Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?

[accelafine]

Fair enough. Let's just say excessive killing, then. I'd call it mass murder but murder is unjustified killing and we all know Israel is justified in killing as many Palestinians as they want.

I suppose that's why they sent out warnings in advance for civilians to leave certains areas, even escorting them out. Pretty strange sort of a 'genocide'. And why did they need to escort them out? Because HAMAS was trying to prevent them from leaving. Hamas is killing Gazans for accepting aid. It doesn't give a shit about them. It doesn't matter what Israel does anyway. For some reason fuckturds like pisspot are going to hate it no matter what. You only have to look at the way anti-Israel 'protests' started BEFORE Israel had lifted a finger against Gaza. It has all been organised well in advance. There's A LOT of money behind the rent-a-mob 'protests'.

There's a lot of backlash against European colonialism. I am European in descent. Now we in the US are trying to limit immigration for the very same reasons that indigenous natives fought us. Because we were taking over. A sudden land grab is something none of us wish to happen to ourselves, therefore, we all have to be reasonable and discourage blatant violations, unless we wish to incriminate ourselves--set ourselves or our progeny up for similar treatment.

What 'sudden land grab'? Do you know ANYTHING about this topic??? I'm not here to educate you. It's too exhausting. Do it yourself.

[Gary Childress]

I suppose that's why they sent out warnings in advance for civilians to leave certains areas, even escorting them out. Pretty strange sort of a 'genocide'. And why did they need to escort them out? Because HAMAS was trying to prevent them from leaving. Hamas is killing Gazans for accepting aid. It doesn't give a shit about them. It doesn't matter what Israel does anyway. For some reason fuckturds like pisspot are going to hate it no matter what. You only have to look at the way anti-Israel 'protests' started BEFORE Israel had lifted a finger against Gaza. It has all been organised well in advance. There's A LOT of money behind the rent-a-mob 'protests'.

There's a lot of backlash against European colonialism. I am European in descent. Now we in the US are trying to limit immigration for the very same reasons that indigenous natives fought us. Because we were taking over. A sudden land grab is something none of us wish to happen to ourselves, therefore, we all have to be reasonable and discourage blatant violations, unless we wish to incriminate ourselves--set ourselves or our progeny up for similar treatment.

What 'sudden land grab'? Do you know ANYTHING about this topic??? I'm not here to educate you. It's too exhausting. Do it yourself.

As far as I'm aware, there are proposals put out there by members of the Israeli cabinet that involve removing Gazans from their land. Whether it's buying them out or through other means, many of them rest on the fact that Gaza has largely been polverised for about a year and a half and turned into uninhabitable no man's land. Trump has apparently proposed developing Gaza into a resort town and shipping Gazans off the Egypt or other countries. I suppose Netanyahu must have suggested to him some lucrative deals. Trump is a businessman at heart and seems to be easily drawn by profitable "deals" more so than conscience.

[Pistolero]

The female is a Zionist.
More precisely, she's pro-US...and the US is a Zionist proxy.

She believes in diversity....meaning melting pot, miscegenation, Brazilificaiton of humanity.
She's a hedonistic feminist, but in her mind she's a humanitarian.

Females love diversity.....it makes their reproductive role easier.
sperm samplers....shoppers.

She despises anything that puts a limit to her feminine sexual powers, i.e., paternalism, because these are the only feminine powers.

This is why she is so misandrist.
All she has is her sex.

[accelafine]

There's a lot of backlash against European colonialism. I am European in descent. Now we in the US are trying to limit immigration for the very same reasons that indigenous natives fought us. Because we were taking over. A sudden land grab is something none of us wish to happen to ourselves, therefore, we all have to be reasonable and discourage blatant violations, unless we wish to incriminate ourselves--set ourselves or our progeny up for similar treatment.

What 'sudden land grab'? Do you know ANYTHING about this topic??? I'm not here to educate you. It's too exhausting. Do it yourself.

As far as I'm aware, there are proposals put out there by members of the Israeli cabinet that involve removing Gazans from their land. Whether it's buying them out or through other means, many of them rest on the fact that Gaza has largely been polverised for about a year and a half and turned into uninhabitable no man's land. Trump has apparently proposed developing Gaza into a resort town and shipping Gazans off the Egypt or other countries. I suppose Netanyahu must have suggested to him some lucrative deals. Trump is a businessman at heart and seems to be easily drawn by profitable "deals" more so than conscience.

