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Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:06 am**

Dontaskme wrote:It's not yours. ...

Certainly is.

You're not.

Who're you talking to then?

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:08 am**

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:06 am
Dontaskme wrote:It's not yours. ...
Certainly is.

Is/n't.

You're not.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:06 amWho're you talking to then?

My imaginary friendly foe.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:10 am**

Dontaskme wrote:Is/n't.

How would you know?

My imaginary friendly foe.

Seek professional help if this is the case.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:33 am**

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:10 am
Dontaskme wrote:Is/n't.
How would you know?

By not-knowing.

My imaginary friendly foe.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:10 amSeek professional help if this is the case.

Narh, they'd only confirm what I already know. A waste of time these not-knowing know it alls.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:22 pm**

ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:41 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:24 am
ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:42 am
I KNOW you can not do any thing without Me, so you are wel-come.

'I' am the Universe and 'you' are just one part in Me. Therefore, 'you' are M(in)E. 'I' control 'you' and when I have prepared you enough, then you will be ready for Me to reveal the Truth to you. Then we-will-come together as One to create that what IS truly wanted by EVERY One.
Very beautiful.

The cry of the beloved calling itself home.

I am always home. I can never leave you. You leave me.

But you cannot do without me, so you always return to where you never left.

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When dontaskme is prepared, and the Truth has been revealed to them, then dontaskme will be able to explain in plain and simple language who and what 'you' are and who and what 'I' am. Until then, like dontaskme keeps repeating, dontaskme does NOT know what they are talking about. This has been proven enough times already with the inability to clarify questions and explain what they are trying to say. They will just keep repeating what others have said without ever really knowing what it is they are repeating.

Yep, that's just about what seems to be happening apparently.

Explaining the unexplained is a repetitive business.

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ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:41 am They will just keep repeating what others have said without ever really knowing what it is they are repeating

Good job I don't repeat what you have said Ken, cause then I'd only be repeating what other people have said.

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Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:33 pm**

Dontaskme wrote:By not-knowing. ...

How did you know you didn't know?

Narh, they'd only confirm what I already know. ...

I thought you didn't know?

A waste of time these not-knowing know it alls.

Let's hope you never need them then.

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:41 pm**

Dontaskme wrote:By not-knowing. ...

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:33 pmHow did you know you didn't know?

By knowing.

Narh, they'd only confirm what I already know. ...

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:33 pmI thought you didn't know?

I don't.

A waste of time these not-knowing know it alls.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:33 pmLet's hope you never need them then.

I don't need what I already AM

Posted: **Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pm**

Dontaskme wrote:By knowing.

But you don't know anything?

Narh, they'd only confirm what I already know. ...

I don't.

On a Philosophy forum of all places.

I don't need what I already AM

But you aren't anything?

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:27 am**

ken wrote:
Who says that the Universe and God are NOT One and the same
Does the word Universe and the word God mean the same then

How do you know that the Universe is not a conscious entity
Where exactly would one find this so called conscious entity

Have you ever wondered how the conscious entities within the Universe got their consciousness
The natural order required for consciousness is physics followed by chemistry followed by biology

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:22 am**

Dontaskme wrote:By knowing.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pmBut you don't know anything?

There is only knowing. Knowing is not known by a ''someone''. You are the knowing that cannot be known. Knower knowing known are one.
Everything shares the same one knowing capacity. And ''thing'' aka objects, concepts, don't know, they are not the knowers, they are already known by the not-known.
Confusing isn't it?

But not to one who has studied nondual philosophy which is what I've been doing all my life. It's like having to think and see backwards into the mirror and not at what the mirror is reflecting.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pmOn a Philosophy forum of all places.

Well there is only one place. It's not even a place. Where is 100 miles south of the earth?

I don't need what I already AM

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:07 pmBut you aren't anything?

Am that as well.

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Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:27 am**

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:27 amThe natural order required for consciousness is physics followed by chemistry followed by biology

Consciousness is purely physical. I like your answer.

Everything is physical since that which is physical cannot not be physical.
Paradoxically, the physical is a non physical idea.
The physical being the seen, the idea is the unseen.

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We rarely give the unseen any attention.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:18 am**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:22 pm
ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:41 am
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:24 am

Very beautiful.

The cry of the beloved calling itself home.

I am always home. I can never leave you. You leave me.

But you cannot do without me, so you always return to where you never left.

.
When dontaskme is prepared, and the Truth has been revealed to them, then dontaskme will be able to explain in plain and simple language who and what 'you' are and who and what 'I' am. Until then, like dontaskme keeps repeating, dontaskme does NOT know what they are talking about. This has been proven enough times already with the inability to clarify questions and explain what they are trying to say. They will just keep repeating what others have said without ever really knowing what it is they are repeating.
Yep, that's just about what seems to be happening apparently.

Explaining the unexplained is a repetitive business.

.
ken wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:41 am They will just keep repeating what others have said without ever really knowing what it is they are repeating
Good job I don't repeat what you have said Ken, cause then I'd only be repeating what other people have said.

.

Yes it is a good job 'you' do not repeat what 'I' say, that is until 'you' can grasp, understand, and know what 'I' am saying. Until then dontaskme will just keep repeating what others say, like what dontaskme has been doing all along.

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:33 am**

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:27 am
ken wrote:
Who says that the Universe and God are NOT One and the same
Does the word Universe and the word God mean the same then

How do you know that the Universe is not a conscious entity
Where exactly would one find this so called conscious entity

Have you ever wondered how the conscious entities within the Universe got their consciousness
The natural order required for consciousness is physics followed by chemistry followed by biology

First off, did you notice you did NOT answer the actual questions I posed for clarity? You answered what you THOUGHT I was asking.

1. No, the word 'Universe' and the word 'God' do NOT mean the exact same. But they are very close indeed. The specifics have to be broken down and looked at fully for this to be fully understood.

2. One has to find out who and what they actually are, and think they are, first before that conscious entity, if there is One, could be seen and understood. By the way, did you notice that this truly open question was NOT answered at all, by rather replied with an assumed question. To find out if there IS One Universal conscious entity or not needs to be looked at from a truly OPEN perspective. That means no assumptions at all.

3. As for your third answer, do you any idea of when consciousness came or comes into existence?

Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:34 am**

ken wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:18 am
Yes it is a good job 'you' do not repeat what 'I' say, that is until 'you' can grasp, understand, and know what 'I' am saying. Until then dontaskme will just keep repeating what others say, like what dontaskme has been doing all along.

I grasp it when there is the realisation, recognition that there is no one to grasp it.

There is no one to grasp anything, this is already the grasped.

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Posted: **Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:36 am**

ken wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:33 am
3. As for your third answer, do you any idea of when consciousness came or comes into existence?

Yes, it comes into existence as soon as the curtain opens. Via the utterance of the word ''I''

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