The Philosophy Discussion Forum

The irony is that nothing was gained by those three Republican-initiated wars but investment opportunities for international capitalists and magnificent national debt. Nothing changed at the kitchen table or in the gas tank. If anything, we got to be stabbed or peed on by muslim immigrants and homegrown jihadist vape shop owners because of our meddling in the middle-east.

The Right has an interesting internal conflict. It has to square its imperialism with its professed conservative interests for its own country. When it declares a war or invades somewhere, things at home become harder for the working class. Then what good is imperialism for the people of the conservative republican state?

Discuss!

Back in the day, Imperialism worked. You'd plunder the shit out of the people you conquered and annex their territory. Today, we get nothing from it but debt.

A more reasonable invasion would be Canada, Mexico, Brazil... countries we have a direct pipeline to that aren't across a fuckin ocean. It's not like it used to be. You can't land a few ships of soldiers and take over whole cities with em like back in 1700.

But then there's a good lesson to learn from Putin, too. Nations will unite and supply your enemy with arms and money, making it harder for you to conquer the fuckers (Ukranians).

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 6:41 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:02 pm

Aren't you the bossy mean man.

Talk about the secular echoing the biblical ... Holy mackerel! would have been a tempting tasty during a forty day fast, but nothing tastes as good as revelation.

Immorality is immorality, and no one should aid and assist it. You do in supporting Trump. There's no excuse, Walker. Trump is as corrupt as they come. The world would be a better, more peaceful, less corrupt place without people like Trump in a position of extreme power, and then you supporting Trump. It's a simple statement of indisputable fact. It's something you can correct by changing in ways that are not beyond your ability. But you refuse to. All the dodging and hand-waving in the world is not going to change the facts of Trump's behavior. No excuses, Walker. If anyone deserves Hell, it's Trump, and by extension, so do you if you don't change your tune. But that's your choice. If there's a just God in this world, then you may get what you deserve.

Now, just you hold on, Gary. A few months ago, you were hollerin' about how unfair eternal hell is and how god is an asshole. Now, you're condemning Walker to that very same hell you once so passionately raised your fist at.

Anyway, here's the logical problem god is faced with in this eternal hell scenario. If a soul is like a human being but without a body, then the capacity for remorse and making resolutions to 'never do x again' exists for the soul in hell. This means that despite the possibility of rehabilitation on the part of the remorseful soul, the sentence will never be revoked.

On the other hand, if a soul is not like a body and incapable of sensory and cognitive suffering, then there is no point in punishing it, and hell would be superfluous.

Therefore, the christian god is incompetent or a sadist. We can't imagine a sadistic and incompetent god (that don't even sound right). Therefore, the christian god does not exist.

Now see, i would dare a god to do that to me. But I've been doing shit like this since i was a young reprobate. Challenging authority to punish me so i could endure it and laugh at em. When they put me in seg at Holly Hill when i was 12 and felt that somehow i was not insane like the other kids and didn't belong there, i threw a fookin' chair through the acoustic ceiling tiles. Up, bro. I threw the chair up. Not across the room. It was awesome. The glass was unbreakable, the walls were concrete. Think, Prom. The only thing that could suffer a collision with a flying chair is the ceiling! Let's go!

The problem with authority structures is that they're networked in a way that forces them to share responsibility across the board in the making of the reprobate to-be anarchist illegalist.

The over-disciplinary and abusive father and the badly funded secondary redirectional schools that put the kid in physical danger are intimately related. Dad beats the kid > kid ends up in reject school for bad behavior > rejects threaten kid at school > kid takes knife to school to defend himself against rejects not controlled by staff > kid gets expelled and sent to Holly Hill > kid throws chair through ceiling.

Even if this trajectory leads me straight to hell, shall i walk it with smug satisfaction and pride.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 11:13 am Now, just you hold on, Gary. A few months ago, you were hollerin' about how unfair eternal hell is and how god is an asshole. Now, you're condemning Walker to that very same hell you once so passionately raised your fist at.

Unlike Walker, I don't support criminally corrupt leaders. I would hope that if there's a God, then God would be more concerned about those who support lying, deceit, and destruction than those who simply don't worship at church. If God thinks it's OK to support and promote a corrupt person like Trump but not OK to refuse to worship in church, then I'd say God is not a good God. I don't worship Gods who aren't more benevolent than an average human being. Does that seem reasonable to you?

The day of judgment for Walker will come, Gary, and no more will he spin his webs of deception. For the Lord knoweth all men's hearts.

Go now with god, my son, and pray for Walker.