It actually belongs to Israel anyway you twit. They would have had every right to evict those squatters after the 6 day war. Unfortunately no muslim country would have them. Egypt built a massive wall to keep them out (which no one ever mentions) so Israel has been stuck with them ever since and putting up with their endless atrocities against Israelis.
As for 'European colonialsim'. Umm. Humans colonise. It's what they do. That's why we are on every square inch of the planet excluding Antarctica but there are even humans polluting that pristine place too, so don't throw your woke buzzwords at me.
Ever noticed how there are so many muslim countries? How do you think that came about? How many Jewish ones are there?

[Gary Childress]

What 'sudden land grab'? Do you know ANYTHING about this topic??? I'm not here to educate you. It's too exhausting. Do it yourself.

As far as I'm aware, there are proposals put out there by members of the Israeli cabinet that involve removing Gazans from their land. Whether it's buying them out or through other means, many of them rest on the fact that Gaza has largely been polverised for about a year and a half and turned into uninhabitable no man's land. Trump has apparently proposed developing Gaza into a resort town and shipping Gazans off the Egypt or other countries. I suppose Netanyahu must have suggested to him some lucrative deals. Trump is a businessman at heart and seems to be easily drawn by profitable "deals" more so than conscience.

It actually belongs to Israel anyway you twit. They would have had every right to evict those squatters after the 6 day war. Unfortunately no muslim country would have them. Egypt built a massive wall to keep them out (which no one ever mentions) so Israel has been stuck with them ever since and putting up with their endless atrocities against Israelis.
As for 'European colonialsim'. Umm. Humans colonise. It's what they do. That's why we are on every square inch of the planet excluding Antarctica but there are even humans polluting that pristine place too, so don't throw your woke buzzwords at me.
Every noticed how there are so many muslim countries? How do you think that came about?

By force of arms it belongs to Israel. However, I don't know that it's a good idea to say that force alone gives someone a right to land that another person is standing on and has lived on for decades.

As far as Muslim countries, why do you think there are so many Muslim countries? I mean, I really don't know. It seems to be gaining popularity in the 3rd world, perhaps, because we of European ancestry have been pushing others around for a long time. And as far as I'm aware, Islam doesn't necessarily stand for war but it does insist that people stand up for themselves. So perhaps that is what 3rd world countries need to do, stand up for themselves. Because if they turn the other cheek then we Europeans will simply take as much as we can get. I mean, this seems to be the view that has been propagating in the world since Bush and Clinton's involvement in world politics. I wish it wasn't but those people were reckless in foreign policy. They were guided by the myth of American exceptionalism, the belief that America is somehow special and more just and right than many other nations, even ones with less militarist records.

[accelafine]

As far as I'm aware, there are proposals put out there by members of the Israeli cabinet that involve removing Gazans from their land. Whether it's buying them out or through other means, many of them rest on the fact that Gaza has largely been polverised for about a year and a half and turned into uninhabitable no man's land. Trump has apparently proposed developing Gaza into a resort town and shipping Gazans off the Egypt or other countries. I suppose Netanyahu must have suggested to him some lucrative deals. Trump is a businessman at heart and seems to be easily drawn by profitable "deals" more so than conscience.

It actually belongs to Israel anyway you twit. They would have had every right to evict those squatters after the 6 day war. Unfortunately no muslim country would have them. Egypt built a massive wall to keep them out (which no one ever mentions) so Israel has been stuck with them ever since and putting up with their endless atrocities against Israelis.
As for 'European colonialsim'. Umm. Humans colonise. It's what they do. That's why we are on every square inch of the planet excluding Antarctica but there are even humans polluting that pristine place too, so don't throw your woke buzzwords at me.
Every noticed how there are so many muslim countries? How do you think that came about?

By force of arms it belongs to Israel. However, I don't know that it's a good idea to say that force alone gives someone a right to land that another person is standing on and has lived on for decades.

