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Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:20 pm
by chaz wyman
It's interesting to note that the some morons that would use this argument (of Locke's) to ban suicide, would manage to find an excuse for capital punishment.
Whereas it is so-called 'liberals' that, urge the right to euthanasia, also are against capital punishment.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:44 am
by JaapvdE
John wrote:Incidentally, what level are you writing this for?
If you mean my "level" in philosophy, it's very low because this is my first year having social sciences so I don't know much about this.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:57 am
by John
JaapvdE wrote:John wrote:Incidentally, what level are you writing this for?
If you mean my "level" in philosophy, it's very low because this is my first year having social sciences so I don't know much about this.
I meant, is this for university/college or high school?
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:11 pm
by JaapvdE
John wrote:JaapvdE wrote:John wrote:Incidentally, what level are you writing this for?
If you mean my "level" in philosophy, it's very low because this is my first year having social sciences so I don't know much about this.
I meant, is this for university/college or high school?
I'm in secondary school (Holland) 4th grade, so its my first year having social sciences
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:09 pm
by JaapvdE
As I already said I had to solve the problem about assisted suicide by thinking as John Locke. But how do you think he would solve the problem? I understand he might never said a word about (assisted) suicide or euthanasia, but there still are his main ideas about human beings. As says human can make out of their lives what they want (tabula rasa) he would be proponent.
Also if someone has an essay about assisted suicide I would like to have it, so I can use it for the project.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:21 pm
by Lynn
Not essays but I would direct to you to writer Terry Pratchett's Choosing to Die documentary - which contains an actual assisted suicide scene,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0120dxp and the related report on Assisted Dying
http://www.commissiononassisteddying.co.uk/.
Terry Pratchett was diagnosed with Alzheimer's in 2008 and has became a high profile advocate of assisted dying.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:45 pm
by JaapvdE
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:09 pm
by The Voice of Time
WHAT! He's one of my favourite writers! His books are just so funny! A man with such humour... only makes you wanna live ^^
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:57 pm
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:
WHAT! He's one of my favourite writers! His books are just so funny! A man with such humour... only makes you wanna live ^^
He wants to live, but not as a vegetable and he wants the right to end his life at a time of his choosing.
Alzheimer's is literally causing Terry to disappear before his own eyes.
He can no longer write without help and his has trouble putting clothes on - AND HE KNOWS IT.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:09 am
by The Voice of Time
chaz wyman wrote:
He can no longer write without help and his has trouble putting clothes on - AND HE KNOWS IT.
That may be but his latest book: "Snuff" sold really really well and was released in 2011, 4 years after his diagnose with Alzheimer's, so he still got it in him, and better stay alive so that I can continue reading his books! If he needs help writing or pooping or whatever doesn't matter, he can still work creativity and that's what really matters.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:31 pm
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:chaz wyman wrote:
He can no longer write without help and his has trouble putting clothes on - AND HE KNOWS IT.
That may be but his latest book: "Snuff" sold really really well and was released in 2011, 4 years after his diagnose with Alzheimer's, so he still got it in him, and better stay alive so that I can continue reading his books! If he needs help writing or pooping or whatever doesn't matter, he can still work creativity and that's what really matters.
~What matters to you or anybody else is of no matter. His choice whether or not he wants to live his own life should be his alone. It is for us to understand that choice if we have the balls.
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:45 pm
by The Voice of Time
chaz wyman wrote: if we have the balls.
cowardice you mean...
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:07 pm
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:chaz wyman wrote: if we have the balls.
cowardice you mean...
If it were up to you, you'd keep him as a brain in a vat in pain ands suffering so that you can pretend to yourself that no one has to die.
You need to grow a pair, boy!
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:29 pm
by The Voice of Time
Hmm... brain in a vat... if only Lovecraft had added the recipe for how to do it :/
Re: Assisted suicide and John Locke
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:33 am
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:Hmm... brain in a vat... if only Lovecraft had added the recipe for how to do it :/
Try Dennis Potter's
Cold Lazarus