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Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:33 pm
You have no precious memories. Let's face it you don't even have a passport. You've never been out of your state, and have lived for the msot part in your hill billy village with all those scared goats.
And this is why your opinions are so parochial and narrow minded.

After thinking it over, I'll give you this, even though you're insulting and obnoxious. I suppose a bit of curiosity about one who spouts off so much is natural, so I'll correct your erroneous beliefs that you thuggishly present, for those with a better grip on reality than you.

Yes, I do have precious memories, but bad ones too. Yes, I have a passport. Yes, I have been out of the state where I currently live. I don't live in a village, and I don't have goats, although as a boy a neighboring goat wandered over to visit for a day. You also got the rest of it wrong.

Strange, the things you need to believe to support whatever it is rattling around in your noggin. How does it feel to be so lost in your beliefs?

These days we occasionally visit extended family in Europe, and come to think of it ... naw, you don't get any more than that. Oh my, the things I've seen and the stories I could tell you if you were a trusted friend. Alas.

But, I know what you're really up to. You're itchin' to tell your tales of adventure, of what you've seen and done. I bet you have some.

I won't piss on them.

Precious and few are the moments we two can share, walker.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:17 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:10 pm I'm not interested in viewing any links you post...

Then obviously your purpose here is merely to denigrate, rather than discuss.

What a stupid conclusion. But that's typical for you, right?

I gave you a good reason why I don't value your sources. So why would I be inclined to waste time on them? Can't you accept that? Your thing is not my thing. I like to see what we can agree on using our own words...

'you' may well CLAIM to like to do 'this' WITH 'this one' but 'you' have PROVEN to NOT like to do 'this' WITH "others" here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm it gives me hope that all is not lost with extremists such as yourself.

Do 'you' ALSO all of sudden become a so-called "extremist" WHEN 'you' PRESENT 'you' OBVIOUSLY 'extremist' VIEWS and BELIEFS, "lacewing", OR is 'it' DIFFERENT then?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm I like to see your brighter nature shine through... rather than the sludge that Trump has stirred up.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:17 pmAs Sculptor does, do you also mistakenly think that PNF is your hometown?

I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. I use this forum to have fun and explore ideas.

CLAIMING one 'thing' but then DOING and SHOW the EXACT OPPOSITE is sometimes called and known by 'being hypocritical', "lacewing".

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm I do have many other people and interests in my life.

'you' KEEP going ON and ON ABOUT 'this', as though 'it' is ACTUALLY NOT THAT true AT ALL, well NOT AS MUCH AS 'you' would LIKE and HOPE SO.

WHO CARES if 'you' have so-named 'many other people and interests', in 'your life'?

'you' ARE here, in a philosophy forum, and what MATTERS MOST here is just how MUCH ACTUAL 'truth' IS IN 'your words' and IF 'you' can ACTUALLY back up and support 'your words AND CLAIMS' here.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm Yesterday I had a little party at my house with people who like to have thoughtful conversations.

Is there A human being who SAYS or STATES: 'I do NOT like to have thoughtful conversations'?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm Ya know... IN PERSON!! Five of us this time. Great fun! That has always been one of my favorite things to do.

AND "other people" like to have so-called 'thoughtful conversations' WITH four or even six people, IN so-called PERSON, and 'that' being one of 'their' favorite 'things' TO DO, but MOST of 'them' CERTAINLY DO NOT GO TO a philosophy forum to TELL "others" that 'they' DO 'this'.

Unless, OF COURSE, 'they' ALSO 'thought' that 'this' WAS THE PURPOSE OF philosophy forums.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:24 am I was watching a show on TV tonight about the supposed Giants of Puma Punku, and the story goes that they were created from the dirt by a god, but then they angered the god, so the god sent a great flood to destroy them. How many times has such a story been used as a framework for beliefs, I wondered? Here's a list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Do we human beings just not raise our awareness long enough to recognize how much of our beliefs are built on endlessly recycled stories? The intent of many such stories being religious lures for the fearful. How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

I don't necessarily think these stories are all recycled. They could be thought up independently many different times. Floods happen everywhere in the world, and they're always biblically terrible events for primitive societies (and often biblically terrible for advanced societies as well). It's no surprise, I think, that its a shared experience world-wide from which big myths emerge.

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:04 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:24 am I was watching a show on TV tonight about the supposed Giants of Puma Punku, and the story goes that they were created from the dirt by a god, but then they angered the god, so the god sent a great flood to destroy them. How many times has such a story been used as a framework for beliefs, I wondered? Here's a list...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Do we human beings just not raise our awareness long enough to recognize how much of our beliefs are built on endlessly recycled stories? The intent of many such stories being religious lures for the fearful. How many repetitions do we need to go through before we move on from it?