As far as Muslim countries, why do you think there are so many Muslim countries? I mean, I really don't know. It seems to be gaining popularity in the 3rd world, perhaps, because we of European ancestry have been pushing others around for a long time. And as far as I'm aware, Islam doesn't necessarily stand for war but it does insist that people stand up for themselves. So perhaps that is what 3rd world countries need to do, stand up for themselves. Because if they turn the other cheek then we Europeans will simply take as much as we can get. I mean, this seems to be the view that has been propagating in the world since Bush and Clinton's involvement in world politics. I wish it wasn't but those people were reckless in foreign policy. They were guided by the myth of American exceptionalism, the belief that America is somehow special and more just and right than many other nations, even ones with less militarist records.

Yeah, AFTER they were attacked by Syria, Egypt and Jordan! It wasn't 'taken by force of arms' in the first place, unlike pretty much EVERY other country on the planet. That's how countries come in and out of existence...DUH! What did you expect Israel to do? Lie down? Cease to exist? What would happen then? It's won over and over again, ALWAYS after being attacked. As a matter of FACT, Arabs in the region had been screwed over by wealthy Arab landowners long before it became Israel, and Arabs who didn't even live there were happy to sell their land to Zionists-- especially as they thought it was worthless anyway. They thought the Zionists were nuts to want it and assumed they would be able to just take it back (they were wrong). FFS. If you can't present a decent argument then don't bother.

[Gary Childress]

It actually belongs to Israel anyway you twit. They would have had every right to evict those squatters after the 6 day war. Unfortunately no muslim country would have them. Egypt built a massive wall to keep them out (which no one ever mentions) so Israel has been stuck with them ever since and putting up with their endless atrocities against Israelis.
As for 'European colonialsim'. Umm. Humans colonise. It's what they do. That's why we are on every square inch of the planet excluding Antarctica but there are even humans polluting that pristine place too, so don't throw your woke buzzwords at me.
Every noticed how there are so many muslim countries? How do you think that came about?

By force of arms it belongs to Israel. However, I don't know that it's a good idea to say that force alone gives someone a right to land that another person is standing on and has lived on for decades.

As far as Muslim countries, why do you think there are so many Muslim countries? I mean, I really don't know. It seems to be gaining popularity in the 3rd world, perhaps, because we of European ancestry have been pushing others around for a long time. And as far as I'm aware, Islam doesn't necessarily stand for war but it does insist that people stand up for themselves. So perhaps that is what 3rd world countries need to do, stand up for themselves. Because if they turn the other cheek then we Europeans will simply take as much as we can get. I mean, this seems to be the view that has been propagating in the world since Bush and Clinton's involvement in world politics. I wish it wasn't but those people were reckless in foreign policy. They were guided by the myth of American exceptionalism, the belief that America is somehow special and more just and right than many other nations, even ones with less militarist records.

Yeah, AFTER they were attacked by Syria, Egypt and Jordan! It wasn't 'taken by force of arms' in the first place, unlike pretty much EVERY other country on the planet. That's how countries come in and out of existence...DUH! What did you expect Israel to do? Lie down? Cease to exist? What would happen then? It's won over and over again, ALWAYS after being attacked. As a matter of FACT, Arabs in the region had been screwed over by wealthy Arab landowners long before it became Israel, and Arabs who didn't even live there were happy to sell their land to Zionists-- especially as they thought it was worthless anyway. They thought the Zionists were nuts to want it and assumed they would be able to just take it back (they were wrong). FFS. If you can't present a decent argument then don't bother.

I don't expect anyone to lay down and cease to exist, neither Israel nor Gazans. Principles apply to everyone.

[accelafine]

By force of arms it belongs to Israel. However, I don't know that it's a good idea to say that force alone gives someone a right to land that another person is standing on and has lived on for decades.

As far as Muslim countries, why do you think there are so many Muslim countries? I mean, I really don't know. It seems to be gaining popularity in the 3rd world, perhaps, because we of European ancestry have been pushing others around for a long time. And as far as I'm aware, Islam doesn't necessarily stand for war but it does insist that people stand up for themselves. So perhaps that is what 3rd world countries need to do, stand up for themselves. Because if they turn the other cheek then we Europeans will simply take as much as we can get. I mean, this seems to be the view that has been propagating in the world since Bush and Clinton's involvement in world politics. I wish it wasn't but those people were reckless in foreign policy. They were guided by the myth of American exceptionalism, the belief that America is somehow special and more just and right than many other nations, even ones with less militarist records.

