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Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:17 am Why do we believe we’re more special than creepy crawly bugs?

creepy crawlies have creepy bug rights too, no?

So, is this a forum for retards?

A mind is a life support system, and it achieves its function through judgment, and now you are playing the part of a retard that does not know its own job, nor can it apparently read a dictionary.

Asking the world to be a spectator in you mental masturbation is only evidence of chronic dysfunctionality.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:49 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:17 am Why do we believe we’re more special than creepy crawly bugs?

creepy crawlies have creepy bug rights too, no?

So, is this a forum for retards?

A mind is a life support system, and it achieves its function through judgment, and now you are playing the part of a retard that does not know its own job, nor can it apparently read a dictionary.

Asking the world to be a spectator in you mental masturbation is only evidence of chronic dysfunctionality.

Thank you, I agree the mind has only one job to do and that is to recognise that all Minds are illiterate, simply because they don’t exist. Existence is mental.

You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:17 am Why do we believe we’re more special than creepy crawly bugs?

creepy crawlies have creepy bug rights too, no?

From The Outlaw Josey Wales:

"Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_EEFI0PqQ

-Imp

You are the bacteria for my gutless marine worm.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:17 am Why do we believe we’re more special than creepy crawly bugs?

creepy crawlies have creepy bug rights too, no?

Considering how the world works, it would not surprise me if "mowing the grass" is murder to the little bugs in it. Living is a crime.

Yeah, God is benevolent.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:13 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 01, 2025 9:17 am Why do we believe we’re more special than creepy crawly bugs?

creepy crawlies have creepy bug rights too, no?

Considering how the world works, it would not surprise me if "mowing the grass" is murder to the little bugs in it. Living is a crime.

Yeah, God is benevolent.

I agree God is malevolent.

God doesn’t exist. Existence is God.

And by your own admission nothing is choosing to exist, so don’t be scared.

Murder is a legal term, so no, mowing your lawn isn't murder. The folks in the Law Now forum are laughing.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:43 am Murder is a legal term, so no, mowing your lawn isn't murder. The folks in the Law Now forum are laughing.

Man’s law is illegal. Illegality is legality.

Unlawful is lawful. Non violence is violence.

The universe stays silent , it permits everything, with no resistance, it’s all allowing, it’s an unconditional serial killer.

Man made laws that forbid murder then go on to kill innocent 19 year old babies on the killing fields of war, none of which received a hero’s welcome.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:43 am Murder is a legal term, so no, mowing your lawn isn't murder. The folks in the Law Now forum are laughing.

Are the folks in the "Law Now" forum certain that bugs don't possess consciousness nor have the capacity to experience suffering? If so, maybe they can engage in some neuro-philosophical discussion to enlighten the rest of us why that cannot possibly be the case?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 1:40 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:43 am Murder is a legal term, so no, mowing your lawn isn't murder. The folks in the Law Now forum are laughing.

Are the folks in the "Law Now" forum certain that bugs don't possess consciousness nor have the capacity to experience suffering? If so, maybe they can engage in some neuro-philosophical discussion to enlighten the rest of us why that cannot possibly be the case?

He's correct. It's only a legal term. And yes, of course INSECTS possess 'consciousness' and experience suffering. Why wouldn't they? Pain is one of the most important survival mechanisms and therefore one of the most primitive.
It's quite unbelievable that there are still humans around who think only humans experience pain and suffer. They are usually pathetic religious nuts. How clueless would someone need to be?

That wonderfully fresh smell of a recently mowed lawn is the distress signal sent out by the grass as a warning, presumably to the grass yet to be cut. This is a form of consciousness, and science is realizing more than ever just how much consciousness in the form of living vegetation is all around us. The forest is indeed a community that looks after its own. It is a much more wonderful world than a humdrum imagination might appreciate. If the subject intrigues you, consider reading a book called BRILLIANT GREEN. There are others, of course, but after reading some of these very scientific books, a walk in the forest will never be quite the same experience. Life has many forms, but as life, this is one essence. Of course, nature does not value life; it is rather a mindless process, but that does not mean that life itself cannot appreciate its other forms for what they are, a common essence. Nature is sublimely horrific and sublimely beautiful. AWE, in its presence, is sometimes referred to as participation in divinity.

If so, then bovine executions are justified.

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2026 4:50 pm If so, then bovine executions are justified.

Only in societies is morality relevant; in isolation, morality is meaningless, even absurd. Life lives upon life, the inescapable harsh reality of nature.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2026 9:07 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2026 4:50 pm If so, then bovine executions are justified.

Only in societies is morality relevant; in isolation, morality is meaningless, even absurd. Life lives upon life, the inescapable harsh reality of nature.

Because we only exist in relationship then we only exist in society, even if the society is just the birds and the bees, or even just thoughts. I think, therefore I am, therefore morality is part of consciousness and just needs an organized vehicle of expression. This gives rise to morality in hunting and human hunters harvest the mature. On the other hand, animals harvest what they can get which is usually the old, the weak, and the very young.

Does human morality upset nature's ways? No more than suppling cattle that allows wolves and bears to multiply, upsets nature.