Are Guns the Problem?

[Arising_uk]

Did you idiots ever think of getting a life or at least addressing the subject of this thread, "Are Guns the Problem?" The answer to both questions is a resounding NO!

You're right. The problem is the American love of violence and the hard-on they get from having the power of life and death in the house. Add to that the myths about themselves and you have a fairly intractable problem but no worries as its still a very young nation. You'd have thought the Civil War would have curbed their love but hey ho. Still, given the origin of the nation was the slaughter of the relatively unarmed and it was built upon the backs of slaves I guess not much more could be expected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSmr7vXUgQ

[Godfree]

Did you idiots ever think of getting a life or at least addressing the subject of this thread, "Are Guns the Problem?" The answer to both questions is a resounding NO!

I will try and make this as simple as I can ,
Are Nuclear bombs the problem with Iran ,,??? yes
are chemical weapons the problem in Syria,??? yes
why is it that america can see that those guns are too big and too much for those people to have ,,IF ,
we are to feel safe , here in our illegally obtained West ,
so why are they so stupid as to not see that guns are too much power in the hands of any idiot ,
if you have a society with millions of guns ,
it's easier to find one unprotected , one to steal ,
reality is , it is fear ,
america is a bunch of chickens , scardy cats ,
so frightened of all the possibilities that they are actually out there in the world trying to stop them all,
the righteous fell they must have the right to defend themselves against these evil doers ,
and you still feel like the pioneers that you have the right to assume authority ,
that your western christian morals and values give you the mandate to control others ,
bullshit , your christian insanity gives you jack shit mate ,
you don't have the right to tell other countries how to defend themselves ,
you do have a right as part of an international group to ban certain weapons and inforce that ban ,
so yes by all means get the chemical weapons out of Syria ,
but do I think you have the right to tell Iran not to develop nuclear bombs ,
no I don't , I don't think you have any right at all ,
but you do have the right to get rid of most of the guns in america ,
to stop the endless mass killings america is becoming known for ,
does that sound like any other insane behavior you know ,
like suicide bombing , the madness of the middle east ,,, the madness in america ,
it's all the same madness to me , religion , guns and the righteous desperately dieing to be right ,,???

[bobevenson]

Did you idiots ever think of getting a life or at least addressing the subject of this thread, "Are Guns the Problem?" The answer to both questions is a resounding NO!

You're right. The problem is the American love of violence and the hard-on they get from having the power of life and death in the house. Add to that the myths about themselves and you have a fairly intractable problem but no worries as its still a very young nation. You'd have thought the Civil War would have curbed their love but hey ho. Still, given the origin of the nation was the slaughter of the relatively unarmed and it was built upon the backs of slaves I guess not much more could be expected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSmr7vXUgQ

The dead giveaway was your stupid link to that fat socialist slob Michael Moore. Let's see now, where did the pathetic and violent activity of dog fighting begin? Oh, yes, that pathetic and violent old England that some years earlier invaded the USA, killing and maiming so many decent Americans!

[bobevenson]

I will try and make this as simple as I can.

Those guys with the butterfly nets will also try to make it as simple as they can if you cooperate with them.

[Arising_uk]

... Oh, yes, that pathetic and violent old England that some years earlier invaded the USA, killing and maiming so many decent Americans!

We pretty much founded it you loon. Which part of your history did you miss where you were told that it was a colony of the United Kingdom? Oh! Is this because your ancestors weren't actually around at the time? Still, once again here we are with your obsessions.
p.s.
Thats the trouble with the Yank, a complete inability to laugh at oneself.

[bobevenson]

... Oh, yes, that pathetic and violent old England that some years earlier invaded the USA, killing and maiming so many decent Americans!

We pretty much founded it you loon. Which part of your history did you miss where you were told that it was a colony of the United Kingdom? Oh! Is this because your ancestors weren't actually around at the time? Still, once again here we are with your obsessions.
p.s.
Thats the trouble with the Yank, a complete inability to laugh at oneself.

We may have trouble laughing at ourselves since there is nothing to laugh at, but at least we can look at ourselves in the mirror.

[henry quirk]

"Are Nuclear bombs the problem with Iran ,,??? yes are chemical weapons the problem in Syria,??? yes"

No.

The problem is the folks willing to use the atomics and chemicals.

Tools make a job easier...tools never do the work without a tool user.

[Arising_uk]

We may have trouble laughing at ourselves since there is nothing to laugh at, but at least we can look at ourselves in the mirror.

And see only what you wish to see. But its not 'we' Yank as some Americans have shown themselves to have a fine sense of humour.

[bobevenson]

We may have trouble laughing at ourselves since there is nothing to laugh at, but at least we can look at ourselves in the mirror.

And see only what you wish to see. But its not 'we' Yank as some Americans have shown themselves to have a fine sense of humour.

Of course Americans have a fine sense of humor, which we prove by laughing at Europeans every day.

[uwot]

"Are Nuclear bombs the problem with Iran ,,??? yes are chemical weapons the problem in Syria,??? yes"

No.

The problem is the folks willing to use the atomics and chemicals.

Really? How much of a problem is someone willing to use a nuclear bomb, but who doesn't have one?

Tools make a job easier...tools never do the work without a tool user.

The job of certain tools is to kill people; that is the problem.

[Ginkgo]

Tools make a job easier...tools never do the work without a tool user.

If misuse of equipment is the problem then the normal procedure is to restrict the access and put in place procedures that monitor its use.

[henry quirk]

HA!

Who said shit about 'misuse'?

Atomics, chemical weapons, guns: if your side uses 'em, you say YAY! If the other side uses 'em, you say BOO!

Friggin' eye of the beholder.

If you stop someone with a bullet: it's good.

If someone stops you with a bullet: it's bad.

*shrug*

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"How much of a problem is someone willing to use a nuclear bomb, but who doesn't have one?"

I don't know: let's ask Syria.

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"The job of certain tools is to kill people; that is the problem."

No.

Turning it around: How much of a problem is someone who has atoimcs, but never uses them?

[Ginkgo]

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"The job of certain tools is to kill people; that is the problem."

No.

Turning it around: How much of a problem is someone who has atoimcs, but never uses them?

I mentioned misuse because it is relevant to the issue.

Yes, atomic weapons are a real problem if there are not enough safeguards in place so that foreign governments,organizations and people with an intent of misuse can get their hands on them. Not all governments that have atomic weapons or are in the process of developing atomic weapons have these safeguards in place for one reason or another. It is possible and probable that such weapons can fall into the hands of the wrong people. So yes, it can be a real problem.

[bobevenson]

Again, people who misuse guns are the problem, so gun control laws are pointless and only appeal to idiots who think, "Well, we've got to do something!"

[uwot]

"How much of a problem is someone willing to use a nuclear bomb, but who doesn't have one?"

I don't know: let's ask Syria.

#

"The job of certain tools is to kill people; that is the problem."

No.

Turning it around: How much of a problem is someone who has atoimcs, but never uses them?

I don't know, but we can't ask America.