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RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:39 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:55 pm Richard Dawkins has been stripped of his 1996 Humanist of the Year Award for posting the following on Twitter:

Richard Dawkins
@RichardDawkins
In 2015, Rachel Dolezal, a white chapter president of NAACP, was vilified for identifying as Black. Some men choose to identify as women, and some women choose to identify as men. You will be vilified if you deny that they literally are what they identify as.

Discuss.

Discuss?

These idiots are at least entertaining. Dawkins attempted to dance out of his situation:

"I do not intend to disparage trans people," he wrote. "I see that my academic 'Discuss' question has been misconstrued as such and I deplore this. It was also not my intent to ally in any way with Republican bigots in US now exploiting this issue."

The American Humanist Association slammed Mr. Dawkins‘ tweets as insensitive.

Everyone knows it is, "insensitive," to think for oneself and ask questions. "Shut-up and believe what you are told."

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:01 am

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:39 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:55 pm Richard Dawkins has been stripped of his 1996 Humanist of the Year Award for posting the following on Twitter:

Richard Dawkins
@RichardDawkins
In 2015, Rachel Dolezal, a white chapter president of NAACP, was vilified for identifying as Black. Some men choose to identify as women, and some women choose to identify as men. You will be vilified if you deny that they literally are what they identify as.

Discuss.

Discuss?

These idiots are at least entertaining. Dawkins attempted to dance out of his situation:

"I do not intend to disparage trans people," he wrote. "I see that my academic 'Discuss' question has been misconstrued as such and I deplore this. It was also not my intent to ally in any way with Republican bigots in US now exploiting this issue."

The American Humanist Association slammed Mr. Dawkins‘ tweets as insensitive.

Everyone knows it is, "insensitive," to think for oneself and ask questions. "Shut-up and believe what you are told."

There is something about the age we are living in that breaks with sanity, and the rational mind becomes the villain.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:24 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:01 am

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:39 am
These idiots are at least entertaining. Dawkins attempted to dance out of his situation:



Everyone knows it is, "insensitive," to think for oneself and ask questions. "Shut-up and believe what you are told."

There is something about the age we are living in that breaks with sanity, and the rational mind becomes the villain.

Is it really "insensitive" to think for oneself and ask questions? Or is it the case that sometimes when we think for ourselves we can think insensitive thoughts and ask insensitive questions? For example, suppose I were to ask members of Charlie Kirk's surviving family, "why should Charlie Kirk NOT have been shot"? Would that be an "insensitive" question? I mean, at first glance, it seems kind of insensitive to me. But if I refrain from asking it out of some sort of consideration of etiquette does that mean I'm not "thinking for myself"?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:49 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:24 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:01 am

There is something about the age we are living in that breaks with sanity, and the rational mind becomes the villain.

Is it really "insensitive" to think for oneself and ask questions? Or is it the case that sometimes when we think for ourselves we can think insensitive thoughts and ask insensitive questions? For example, suppose I were to ask members of Charlie Kirk's surviving family, "why should Charlie Kirk NOT have been shot"? Would that be an "insensitive" question? I mean, at first glance, it seems kind of insensitive to me. But if I refrain from asking it out of some sort of consideration of etiquette does that mean I'm not "thinking for myself"?

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Do you agree that illegals in America shouldn't be allowed to vote? Do you think transgender surgery of children before their age of reason has set in is child abuse? Listen to the media and the questions that are asked of supposedly rational people, and you have to conclude sanity has left the building. I am going to say something here that I suspect will bring on a storm, but I am old enough to remember where this bizarre mental chaos began. All this irrationality that has become the norm didn't fall from the sky; it followed a process. I lived with a politically active feminist for several years and was privy to the mentality of her peers as they socialized in political meetings, often in my living room. Here is where emotions trump reason. How are we going to bring about the end of the nuclear family? There was just a handful of them at this time when I overheard this. My response was that thought wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that none of you in this room have one? This was close to the beginning of the feminization of Western society. Before I face the storm, let me say this: perhaps it is a necessary transition, social evolution and all that, but this intellectual chaos didn't just come out of nowhere.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:46 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:49 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 4:24 pm

Is it really "insensitive" to think for oneself and ask questions? Or is it the case that sometimes when we think for ourselves we can think insensitive thoughts and ask insensitive questions? For example, suppose I were to ask members of Charlie Kirk's surviving family, "why should Charlie Kirk NOT have been shot"? Would that be an "insensitive" question? I mean, at first glance, it seems kind of insensitive to me. But if I refrain from asking it out of some sort of consideration of etiquette does that mean I'm not "thinking for myself"?

