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Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 10:08 pm
by bahman
Sculptor wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:03 pm
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:54 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:38 pm

This does not help you case.
It does. Forcing people to do or accept what they don't like is wrong.
AND WHAT THEY DO AND DO NOT LIKE IS SUBJECTIVE
Of course, we are talking about alive people. But like or dislike is a fact.

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 5:23 am
by Veritas Aequitas
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 3:38 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 5:41 am
bahman wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:02 pm
Aha, all humans are programmed. Like or dislike is also a part of the program.
Do you understand the difference between pre-existing DNA codes and subsequent RNA replications?
RNA is single-stranded.
I was referring to the replication process of the RNA.
The DNA generally contain the inherent nature.
The RNA replicates and transcribes the DNA code into various manifestations within the individual. Because of the possibilities of variations and defects due to specific conditions, this generate the subjective likes and dislikes of the individual which cannot be facts but subjective views of the individuals.

What is fact is the human nature embedded in the DNA.

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am
by Sculptor
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:08 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:03 pm
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:54 pm
It does. Forcing people to do or accept what they don't like is wrong.
AND WHAT THEY DO AND DO NOT LIKE IS SUBJECTIVE
Of course, we are talking about alive people. But like or dislike is a fact.
No, like and dislike is opinion. You like one thing I hate it; where is the "fact" here?

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:08 pm
by bahman
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 5:23 am
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 3:38 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 5:41 am
Do you understand the difference between pre-existing DNA codes and subsequent RNA replications?
RNA is single-stranded.
I was referring to the replication process of the RNA.
The DNA generally contain the inherent nature.
The RNA replicates and transcribes the DNA code into various manifestations within the individual. Because of the possibilities of variations and defects due to specific conditions, this generate the subjective likes and dislikes of the individual which cannot be facts but subjective views of the individuals.

What is fact is the human nature embedded in the DNA.
And in his chemistry, including RNA.

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 4:10 pm
by bahman
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:08 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:03 pm
AND WHAT THEY DO AND DO NOT LIKE IS SUBJECTIVE
Of course, we are talking about alive people. But like or dislike is a fact.
No, like and dislike is opinion. You like one thing I hate it; where is the "fact" here?
Like and dislike are person dependent but there is personal reason, person chimistery for example, that is why a person like or dislike certain things. So it is a fact.

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:25 pm
by Sculptor
bahman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:10 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am
bahman wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 10:08 pm
Of course, we are talking about alive people. But like or dislike is a fact.
No, like and dislike is opinion. You like one thing I hate it; where is the "fact" here?
Like and dislike are person dependent but there is personal reason, person chimistery for example, that is why a person like or dislike certain things. So it is a fact.
That does not make moral realism true.
And does not advance any argument for it either.
Despite the obvious "CHIMISTERY"?? :lol:

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 8:34 pm
by bahman
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:25 pm
bahman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:10 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am

No, like and dislike is opinion. You like one thing I hate it; where is the "fact" here?
Like and dislike are person dependent but there is personal reason, person chimistery for example, that is why a person like or dislike certain things. So it is a fact.
That does not make moral realism true.
It does. Do you accept to be beaten to death?
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am And does not advance any argument for it either.
It does once you realize that like or dislike is a fact.
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am Despite the obvious "CHIMISTERY"?? :lol:
What is this?

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:14 am
by Sculptor
bahman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 8:34 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am Despite the obvious "CHIMISTERY"?? :lol:
What is this?
I don't know. It is your word. :D
It's a mistery to me

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 5:02 pm
by bahman
Sculptor wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 9:14 am
bahman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 8:34 pm
Sculptor wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 10:52 am Despite the obvious "CHIMISTERY"?? :lol:
What is this?
I don't know. It is your word. :D
It's a mistery to me
Chemistry. :mrgreen:

Re: Moral realism is true

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:54 am
by popeye1945
Morals are the sensibilities of conscious creatures shared through a common biology but this is not absolute, there are those that do not experience the same sensibilities, think the psychopath or just a very insensitive individual. All meaning is biologically dependent thus morality itself is biologically dependent.