Yeah, AFTER they were attacked by Syria, Egypt and Jordan! It wasn't 'taken by force of arms' in the first place, unlike pretty much EVERY other country on the planet. That's how countries come in and out of existence...DUH! What did you expect Israel to do? Lie down? Cease to exist? What would happen then? It's won over and over again, ALWAYS after being attacked. As a matter of FACT, Arabs in the region had been screwed over by wealthy Arab landowners long before it became Israel, and Arabs who didn't even live there were happy to sell their land to Zionists-- especially as they thought it was worthless anyway. They thought the Zionists were nuts to want it and assumed they would be able to just take it back (they were wrong). FFS. If you can't present a decent argument then don't bother.

I don't expect anyone to lay down and cease to exist, neither Israel nor Gazans. Principles apply to everyone.

Well apparently you do. And if the Gazans are going to keep spending all of their countless billions of 'aid' money on attacking Israel then they are going to keep getting pummelled. Humans are pitifully easy to brainwash and manipulate. Gazans are so full of hate and resentment that they can't think straight.

[Pistolero]

She;s only enraged when circumcised babies die.
it's her fetish.

She despises the full fold.

[accelafine]

Is the pisspot continuing to squawk incoherently about 'banks' 'Hollywood', 'rothschilds', 'DNA', and 'world domination'? Thankfully I can't hear the squawks now

[Gary Childress]

Yeah, AFTER they were attacked by Syria, Egypt and Jordan! It wasn't 'taken by force of arms' in the first place, unlike pretty much EVERY other country on the planet. That's how countries come in and out of existence...DUH! What did you expect Israel to do? Lie down? Cease to exist? What would happen then? It's won over and over again, ALWAYS after being attacked. As a matter of FACT, Arabs in the region had been screwed over by wealthy Arab landowners long before it became Israel, and Arabs who didn't even live there were happy to sell their land to Zionists-- especially as they thought it was worthless anyway. They thought the Zionists were nuts to want it and assumed they would be able to just take it back (they were wrong). FFS. If you can't present a decent argument then don't bother.

I don't expect anyone to lay down and cease to exist, neither Israel nor Gazans. Principles apply to everyone.

Well apparently you do.

Where have I said anyone needs to lay down or cease to exist? I have repeatedly stated that Israel has a right to exist.

[accelafine]

I don't expect anyone to lay down and cease to exist, neither Israel nor Gazans. Principles apply to everyone.

Well apparently you do.

Where have I said anyone needs to lay down or cease to exist? I have repeatedly stated that Israel has a right to exist.

You seem confused. Perhaps you should take a nap.

[Gary Childress]

Well apparently you do.

Where have I said anyone needs to lay down or cease to exist? I have repeatedly stated that Israel has a right to exist.

You seem confused. Perhaps you should take a nap.

Perhaps it was in the argument I'm having with IC right now in another thread. I've stated numerous times there that Israel has a right to exist and I've been consistent. It's difficult to hold two running arguments with two different people at the same time, often repeating myself from one thread to the next and addressing misunderstandings. It's very taxing. I have stated my understanding of the way things stand, you are free to read it or ignore it at your leisure.

[accelafine]

Where have I said anyone needs to lay down or cease to exist? I have repeatedly stated that Israel has a right to exist.

You seem confused. Perhaps you should take a nap.

Perhaps it was in the argument I'm having with IC right now in another thread. I've stated numerous times there that Israel has a right to exist and I've been consistent. It's difficult to hold two running arguments with two different people at the same time, often repeating myself from one thread to the next and addressing misunderstandings. It's very taxing. I have stated my understanding of the way things stand, you are free to read it or ignore it at your leisure.

Saying a country has a 'right to exist' or not is meaningless.

[Gary Childress]

You seem confused. Perhaps you should take a nap.

Perhaps it was in the argument I'm having with IC right now in another thread. I've stated numerous times there that Israel has a right to exist and I've been consistent. It's difficult to hold two running arguments with two different people at the same time, often repeating myself from one thread to the next and addressing misunderstandings. It's very taxing. I have stated my understanding of the way things stand, you are free to read it or ignore it at your leisure.

Saying a country has a 'right to exist' or not is meaningless.

If that's what you believe...