Trump Derangement Syndrome

[Immanuel Can]

I appreciate your post above.

Since you make much of my use of the word, “dirty”, I’ll explain myself this way:

Trump is an unethical, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, lying dirty dog.

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

[commonsense]

I appreciate your post above.

Since you make much of my use of the word, “dirty”, I’ll explain myself this way:

Trump is an unethical, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, lying dirty dog.

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog—you know, a dog that’s got dirt on it.

I could just as well called him a sick puppy.

I forgot to mention he’s also a xenophobe.

The rest are just tautologies for Trump.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I appreciate your post above.

Since you make much of my use of the word, “dirty”, I’ll explain myself this way:

Trump is an unethical, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, lying dirty dog.

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog—you know, a dog that’s got dirt on it.

I could just as well called him a sick puppy.

I forgot to mention he’s also a xenophobe.

The rest are just tautologies for Trump.

Wow. You are really up to date with your PCisms. Gotta have a plentiful supply of 'ists' and 'phobes' handy at all times

[Immanuel Can]

I appreciate your post above.

Since you make much of my use of the word, “dirty”, I’ll explain myself this way:

Trump is an unethical, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, lying dirty dog.

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog

Why? Prove to me you're doing more than slinging pointless mud.

What actual thing makes him "dirty"?

We can ask why "dog" later.

[commonsense]

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog

Why? Prove to me you're doing more than slinging pointless mud.

What actual thing makes him "dirty"?

We can ask why "dog" later.

The point is still waiting to be recognized in the 5th post on page 9. You call that mud slinging. I call it my opinion based on my interpretations of what I consider to be the facts.

I’m afraid I’ve lost you.

[commonsense]

I see your "emotion," and plausibly the "irrational" element you also mentioned. But what I don't have are the specific causes of those assessments. Can you give evidence to support those claims?

Start with "dirty": in what way is he "dirty."

Then let's work on the rest.

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog—you know, a dog that’s got dirt on it.

I could just as well called him a sick puppy.

I forgot to mention he’s also a xenophobe.

The rest are just tautologies for Trump.

Wow. You are really up to date with your PCisms. Gotta have a plentiful supply of 'ists' and 'phobes' handy at all times

I can also speak German, Spanish, Latin, Hebrew and Icelandic!

[Immanuel Can]

Just picture in your mind a dirty dog

Why? Prove to me you're doing more than slinging pointless mud.

What actual thing makes him "dirty"?

We can ask why "dog" later.

The point is still waiting to be recognized in the 5th post on page 9.

No, it's not. It was fully addressed 7 messages ago. Count back, and read again.

So you're furnishing yourself as a case in point, then. You have nasty words -- dirty, dog, sick, racist, xenophobe, homophobe, and so on -- but no substance that justifies them.

So again, it's just that "emotional, irrational" hatred we were talking about.

Unless you can justify your terms...but I'm starting to suspect you just can't. You just hate Trump, because the mainline press told you to.

Meanwhile, you don't express any concern at all about people who have been caught doing much worse things than you accuse Trump of doing.

Let me ask you a question: when Biden was accused on television of committing digital rape on Tara Reade, why do you think he didn't sue the network and her? Why do you suppose she wasn't charged? And where were all those people concerned about "dirty" politicians?

[Walker]

The point is still waiting to be recognized in the 5th post on page 9. You call that mud slinging. I call it my opinion based on my interpretations of what I consider to be the facts.

I’m afraid I’ve lost you.

Your interpretations are evidence that you've been conditioned by ideological propaganda ... and at your age you should be ashamed for your complicity.

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- Ideological propagandizing theorizes that Trump wants to destroy the planet because he weakened the regulatory power of a very powerful government agency (the EPA) that is protected from the vote in order to shield the legislators from responsibility, an agency that controls virtually every facet of commerce.

- Empirical evidence once again proves that loosening the choke-hold of government regulatory control unleashes responsible prosperity by enterprising capitalists, that makes the US energy independent, and does not destroy the planet.

[Walker]

(continued)

“disparagement of the State Department, the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, the electoral process…”

As long as you're lumping everything together …

- Except for the electoral process, you have listed some government agencies with various duties, and with various histories, but when lumped together they are the tails wagging the dog.

- You have listed some totems of the Swamp.
- They are supposed to be agencies to aid activation of the Constitution.

- Instead, they have become the tails wagging the dog.
- They have become the gigantic, obese, bloated, trough-feeding, self-perpetuating, Deep State.
- These totems are not the government intended by the Constitution.

Re: electoral process
- The Left has corrupted the electoral process, and Trump addressed that corruption. He disparaged the corruption … of the election process. He did not disparage the election process.
- It appears the Leftist propaganda has taken a firm grip on your comprehension capacity, or else you’re purposely dishonest.