I don't necessarily think these stories are all recycled. They could be thought up independently many different times. Floods happen everywhere in the world, and they're always biblically terrible events for primitive societies (and often biblically terrible for advanced societies as well). It's no surprise, I think, that its a shared experience world-wide from which big myths emerge.

Well said, Flannel Jesus!

Oh no doubt. And not just 'the great flood', but damn near everything else in the abrahamic religions is a patchwork of myths and stories cobbled together from older stuff.

Most people don't know this becuz status-quo conservatives have controlled the narrative since they landed on Plymouth rock. So truths such as the above have to be mined to be found out, and unfortunately that's always only by a few.

But the world might come around yet, i dunno. You'll have a portion that becomes 'woke' to the fraud of Christianity, and a portion that clings even harder to it when they begin to see evidence that it's a fraud; they become even more desperate than they were before when they thought it was real. It's that attitude that nothing is worth anything unless there's a god. Fortunately this is only an expression of their own inner turmoil, weakness and failings.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:37 pm Oh no doubt. And not just 'the great flood', but damn near everything else in the abrahamic religions is a patchwork of myths and stories cobbled together from older stuff.

Most people don't know this becuz status-quo conservatives have controlled the narrative since they landed on Plymouth rock. So truths such as the above have to be mined to be found out, and unfortunately that's always only by a few.

But the world might come around yet, i dunno. You'll have a portion that becomes 'woke' to the fraud of Christianity, and a portion that clings even harder to it when they begin to see evidence that it's a fraud; they become even more desperate than they were before when they thought it was real. It's that attitude that nothing is worth anything unless there's a god. Fortunately this is only an expression of their own inner turmoil, weakness and failings.

A lot of people are drawn to fantasy; it's escapism. You only have to scroll through Netlix to see what a popular distraction the supernatural and fantasy worlds are. We know it is just fictitious nonsense, but it's nice to pretend for a couple of hours. For some, however, that is not enough relief from the real world, and religion gives them permission to believe, rather than pretend. It's no good bombarding these people with facts about reality, because reality isn't what they want.

Right now, there is no escape for any of us from Earth. Militarism MUST stop. Countries of the world need to come together NOW and prevent our destruction. And if our leaders won't do it, then the people will do it for them. WE WILL NOT FIGHT WW3!

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:36 pm Right now, there is no escape for any of us from Earth. Militarism MUST stop.

Have you thought about moving to a quieter neighbourhood, Gary?

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:43 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:36 pm Right now, there is no escape for any of us from Earth. Militarism MUST stop.

Have you thought about moving to a quieter neighbourhood, Gary?

I've thought of blocking out every news source that is telling me what is happening around the world but then I wouldn't know that I should be protesting those governments that are doing evil around the world. And the USA is one of them.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:50 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:43 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:36 pm Right now, there is no escape for any of us from Earth. Militarism MUST stop.

Have you thought about moving to a quieter neighbourhood, Gary?

I've thought of blocking out every news source that is telling me what is happening around the world but then I wouldn't know that I should be protesting those governments that are doing evil around the world. And the USA is one of them.

If it makes you feel any better, nobody gives a fuck what you protest.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:50 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:43 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:36 pm Right now, there is no escape for any of us from Earth. Militarism MUST stop.

Have you thought about moving to a quieter neighbourhood, Gary?

I've thought of blocking out every news source that is telling me what is happening around the world but then I wouldn't know that I should be protesting those governments that are doing evil around the world. And the USA is one of them.

I think we have two choices, Gary: We can either ignore it, Or we can get off our arses and damn well do something about it. I ignore it.

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:12 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:50 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:43 pm

Have you thought about moving to a quieter neighbourhood, Gary?

I've thought of blocking out every news source that is telling me what is happening around the world but then I wouldn't know that I should be protesting those governments that are doing evil around the world. And the USA is one of them.

If it makes you feel any better, nobody gives a fuck what you protest.

Are you speaking for yourself when you say "nobody gives a fuck" or are you lamenting that no one is paying attention to my protests against the destruction of the world?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:15 pm
Are you speaking for yourself when you say "nobody gives a fuck" or are you lamenting that no one is paying attention to my protests against the destruction of the world?

More the second.

There's just not a lot of time for people in general to pay much attention what childless Gary thinks.

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:40 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:15 pm
Are you speaking for yourself when you say "nobody gives a fuck" or are you lamenting that no one is paying attention to my protests against the destruction of the world?

More the second.

There's just not a lot of time for people in general to pay much attention what childless Gary thinks.

Well if they don't start doing something different, then I will not be the only "childless" person in the world.