Humans believe life is short and death is long.

[chaz wyman]

What do you mean by destiny?
And what is the function of life?
We pursue our purposes and act as we will.

You would not understand.

TRY ME.

It is my opinion that you haven't got a clue what you are banging on about.

[chaz wyman]

You would not understand.

You are so shocked that you hit the 'submit' twice.





TRY ME.

It is my opinion that you haven't got a clue what you are banging on about.

[reasonvemotion]

Humans are drawn into life and its project.
They believe that life extends forever even into death.
Most Humans cannot envisage a death without
a human extension.
But there is no relation between life and death.
Life is a self contained episode with no meaning.
There is no more meaning for humans in death
than there is for a dragon- fly.
The difference is that humanity has "meaning" in life
whilst the dragon-fly does not.
Human existence is a living project only.
Humans believe life is short and death is long.
But death has no duration .
The person who died yesterday
is no less dead than the person who died 1000 years ago.
Neither has entered any state outside a human constitution.
Life is a great folly. Life should be lived with the minimal
amount of engagement.
But humanity is obsessed with humanity and all its little foibles.
Humans are like all other animals absorbed in what it is to be that animal.

How have you come to these conclusions? I think it impossible for the same person to write the above and yet recommend reading If by Kipling. The above is lethargic and full of sadness. If, on the other hand is uplifting, passionate, throbbing with life.It suggests to me the duality of your quest to understand the statements you put forth. You are at odds with your self.

[chaz wyman]

Humans are drawn into life and its project.
They believe that life extends forever even into death.
Most Humans cannot envisage a death without
a human extension.
But there is no relation between life and death.
Life is a self contained episode with no meaning.
There is no more meaning for humans in death
than there is for a dragon- fly.
The difference is that humanity has "meaning" in life
whilst the dragon-fly does not.
Human existence is a living project only.
Humans believe life is short and death is long.
But death has no duration .
The person who died yesterday
is no less dead than the person who died 1000 years ago.
Neither has entered any state outside a human constitution.
Life is a great folly. Life should be lived with the minimal
amount of engagement.
But humanity is obsessed with humanity and all its little foibles.
Humans are like all other animals absorbed in what it is to be that animal.

How have you come to these conclusions? I think it impossible for the same person to write the above and yet recommend reading If by Kipling. The above is lethargic and full of sadness. If, on the other hand is uplifting, passionate, throbbing with life.It suggests to me the duality of your quest to understand the statements you put forth. You are at odds with your self.

Yes, that is exactly what I have been telling him. He has also stated that humans are obsessed with ego; "Humans are on a 24/7 ego trip".

[The Jesus Head]

How have you come to these conclusions? I think it impossible for the same person to write the above and yet recommend reading If by Kipling. The above is lethargic and full of sadness. If, on the other hand is uplifting, passionate, throbbing with life.It suggests to me the duality of your quest to understand the statements you put forth. You are at odds with your self.

You are at odds with the facility to think in such ways that I can think.
So your conclusion is that it is a contradiction.
Kipling exemplifies the truth about living.
I exemplify the truth about life.
There is no contradiction.

[chaz wyman]

How have you come to these conclusions? I think it impossible for the same person to write the above and yet recommend reading If by Kipling. The above is lethargic and full of sadness. If, on the other hand is uplifting, passionate, throbbing with life.It suggests to me the duality of your quest to understand the statements you put forth. You are at odds with your self.

You are at odds with the facility to think in such ways that I can think.
So your conclusion is that it is a contradiction.
Kipling exemplifies the truth about living.
I exemplify the truth about life.
There is no contradiction.