[commonsense]

Why assume that I’ve been brainwashed by propaganda? Perhaps we that’s true of others, but as for me I was raised to abhor and not emulate a man like Trump. His politics are simply Republican in nature, and I can accept that. I would describe myself as a social Republican and a financial Democrat.

As for my opinion of Trump the man, it is only an opinion. It is an opinion based on my interpretation of the man, not on anything that would prove to you that your opinion is wrong. But is he a misogynist (what does the pussy incident reveal)? Are Clinton and Biden misogynistic (resoundingly yes, but that doesn’t excuse Trump in any way)? Is he a racist (did he express approval of the good Supremacists at Charlottesville)? Is he a xenophobe (did he characterize Mexicans as murderers and rapists)? Is he a liar (did he assure the public that Covid was no worse than a cold or flu)? Did he recommend intake of bleach as a cure for Covid? Maybe my estimation of the man is based on these things. If these things didn’t happen, then my conclusions and opinion are wrong.

Keep in mind that I have not been answering the question, what makes Trump evil. I have been answering the question, why do I hate Trump. I have never thought that I hate him, but rather that I am disappointed in him prior to now. I have been convinced by this thread that I do harbor a hatred for Trump.

[commonsense]

Do you assert that the despicable things I mentioned above did not happen or that I should not be bothered by them or that I am a hypocrite if I am disturbed by them?

[Walker]

Commonsense, no offense intended with the remark about “dishonesty,” and here’s why.

- Objectively speaking, dishonesty is a Socratic Tactic (ST) used by debaters such as attorneys, and used by baiters such as cops, to gauge the receiver’s responses. It all depends on the intent of the ST.

- Because some of your remarks are so absurd, you may indeed be consciously utilizing the ST, objectively.

- For example (not of you, but of dishonesty whether ST or not), recent dialogues in erstwhile threads have revealed that a predatory human may spot a sincere fish who wants to help humanity, but who is unaccustomed to the frustrations of irrational challenges that intend to pick his pockets of whatever is precious … by means of challenging preciousness through philosophical challenge based on the scientific approach of falsification, no matter how irrational those challenges may be.

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If you are sincere in what you believe, and not objective enough to use ST, then your perspective of situational appropriateness in regards to the executive branch has been skewed by propaganda, and apparently identity politics plays a part in the bent view.

[Immanuel Can]

Why assume that I’ve been brainwashed by propaganda?

Well, that has to be assumed when you repeat the Democrat lie about "racism," for example. There's no evidence, if you read the transcript from the Charlottesville incident, that Trump said anything even remotely racist, or had anything to do with that. Like the "Russia Collusion" hoax, it's been utterly disproved by the evidence, and yet you're still repeating it.

I also note that you're making mountains out of molehills...like "he looks to long at the sun," or "his wife might not have taken his hand on a given occasion," and then making something even smaller than molehills out of Biden's digital rape, Biden's racist comments, or Biden's ginning up of public hatred -- all of which you have actual video evidence for. And we have the Biden laptop, as well, for proof that Biden's corrupt and enabling a coke fiend son, and doing some monkey business in Ukraine. We have his total failure at the wall, his embarassing debacle in Afghanistan, his inability to speak coherenty or even stay upright on a bike...Yet you save every negative epithet for Trump?

What I'm saying is not that you've got to like Trump. I don't expect that. And personally, I have no special love for the man, either: he seems to me to be a media creature...maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so right now. But if the reasons you dislike him with such white-hot, emotional intensity and heap such terms of insult on him are even close to equitably weighed, you ought to hate Biden even more. But you don't. And that's really remarkable. Nobody can miss it, if we weigh all the evidence on hand.

So I keep asking why you do that. And you have no good answers, it seems. For some reason, you hold Trump to a much higher moral standard than any Democrat politician...including the guy who's running the country into a swamp right now.

As you say,

I have been convinced by this thread that I do harbor a hatred for Trump.

Did it really take this thread for you to discover something that was so massively apparent to everybody else? Okay, but that's kind of surprising.

So you hate Trump. But maybe it's time to examine WHY you have come to have the peculiar white-hotness of hatred you have for Trump. My suspicion is that you are being manipulated, because all the things you say are Democrat "talking points" they rehearse in an effort to discredit him. None are original. They're clearly not your own ideas, your own discoveries. They're the "official Democrat" points.

[commonsense]

I get it, IC. You’re saying that things didn’t happen and I shouldn’t be bothered by things that did happen. You’re also saying I’m a hypocrite for not hating Biden.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I get it, IC. You’re saying that things didn’t happen and I shouldn’t be bothered by things that did happen. You’re also saying I’m a hypocrite for not hating Biden.

Do you hate dubya Bush? Or Hillary Clinton? Or Saint Obama for that matter. I'm sure all the parents of the children he murdered with drones do.