What if the Truth were harmful?

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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 5:47 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 3:26 pm
No resurrection, no Christianity.
Good riddance to all genocidal Gods and immoral messianic concepts. Right?
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phyllo wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 6:05 pm You would not believe anything that Jesus said about God and morality if he was not resurrected?
Many think supernatural garbage has truth in it.
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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 7:18 pm
phyllo wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 6:05 pm You would not believe anything that Jesus said about God and morality if he was not resurrected?
Jesus was The Christ.
Jesus was not a Christian.
Christians are not the Christ.

However, was Jesus the preternatural human, perceived as being supernatural, and who eclipsed the father with mortal understanding of doubt?
Does that mean that Jesus is a half breed chimera God, instead of a real Yahweh type God?
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Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 9:28 pm
Question for AI:
What is The Hypostatic Union?

Answer:
The Hypostatic Union is the Christian doctrine that Jesus Christ is one Person with two complete and distinct natures: fully God and fully human.

Commentary:
Fully human: preternatural
Fully God: supernatural
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Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 9:23 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 5:47 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 3:26 pm
No resurrection, no Christianity.
Good riddance to all genocidal Gods and immoral messianic concepts. Right?
Resurrection promises eternal life and genocide promises eternal death.
Because eternal life is, eternal death cannot be.

No promise of eternal life, no Christianity.
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Walker wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:45 am genocide promises eternal death.
Just to be sure we agree on terms..
GENOCIDE means killing a culture. It doesn't necessarily mean the physical death of any persons, let alone a lot of them. The vreason we tend to associate "genocide" with killing people is that is one obvious way to do that. Kill the people of a culture and you have killed the culture.

But say talking away all their children to be raised in residential schools away from their culture (raise them in a different culture) works too. No petrsons have to be killed doing it that way.
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Walker wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 2:13 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 9:28 pm
Question for AI:
What is The Hypostatic Union?

Answer:
The Hypostatic Union is the Christian doctrine that Jesus Christ is one Person with two complete and distinct natures: fully God and fully human.

Commentary:
Fully human: preternatural
Fully God: supernatural
Your info is correct on this stupid notion.
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Walker wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:45 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 9:23 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 5:47 pm
No resurrection, no Christianity.
Good riddance to all genocidal Gods and immoral messianic concepts. Right?
Resurrection promises eternal life and genocide promises eternal death.
Because eternal life is, eternal death cannot be.

No promise of eternal life, no Christianity.
No lies equals no Christianity.

Reading myths literally is for fools.
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half breed gods?

Pan, Pan the Greek god Pan
one part goat, the other part man...

-Imp
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MikeNovack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 2:23 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:45 am genocide promises eternal death.
Just to be sure we agree on terms..
GENOCIDE means killing a culture. It doesn't necessarily mean the physical death of any persons, let alone a lot of them. The vreason we tend to associate "genocide" with killing people is that is one obvious way to do that. Kill the people of a culture and you have killed the culture.

But say talking away all their children to be raised in residential schools away from their culture (raise them in a different culture) works too. No petrsons have to be killed doing it that way.
I see your point. Upon first seeing the death camps Eisenhower and the world did not say with horror, “How could the Nazis do this to a culture?” He didn't say, "Get the photographers in here to document this cultural genocide."

Despite the best efforts of the USA to civilize the "savage aboriginals" with government schools, the oppressed cultures went underground and will persist because of the people who keep culture alive. This is also the rationale for eliminating humans who dictate what the culture is to be, to a disarmed population, although after being neutered of the cultural dictators the culture will go underground and be kept alive as a concept, to weather the temporary storm that will blow over in just a few generations, e.g. Iran. In the meantime, no nukes for those who would apply genocide to Western culture.
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Impenitent wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 9:24 pm half breed gods?

Pan, Pan the Greek god Pan
one part goat, the other part man...

-Imp
The Hypostatic Union Equation is: 1 + 1 = 1 + 1

It is not ½ + ½ = 1
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Gary Childress wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 3:36 am How important for Christianity is the belief that Jesus is going to return to Earth? I mean, if Jesus never returns, does that mean Christianity is not the true religion?
How about we borrow an idea from Buddhism and simply assume that all of the world's religions are nothing more than temporary "rafts" that carry humans across the waters of earthly life and then abandoned once we reach the shore of death where the ultimate truth will finally be revealed to us?
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 3:36 am What about the resurrection of the dead? If the dead are never resurrected, does that disprove the validity of Christianity?
What does the "resurrection of the dead" even mean?

Will John Merrick (the "Elephant Man") be resurrected in the hideous form he had to endure while on Earth?

Will the innumerable millions of human infants who died before reaching the age of one month be resurrected in their helpless forms? --> and will they be resurrected only to be condemned to an eternity of torture in Hell because they didn't accept Jesus as their personal savior before dying?
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 3:36 am What if Christianity is wrong? Does it even matter if it is? If faith makes people happy and gives them hope, and not being happy or having hope are inherently bad things, then does that make it bad to believe something wonderful that isn't true instead of believing something tragic that is true? Isn't it better to be deluded if truth is harmful?
Precisely, Gary.

However, if believing in something puts us at dangerous loggerheads against those whose beliefs differ from ours...

(as is witnessed in the present status of the divergent world religions)

...then we have a problem...

...(especially in light of the fact that the temporary “rafts” are armed with cannons, torpedoes, Hellfire missiles, along with assorted and sundry world-ending nuclear weaponry).
Gary Childress wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 6:29 pm
phyllo wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2026 5:43 am One would have to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of believing the lie/falsehood.
And what if there are only advantages to believing the falsehood? Is there any reason to embrace the truth?
Right you are, Gary, especially if embracing the truth...

(i.e., having full knowledge of the truth of reality and that of your ultimate and eternal destiny)

...might breach the integrity of the very system that made it possible for you to receive the gift of life.
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