Is transgender something to get upset about?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why? are you so fearful that he could influence them for the good, as opposed to your influence to the negative?

So he works in a field where NDA is in effect, and you disagree with that policy.

What is NDA? Oh, and of course his assertions aren't 'negative' at all. You need to look up the word. You are so biased you must walk around practically horizontal. Funny that dalek was thanking you and IK for your 'support'. He probably thinks your poop doesn't stink either.

[Harbal]

It's Harbal's fault.

Bad Harbal! BAD Harbal!

woof...woof

Henry, when I compared you to a mad dog it wasn't to amuse you. You should at least have the decency to pretend to be offended.

[Greta]

Immanuel, please enjoy pretending to have "won" the game. Every point you make is invalid in this one and it's not worth bothering with a rather dull topic, albeit a sad one where once again the empowered take an easy swipe at the weak.

[Dalek Prime]

I best not read any of this crap. Thanks for the warning, veg.

The only person this remotely effects and matters to is those who are transgendered. And each case is different. Never suppose, though you may know lots of then, that you know all of them, or their minds.

And most of all? Mind your own fucking business!!! It's not your concern!!! You deserve less than zero say in what happens to me or my body. Is that understood and clear enough for any fucktard to comprehend?

And let me make another thing perfectly clear. It's not my perception of myself that is the problem. It is the perception of others regarding my changes, when they impact negatively on me, or interfere with my life, that is the problem.

What I most want you to walk away from all this with, is, it's not your business. And if you can't say anything nice, shut it, and mind your own.

It's your right to get upset over anything your little hearts' desire. But your right to get upset or act on it ends where my transgendered body begins. Forget that at your peril.

[Greta]

Mind your own [jolly] business!!!

Exactly. It never ceases to amaze me how many people want to stick their shnozz into others' private business. Aside from religious superstition, I personally blame obsessive extroversion (in my experience social neediness tends to be is closely connected with religiosity).

There is an increasing inability in society to comprehend what privacy is about. It's about freedom.

It's said that babies do not understand that they are separate and different to their mothers. It seems that many extroverts today, especially in the US, are so deeply dependent on social contact that they can't make an appropriate separation between self and others, and thus feel entitled to interfere. It's a terrible problem for disempowered groups in their sights.

[Immanuel Can]

Immanuel, please enjoy pretending to have "won" the game. Every point you make is invalid in this one and it's not worth bothering with a rather dull topic, albeit a sad one where once again the empowered take an easy swipe at the weak.

It was you who said this was a "game." I never framed it that way, so I'm afraid you'll just have to take your own counsel on that one. I have no use for it.

But you're right about two things: Liberals treat it like a "game," and it's certainly a case of them,"the empowered," taking "a swipe at the weak." Liberals use the mentally ill. They use them as a staging opportunity. For they want to preen themselves as "open-minded," "inclusive," and "generous of heart," and they don't care who they allow to suffer if they do. So in order to keep up their "self-image" or their "public face," they advocate encouraging suicidal, gender-dysphoric people to physiologically butcher themselves, or even continue to kill themselves.

Lovely. So much for the compassion of the Left! "By their deeds you shall know them."

[Harbal]

For they want to preen themselves as "open-minded," "inclusive," and "generous of heart,"

You should take a good long look at yourself, Immanuel.

[uwot]

For they want to preen themselves as "open-minded," "inclusive," and "generous of heart,"

You should take a good long look at yourself, Immanuel.

That's exactly what he is doing, Harbal. It's called projection, he can't deal with his own vanity, so he simply attributes it to others.

[uwot]

If society stopped being neurotic abut sex and gender tomorrow,...

That's the funniest line ever! Our society permits and celebrates practically everything...permissiveness is the one thing we never seem to lack. Heck, the quickest way to become a celebrity around here is to become a known deviant. We've got Pride parades in the streets, Madonna offering sexual favours to everybody who votes the right way, and Smiley Virus riding a wrecking ball naked, and our "woman of the year" is a man. The one thing you can't accuse us of being is a bunch of stuffy Victorians...heck, we made a trans-man out to be "woman of the year." I doubt you can get more undiscriminating than that. Hilarious.

So I take it you approve.

It's not a mental problem....

And you know this because....feeling! Not a statistic, not a fact, not a shred of evidence....but because of a feeling, apparently.

Just like god.