...

Do you agree that illegals in America shouldn't be allowed to vote? Do you think transgender surgery of children before their age of reason has set in is child abuse? Listen to the media and the questions that are asked of supposedly rational people, and you have to conclude sanity has left the building. I am going to say something here that I suspect will bring on a storm, but I am old enough to remember where this bizarre mental chaos began. All this irrationality that has become the norm didn't fall from the sky; it followed a process. I lived with a politically active feminist for several years and was privy to the mentality of her peers as they socialized in political meetings, often in my living room. Here is where emotions trump reason. How are we going to bring about the end of the nuclear family? There was just a handful of them at this time when I overheard this. My response was that thought wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that none of you in this room have one? This was close to the beginning of the feminization of Western society. Before I face the storm, let me say this: perhaps it is a necessary transition, social evolution and all that, but this intellectual chaos didn't just come out of nowhere.

I don't believe Illegal Immigrants can legally vote in any state in the US, especially not in federal elections most of all. I agree that the transgender issue has gone beyond reasonable discussion boundaries for most of us. And are you suggesting that the feminist movement is responsible for the onset of irrationality in our society, taking the form of a "feminization" of men?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:35 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:46 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:49 pm

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Do you agree that illegals in America shouldn't be allowed to vote? Do you think transgender surgery of children before their age of reason has set in is child abuse? Listen to the media and the questions that are asked of supposedly rational people, and you have to conclude sanity has left the building. I am going to say something here that I suspect will bring on a storm, but I am old enough to remember where this bizarre mental chaos began. All this irrationality that has become the norm didn't fall from the sky; it followed a process. I lived with a politically active feminist for several years and was privy to the mentality of her peers as they socialized in political meetings, often in my living room. Here is where emotions trump reason. How are we going to bring about the end of the nuclear family? There was just a handful of them at this time when I overheard this. My response was that thought wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that none of you in this room have one? This was close to the beginning of the feminization of Western society. Before I face the storm, let me say this: perhaps it is a necessary transition, social evolution and all that, but this intellectual chaos didn't just come out of nowhere.

I don't believe Illegal Immigrants can legally vote in any state in the US, especially not in federal elections most of all. I agree that the transgender issue has gone beyond reasonable discussion boundaries for most of us. And are you suggesting that the feminist movement is responsible for the onset of irrationality in our society, taking the form of a "feminization" of men?

Men are naturally whores to the pleasing of women, and indeed, today it is politically incorrect not to please them. The illegal immigrants voting, it does happen, but stating the question as if it's a reasonable question is a sign of intellectual decay. Perhaps I, as a Canadian, should be able to vote in American elections; you do see the absurdity of it all. There is a generational lag in a human systematic process where it is not easy to see how what is today came about, and think tanks with an agenda count upon it. In the media, however, if you pay attention to the absurd questions posed as something reasonable to ask, it is just frightening; the DUH factor owns us. My generation played a huge part in fucking things up with the destruction of traditional values, with no understanding of what to replace them with; it just grew from there, and it seems there is no way home.

This has been long in the making, this feminization of the West; much of the world is in tears of laughter, saying What, do you identify as? There is an awakening in the male population today in realizing that with today's values and slanted laws, for men, marriage is a losing proposition, and it is more than probable that if you stick to the script in your later years, you will end up living in a one-bedroom apartment. She has the house and the kids for her comfort. All she has to say after years of building a life together is that she is unhappy, she's outgrown you, she needs to find herself, and you, my friend, are totally screwed over from every which way the wind blows. The laws support this. You see a little more in the way of discussions about males needing an entirely different mental framework in dealing with this new reality, still politically incorrect, but men are starting to wise up. What the future holds, I don't know, but males need much more foresight than they used to. Males need to give up the romantic programming first and foremost; it is all very practical indeed!

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:57 am

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:35 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:46 pm

I don't believe Illegal Immigrants can legally vote in any state in the US, especially not in federal elections most of all. I agree that the transgender issue has gone beyond reasonable discussion boundaries for most of us. And are you suggesting that the feminist movement is responsible for the onset of irrationality in our society, taking the form of a "feminization" of men?