QED - you exemplify confusion.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Humans are drawn into life and its project.
They believe that life extends forever even into death.
Most Humans cannot envisage a death without
a human extension.
But there is no relation between life and death.
Life is a self contained episode with no meaning.
There is no more meaning for humans in death
than there is for a dragon- fly.
The difference is that humanity has "meaning" in life
whilst the dragon-fly does not.
Human existence is a living project only.
Humans believe life is short and death is long.
But death has no duration .
The person who died yesterday
is no less dead than the person who died 1000 years ago.
Neither has entered any state outside a human constitution.
Life is a great folly. Life should be lived with the minimal
amount of engagement.
But humanity is obsessed with humanity and all its little foibles.
Humans are like all other animals absorbed in what it is to be that animal.

Again you speak for others as if you actually can, with certainty. In fact you can only speak for yourself, as others may have lied to you, and you would have no way of knowing, unless they told you, and even then.

[The Jesus Head]

Again you speak for others as if you actually can, with certainty. In fact you can only speak for yourself, as others may have lied to you, and you would have no way of knowing, unless they told you, and even then.

I speak "about" others.
So I cannot know a lie unless the person who lies tells me it is a lie?

[reasonvemotion]

I exemplify the truth about life.
There is no contradiction.

You see therein lies the problem,

"Exemplify", you are not a typical example of life or truth and there is contradiction in what you say.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Again you speak for others as if you actually can, with certainty. In fact you can only speak for yourself, as others may have lied to you, and you would have no way of knowing, unless they told you, and even then.

I speak "about" others.

No! You spoke 'for' me. You told me what I believe, as if you possibly could, as such, you are a fool!

So I cannot know a lie unless the person who lies tells me it is a lie?

Depends upon the lie. Reread, ...and even then...!

[The Jesus Head]

Over the heads of you all yet again.

[chaz wyman]

Over the heads of you all yet again.

Since you can tell the future- its a pity you could not have predicted this state of affairs.

[SeanDyer]

Go on the keyboard warriors!

[Khalid]

But death has no duration .
The person who died yesterday
is no less dead than the person who died 1000 years ago.

This kinda agree with how it's described in Islam . Koran says that when people wake up in the judgement day , they will be asked , how long have you spent in your graves and they would reply few hours .

Life should be lived with the minimal
amount of engagement.

the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami was among the deadliest natural disasters in human history with over 230,000 people killed in 14 countries bordering the Indian Ocean.

Death is close to everyone . There is a million reason can take you away from your nice car , lovely family and any interest you have in this materialistic world .

[Veritas Aequitas]

That life is short is relative but inevitable death is a fact.

The majority of human beings (the theists) while being aware of the fact that life is short, they make desperate attempts to deny this fact and also the fact of inevitable death.
This tendency is natural in this phase of humanity's evolution, and theists seek and invent the lie of immortality to deny mortality and death.
Why? because reality and truth of inevitable death is naturally painful and manifest terror, psychological angst, anxieties and a terrible existential crisis.

The theistic suppression of the terror of inevitable death with a promise immortality pose a severe threat and hindrance to the progress of humanity in the longer run.
The most severe potential liability is due to the fact that the promise of a passport to immortality is laced with poisons, i.e. the violent, cruelty and intolerant immutable verses in the holy books.

For the minority of non-theists, life is whatever is the average life span of humanity and they have the limited free will to make it as meaningful as possible whilst driven by the inherent impulse to survive during its life span. Non-theist accept inevitable death as a fact and optimize every moment of living while alive.

Theists deny 'death'/mortality and believe in immortality (a whitel lie) as promised and at the same time become a slave to white-lies within a covenant that incorporates cruelty, violence and intolerance to their corresponding non-believers.
When comes to the crunch an against any apparent wall, they will have no hesistation to exercise the options of immutable laws of cruelty, violence and intolerances against non-believers which areclearly evident historically, at present and will go on in the future.

Thus, humans;
-the majority (Which are theists) refuse to acknowledge the real life span and deny mortality and death instead they belief in immortality and eternal life in heaven, and for some with virgins thrown in.
-the minority (the non-theists) realistically recognize life for what it is, make it as meaningful as possible and accept death as inevitable and a finnitude.