LOL, and thanks for the example.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:24 amYes, and this is because of the very words that they, and you, use. Which cannot be refuted, by the way.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:57 amHypocrite. When others assert things without qualification, you tell them their believe absolutely.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:23 am Look "iwannaplato" there is absolutely no use at all in keep repeating that you do not believe things to be true 'absolutely', while still presenting your own assumptions and beliefs as though they are, absolutely, true. The only one you are 'trying to' fool and deceive here is "your" own 'self', as some would say.
Eating Meat is Barbaric
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But, you have, once again, completely and utterly missed and misunderstood what this and that stuff was actually about.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:03 amIf you actually looked at the linked post and can't figure that out, there's no point in me trying to help you more with your request/question.
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Actually it's you who have once again made assumptions that you haven't noticed are assumptions (and incorrect ones, at that).
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Yes, when I, or you, and others, say some thing that cannot be refuted, then that is, obviously, absolutely True.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:05 amLOL, and thanks for the example.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:24 amYes, and this is because of the very words that they, and you, use. Which cannot be refuted, by the way.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:57 am Hypocrite. When others assert things without qualification, you tell them their believe absolutely.
But, again, you believe, absolutely, that this is not even a possibility.
Now, if you are trying to 'allude' to some thing by saying, 'and thanks for the example', then until you clarify and explain what 'that' is, exactly, what you are 'alluding' to is not even yet known, except by you of course.
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Once again, you have made another claim here 'about me'.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:33 amActually it's you who have once again made assumptions that you haven't noticed are assumptions (and incorrect ones, at that).
Now, once again, I will ask you, 'What do you believe I have made assumptions about, which you also believe, absolutely, that I have not noticed are assumptions, and which you also believe, absolutely, are incorrect assumptions, at that, exactly?'
And, once again, you will never actually clarify.
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See how I just said and claimed that you will never actually 'clarify', this here is another prime example of 'that claim' being true.
That you do not actually clarify things, when specifically asked for, you also very rarely speak and write in 'a way' that expresses what you are Truly meaning and referencing, exactly.
But, this is just another consequence of the huge lack of trust that you have in others. Do you, really, dislike coming across as be Wrong and Incorrect, so much, that you do not like to express clear and succinct views and positions just in case others will point out and show where they are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect?
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Thank you for revealing why you approach communication the way you do.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:47 am See how I just said and claimed that you will never actually 'clarify', this here is another prime example of 'that claim' being true.
That you do not actually clarify things, when specifically asked for, you also very rarely speak and write in 'a way' that expresses what you are Truly meaning and referencing, exactly.
But, this is just another consequence of the huge lack of trust that you have in others. Do you, really, dislike coming across as be Wrong and Incorrect, so much, that you do not like to express clear and succinct views and positions just in case others will point out and show where they are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect?
Remember, I have said several times that you are not necessarily the target audience for my posts. That you might need clarification for what I meant by 'example' above, has little to do with what an interested reader would understand reading our exchange. I didn't rule out that you might also understand, but it seems you are not curious.
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Again, you just 'allude' to some thing, without ever actually saying what you are talking about/referring to, exactly.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:53 amThank you for revealing why you approach communication the way you do.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:47 am See how I just said and claimed that you will never actually 'clarify', this here is another prime example of 'that claim' being true.
That you do not actually clarify things, when specifically asked for, you also very rarely speak and write in 'a way' that expresses what you are Truly meaning and referencing, exactly.
But, this is just another consequence of the huge lack of trust that you have in others. Do you, really, dislike coming across as be Wrong and Incorrect, so much, that you do not like to express clear and succinct views and positions just in case others will point out and show where they are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect?
How many is 'several', to you, exactly?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:53 am Remember, I have said several times that you are not necessarily the target audience for my posts.
Why?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:53 am That you might need clarification for what I meant by 'example' above, has little to do with what an interested reader would understand reading our exchange.
What do you presume, exactly, a so-called 'interested reader' would understand reading our exchange? (Not that you would ever clarify.)
Okay.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:53 am I didn't rule out that you might also understand, but it seems you are not curious.
But, just being 'curios', without ever seeking out actual clarification, will never necessarily lead to, actual, 'understanding', itself.
Obviously, you will not clarify, for reasons, which might include that you do not even 'understand' here.
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It's ironic. You have said this before both after I have clarified certain things AND precisely before I do go ahead, despite your assumption, and clarify the specific thing you wanted clarification of and assumed you would not get an answer. One would think you would learn about making this assumption.
One would think you would learn about false generalizations and the problems with binary thinking.
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What are you even on about here, this time?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:10 pmAnd thank you for this example of you universalizing from what you think is my reaction to you, to what must be the case about how I feel or don't feel about everyone.
Why did you even begin to presume the absolutely False and Wrong things that you have here?
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But, this is just False and Incorrect, as well.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:13 pmIt's ironic. You have said this before both after I have clarified certain things AND precisely before I do go ahead, despite your assumption, and clarify the specific thing you wanted clarification of and assumed you would not get an answer.
Unless you would like to prove otherwise.
What assumption?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:13 pm One would think you would learn about making this assumption.
Not that you will ever clarify.
Okay.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:13 pm One would think you would learn about false generalizations and the problems with binary thinking.
But, is eating meat barbaric, to you, or not?
Or, do you try to 'justify' eating meat, based on the fact that you will keep killing animals and children, anyway?
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Because of what you wrote, which I quoted.Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:18 pmWhat are you even on about here, this time?Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:10 pmAnd thank you for this example of you universalizing from what you think is my reaction to you, to what must be the case about how I feel or don't feel about everyone.
Why did you even begin to presume the absolutely False and Wrong things that you have here?
If want more of the context for your quote, it is here:
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That's where you made your unjustified negative assessment of me.
You'll never justify it, will you? Perhaps you'll ask a lot of clarifying questions instead.
Thank you for another example of your lack of curiosity.
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That 'unless' here is part of an illogical sense of causation on your part. It if it is False (or True, for that matter), then it would be regardless of what I would like to do.
Barbarians have tended to eat meat. But then so have civilized people. I think it is not a good adjective for meat eating, especially in the context of the horrific practices of civilized livestock treatment, for example.But, is eating meat barbaric, to you, or not?
How do you justify eating meat? I've read your post where you explained your position, but it simply assertion your position. I saw no justification.Or, do you try to 'justify' eating meat, based on the fact that you will keep killing animals and children, anyway?
You'll never justify it. You don't trust people.
Age-style absolute claims!: I'll keep using them with you.
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