Men are naturally whores to the pleasing of women, and indeed, today it is politically incorrect not to please them. The illegal immigrants voting, it does happen, but stating the question as if it's a reasonable question is a sign of intellectual decay. Perhaps I, as a Canadian, should be able to vote in American elections; you do see the absurdity of it all. There is a generational lag in a human systematic process where it is not easy to see how what is today came about, and think tanks with an agenda count upon it. In the media, however, if you pay attention to the absurd questions posed as something reasonable to ask, it is just frightening; the DUH factor owns us. My generation played a huge part in fucking things up with the destruction of traditional values, with no understanding of what to replace them with; it just grew from there, and it seems there is no way home.

This has been long in the making, this feminization of the West; much of the world is in tears of laughter, saying What, do you identify as? There is an awakening in the male population today in realizing that with today's values and slanted laws, for men, marriage is a losing proposition, and it is more than probable that if you stick to the script in your later years, you will end up living in a one-bedroom apartment. She has the house and the kids for her comfort. All she has to say after years of building a life together is that she is unhappy, she's outgrown you, she needs to find herself, and you, my friend, are totally screwed over from every which way the wind blows. The laws support this. You see a little more in the way of discussions about males needing an entirely different mental framework in dealing with this new reality, still politically incorrect, but men are starting to wise up. What the future holds, I don't know, but males need much more foresight than they used to. Males need to give up the romantic programming first and foremost; it is all very practical indeed!

You nailed it...it is politically incorrect not to please women.

The other points are correct...but how you worded the first portion I have never heard in that way before. 100% True.

Women will accuse men of misogyny if a man does not go out of his way to please their every little whim.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:49 pmbut this intellectual chaos didn't just come out of nowhere.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:36 am

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:49 pmbut this intellectual chaos didn't just come out of nowhere.

It's always been that way. Such chaotic energy is the nature of Shakti. Now that women earn outside the home and have a voice, folks get to hear more of those voices venturing into the Shiva realm. Shiva/Shakti is within each person, however congregating Shaktis verbally compound the energy.

All men need to do is research the characteristics of Shiva in the context of Shiva/Shakti, then be mindful of those natural characteristics within oneself, and display them. Women are naturally understanding of that, attracted to that, and in fact need that reinforcement for their own balance.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:09 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:57 am

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:35 am

Men are naturally whores to the pleasing of women, and indeed, today it is politically incorrect not to please them. The illegal immigrants voting, it does happen, but stating the question as if it's a reasonable question is a sign of intellectual decay. Perhaps I, as a Canadian, should be able to vote in American elections; you do see the absurdity of it all. There is a generational lag in a human systematic process where it is not easy to see how what is today came about, and think tanks with an agenda count upon it. In the media, however, if you pay attention to the absurd questions posed as something reasonable to ask, it is just frightening; the DUH factor owns us. My generation played a huge part in fucking things up with the destruction of traditional values, with no understanding of what to replace them with; it just grew from there, and it seems there is no way home.

This has been long in the making, this feminization of the West; much of the world is in tears of laughter, saying What, do you identify as? There is an awakening in the male population today in realizing that with today's values and slanted laws, for men, marriage is a losing proposition, and it is more than probable that if you stick to the script in your later years, you will end up living in a one-bedroom apartment. She has the house and the kids for her comfort. All she has to say after years of building a life together is that she is unhappy, she's outgrown you, she needs to find herself, and you, my friend, are totally screwed over from every which way the wind blows. The laws support this. You see a little more in the way of discussions about males needing an entirely different mental framework in dealing with this new reality, still politically incorrect, but men are starting to wise up. What the future holds, I don't know, but males need much more foresight than they used to. Males need to give up the romantic programming first and foremost; it is all very practical indeed!

You nailed it...it is politically incorrect not to please women.

The other points are correct...but how you worded the first portion I have never heard in that way before. 100% True.

Women will accuse men of misogyny if a man does not go out of his way to please their every little whim.

I am surprised there is not much more material on this site about the alienation of males and being turned off chasing women. They see what has happened to older men. The odds of a relationship working out are really poor, even if it does for a few years. A great many young guys now feel the deck is stacked against them. The West in general has turned into an irrational shit hole, and much of the world is laughing at us.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:13 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:09 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:57 am

You nailed it...it is politically incorrect not to please women.