[Harbal]

That's exactly what he is doing, Harbal. It's called projection, he can't deal with his own vanity, so he simply attributes it to others.

Do you think it's some kind of mental illness or simply a gigantic character flaw?

[Immanuel Can]

For they want to preen themselves as "open-minded," "inclusive," and "generous of heart,"

You should take a good long look at yourself, Immanuel.

Well, here are some basic facts.

1. Almost half of the people who have gender dysphoria are attempting suicide.

2. Neither normalizing the behaviour nor sex-reassignment surgery has ever statistically improved that rate.

3. Liberals want to encourage that condition.

I want to know why. Why are Liberals so uncaring about whether or not self-loathing, mentally-ill people get any help and relief or not? And why do they raise this issue constantly, since they seem totally uninterested in these plain facts?

Charitable Answer: because Liberals have an ignorant but well-meant prejudice against telling anybody what to do, and can't tell the difference between mental illness and "choices," even when half of the people are trying to kill themselves.

Other Answer: because helping people who suffer from gender-dysphoria is not what Liberals do. What they do instead is self-present as "loving," "open" and "compassionate," in a superficial way, and take the kudos for themselves; but the truth is that they have no real compassion at all, and are not actually interested in helping the mentally-ill: they just want to be seen-to-be-helping the mentally ill.

[uwot]

That's exactly what he is doing, Harbal. It's called projection, he can't deal with his own vanity, so he simply attributes it to others.

Do you think it's some kind of mental illness or simply a gigantic character flaw?

Sorry to get serious, but rather than illness, I think it is just a coping strategy. Frankly, if you were Mr Can, wouldn't you be in denial?

[uwot]

Well, here are some basic facts.

1. Almost half of the people who have gender dysphoria are attempting suicide.

2. Neither normalizing the behaviour nor sex-reassignment surgery has ever statistically improved that rate.

3. Liberals want to encourage that condition.

Facts, eh? Then you will be able to cite your sources. Who did the research? Which journals published the findings?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Personally i don't give a flying rats what Jesus looked like. That said, Jews tend to procreate within their own faith, i'm not aware of them making a concerted effort to breed with the more 'white' types, and they appear to be overall extremely 'white'.

The point is that they are white because they are not from Palestine, Judea, or Israel. Jews come from everywhere but. They come from all over the world; US, Europe, Russia.

You still get people who look like the stereotypical jewish. I mean, how could Dustin Hoffman be anything but jewish?
It does get a bit ridiculous when American Swedish pink-piggy types with no religious or cultural involvement, and only a tenuous link to some relative in the past call themselves 'jewish'. It makes the word meaningless.

I agree there is a Jewish look. However Arthur Koerslers' thesis is that never never came from Palestine, but that the diaspora is mainly from the Empire of the Khazar's. Stuck between the Christians in the west and the Muslims to the east, the entire Khazar Empire converted to Judaism from the 8thC to the 10thC.

These guys are not Jews.

[Dalek Prime]

For they want to preen themselves as "open-minded," "inclusive," and "generous of heart,"

You should take a good long look at yourself, Immanuel.

Well, here are some basic facts.

1. Almost half of the people who have gender dysphoria are attempting suicide.

2. Neither normalizing the behaviour nor sex-reassignment surgery has ever statistically improved that rate.

3. Liberals want to encourage that condition.

I want to know why. Why are Liberals so uncaring about whether or not self-loathing, mentally-ill people get any help and relief or not? And why do they raise this issue constantly, since they seem totally uninterested in these plain facts?

Charitable Answer: because Liberals have an ignorant but well-meant prejudice against telling anybody what to do, and can't tell the difference between mental illness and "choices," even when half of the people are trying to kill themselves.

Other Answer: because helping people who suffer from gender-dysphoria is not what Liberals do. What they do instead is self-present as "loving," "open" and "compassionate," in a superficial way, and take the kudos for themselves; but the truth is that they have no real compassion at all, and are not actually interested in helping the mentally-ill: they just want to be seen-to-be-helping the mentally ill.

Do me a favour; don't help me. All I'm telling you as a person who has zero say or business in my adult affairs, is to stay out of them. Is that a difficulty, IC? Henry? Anyone else? And do not talk around me, when I am present on this thread. Address the only transgendered person on this thread.

If you do not feel you need to stay out of another adult's affairs, rest assured I will stick my nose in yours, and you best not hypocritically whine about it when I do.