READ.
Lol, I have been judged lacking by the guy with Delusional Disorder who thinks God has empowered him to be the only human who can understand the Bible.Phil8659 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:36 pm I agree with your assessment of Age, but I also have FlashDanerpants also.
I don't mind getting roughed up, but that pair, in my estimation should not even be allowed on this site.
Nick_A, because he either lies intentionally, or he is just way too stupid. Now, stupidity is not anything to worry about until they are both stupid and vicious. All three in one person is just too much.
Some people act just like a mini-dog who gets all excited because they got a leg to hump.
Gotta take issue with you there FlashDangerpants. Calling Phil810 "the guy with Delusional Disorder who thinks God has empowered him to be the only human who can understand the Bible" makes it sound like he's the only one. This will confuse the other guys with Delusional Disorder who think God has empowered them to be the only human who can understand the BibleFlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:04 pmLol, I have been judged lacking by the guy with Delusional Disorder who thinks God has empowered him to be the only human who can understand the Bible.
Does it narrow things down any further if we highlight his wonderful boast that because of his magnificent IQ his friends have sent their wives to him for extramarital satisfaction?uwot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:17 pmGotta take issue with you there FlashDangerpants. Calling Phil810 "the guy with Delusional Disorder who thinks God has empowered him to be the only human who can understand the Bible" makes it sound like he's the only one. This will confuse the other guys with Delusional Disorder who think God has empowered them to be the only human who can understand the BibleFlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:04 pmLol, I have been judged lacking by the guy with Delusional Disorder who thinks God has empowered him to be the only human who can understand the Bible.