The other points are correct...but how you worded the first portion I have never heard in that way before. 100% True.

Women will accuse men of misogyny if a man does not go out of his way to please their every little whim.

I am surprised there is not much more material on this site about the alienation of males and being turned off chasing women. They see what has happened to older men. The odds of a relationship working out are really poor, even if it does for a few years. A great many young guys now feel the deck is stacked against them. The West in general has turned into an irrational shit hole, and much of the world is laughing at us.

Political correctness....as you said very accurately. Part of being political correct is a tribal mentality, to be politically correct is to fit in. People fear exclusion from the tribe due to needs for safety, security and identity at the expense of awareness not knowing that if they just "sucked up" the inconvenience of being true, for a short time, they would be more at peace.


My experience of relationships withwomen, and I mean the full spectrum of relationships being friends/family/romance/sexual, was at best case it is like taking care of a child, always having to entertain/stimulate/provide a mask of security/confidence/humor for them, worst case it was perpetual drama, negativity and feeling drained.

Generally women are just not supportive, nurturing nor responsible for themselves or the other in a relationship. As a man you do not even know if you are going to have the security that if you lay it all on the line for your family if you are even going to keep them due to potential divorce when she either remeets an ex on social media or just gets inevitably bored.

And then they wonder why men leave or cheat.

Now I am assuming someone is going to give "hate" for what I said...but the truth is I don't care. Been through the fire and I am not afraid of it...at all.

I council young men all the time to go out and date, with the intention of finding a life long parter/spouse, but to do so with the awareness of how the current chips are stacked and that while it is possible they may find a good women the odds are extremely low and it will probably not happen...but to try anyhow. Worst case scenario they are content with being single because "they put it out there" and know what it is like from experience.

The truth is, as a man, we are always labeled the bad guys unless we please women continually. Any form of masculinity is labeled toxic. So with the continual punishment, over absolutely nothing but ideals, why should we care?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:34 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:13 pm

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:09 am

I am surprised there is not much more material on this site about the alienation of males and being turned off chasing women. They see what has happened to older men. The odds of a relationship working out are really poor, even if it does for a few years. A great many young guys now feel the deck is stacked against them. The West in general has turned into an irrational shit hole, and much of the world is laughing at us.

Political correctness....as you said very accurately. Part of being political correct is a tribal mentality, to be politically correct is to fit in. People fear exclusion from the tribe due to needs for safety, security and identity at the expense of awareness not knowing that if they just "sucked up" the inconvenience of being true, for a short time, they would be more at peace.


My experience of relationships withwomen, and I mean the full spectrum of relationships being friends/family/romance/sexual, was at best case it is like taking care of a child, always having to entertain/stimulate/provide a mask of security/confidence/humor for them, worst case it was perpetual drama, negativity and feeling drained.

Generally women are just not supportive, nurturing nor responsible for themselves or the other in a relationship. As a man you do not even know if you are going to have the security that if you lay it all on the line for your family if you are even going to keep them due to potential divorce when she either remeets an ex on social media or just gets inevitably bored.

And then they wonder why men leave or cheat.

Now I am assuming someone is going to give "hate" for what I said...but the truth is I don't care. Been through the fire and I am not afraid of it...at all.

I council young men all the time to go out and date, with the intention of finding a life long parter/spouse, but to do so with the awareness of how the current chips are stacked and that while it is possible they may find a good women the odds are extremely low and it will probably not happen...but to try anyhow. Worst case scenario they are content with being single because "they put it out there" and know what it is like from experience.

The truth is, as a man, we are always labeled the bad guys unless we please women continually. Any form of masculinity is labeled toxic. So with the continual punishment, over absolutely nothing but ideals, why should we care?

The culture is highly feminized, including its institutions and laws. Women's power is in their bodies, and this has always worked to manipulate the males in their lives, making the most of the males' pathetic needs. You could say in many cases their sexuality has been weaponized. Certainly, women have not had it easy historically, but neither have the males. Look back and see where the past has always been harsher than the present. Women have claimed victimhood, however, and along with the previously mentioned tools in the feminist grab bag, victimhood is nuclear.