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Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:47 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:20 pm She also has the benefit of not seeing Birmingham.

She can enjoy that when the far right parties she promotes eventually seize power, cut finding for her council subsidised DEI job, and take away her free healthcare.

My job is not a DEI job. I got it on my own merits, thank you very much. Do you think that being blind makes me mentally subnormal in some way?

As for free healthcare, none of the right wing parties that you presumably have in mind plan to scrap the NHS. They have made that very clear. I don't even think that Reform, for example, is particularly right wing at all.

You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.

The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.

but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.

Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.

The man has spoken. Swoon. How could a woman possibly know what's going on in her own country or who she wants to vote for?

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:27 am Hmm. Apparently the flags were taken down almost instantly by the council in Birmingham, yet the 'plasticinian' flags stayed up for months or even years.
Just looked at the demographics of Birmingham. JFC. What a dump it must be. I bet flasherwithoutundpants lives well away from there, probably in some safe, leafy, civilised corner of England. It's always like that with wokists

Birmingham is certainly getting worse, and is turning into a massive, stinking cesspit. One day, I'm sure I'll move. It's truly heartbreaking what they've done to it, and to our entire country.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:27 am Just looked at the demographics of Birmingham. JFC. What a dump it must be.

Good work racist grandma.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:01 am

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:47 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:20 pm She also has the benefit of not seeing Birmingham.

She can enjoy that when the far right parties she promotes eventually seize power, cut finding for her council subsidised DEI job, and take away her free healthcare.

My job is not a DEI job. I got it on my own merits, thank you very much. Do you think that being blind makes me mentally subnormal in some way?

As for free healthcare, none of the right wing parties that you presumably have in mind plan to scrap the NHS. They have made that very clear. I don't even think that Reform, for example, is particularly right wing at all.

You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.

The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.

but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.

Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.

+++You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.+++

Actually, I work for a private company that's contracted by the council to run the senior citizens' activity club at the leisure centre. Is that an example of a "subsidised" job in your opinion?

+++The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.+++

So you're quite posh then, with private health insurance. And a snob too, to call me a gammon. How typical.

+++but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.+++

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Can you describe what red looks like, please? And white?

+++Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.+++

According to Grok, in 2020, the year we left the EU, the UK spent over a billion pounds a week extra on the NHS than it had planned to, because of the pandemic. What's telling is that Remoaners were still going on about that so-called promise, too thick to realise that it had been fulfilled, three times over.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:01 am

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 6:47 am

My job is not a DEI job. I got it on my own merits, thank you very much. Do you think that being blind makes me mentally subnormal in some way?

As for free healthcare, none of the right wing parties that you presumably have in mind plan to scrap the NHS. They have made that very clear. I don't even think that Reform, for example, is particularly right wing at all.

You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.

The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.

but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.

Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.

+++You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.+++

Actually, I work for a private company that's contracted by the council to run the senior citizens' activity club at the leisure centre. Is that an example of a "subsidised" job in your opinion?

Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.+++

So you're quite posh then, with private health insurance. And a snob too, to call me a gammon. How typical.

And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.+++

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Can you describe what red looks like, please? And white?

+++Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.+++

According to Grok, in 2020, the year we left the EU, the UK spent over a billion pounds a week extra on the NHS than it had planned to, because of the pandemic. What's telling is that Remoaners were still going on about that so-called promise, too thick to realise that it had been fulfilled, three times over.

That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.

Maia wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:42 pm Those following the news in the UK will no doubt be aware of a sudden outpouring of national pride, some might even say national stubbornness, across England during this past week, and I do specifically mean England here, with English flags, the Cross of St. George, going up everywhere, by the thousands, on lampposts and all other available places. In some areas, including Birmingham, the local council has been taking them down (though it can't collect rubbish), but like the hydra, for every one taken down, dozens go up in its place. Essentially, the English have now had enough, and they're showing it. As Kipling said, the English are a people who, collectively, are very, very slow to anger, but those who have confused this fact with weakness have made a very serious miscalculation.

In the main shopping area near me loads have apparently appeared this very morning. I walk through it every day, and I must confess to being a little bit sad that I can't see them, a twinge of regret that I almost never feel, if I'm being honest, but just occasionally, something sets it off. Not that it matters, as I can fully appreciate and be part of what it represents. What it represents, of course, is hope.

I do not understand why you particularized your statement. It puzzles me.
Now, to say, I wish I could see, would have been perfectly comprehensible.
I wish I could think in accordance with the truth of things.

At any rate, it is not any particular thing that gives us hope, it is our ability to use things in general for a purpose, i.e., to have a job to do and the ability to do it.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:17 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:27 am Just looked at the demographics of Birmingham. JFC. What a dump it must be.

Good work racist grandma.

Ooh, I'm so 'offended'. The only one who has mentioned 'race' is you God you wokists are thick. The biggest racists are you lot. You are obsessed with 'race' and talk about it CONSTANTLY, all while demanding that no one else mention it EVER like the jumped up little fascist turds that you are.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:20 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:17 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:27 am Just looked at the demographics of Birmingham. JFC. What a dump it must be.

Good work racist grandma.

Ooh, I'm so 'offended'. The only one who has mentioned 'race' is you God you wokists are thick. The biggest racists are you lot. You are obsessed with 'race' and talk about it CONSTANTLY, all while demanding that no one else mention it EVER like the jumped up little fascist turds that you are.

I am still trying to figure out when the human race will begin and where it will be held.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:10 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:01 am
You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.

The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.

but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.

Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.

+++You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.+++

Actually, I work for a private company that's contracted by the council to run the senior citizens' activity club at the leisure centre. Is that an example of a "subsidised" job in your opinion?

Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.+++

So you're quite posh then, with private health insurance. And a snob too, to call me a gammon. How typical.

And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.+++

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Can you describe what red looks like, please? And white?

+++Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.+++

According to Grok, in 2020, the year we left the EU, the UK spent over a billion pounds a week extra on the NHS than it had planned to, because of the pandemic. What's telling is that Remoaners were still going on about that so-called promise, too thick to realise that it had been fulfilled, three times over.

That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.

Could you BE a bigger ****? She just handed you your arse on a plate, thicko. Now why don't you just accept defeat and slither back under the racist, fascist, ageist, classist, misogynistic rock you slithered out from. You make a bigger fool of yourself with each post.

So because Maia's employer didn't make the buildings that they use then Mais must be a 'DEI' hire, a practice which you evidently loathe and look down on. Is everyone who works there a 'DEI' hire? Why would you assume Maia is? You really don't have a lot to redeem you old man. All that faux righteous 'social warrioring' must be exhausting to keep track of, poor thing.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:10 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 11:01 am
You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.

The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.

but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.

Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.

+++You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.+++

Actually, I work for a private company that's contracted by the council to run the senior citizens' activity club at the leisure centre. Is that an example of a "subsidised" job in your opinion?

Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.+++

So you're quite posh then, with private health insurance. And a snob too, to call me a gammon. How typical.

And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.+++

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Can you describe what red looks like, please? And white?

+++Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.+++

According to Grok, in 2020, the year we left the EU, the UK spent over a billion pounds a week extra on the NHS than it had planned to, because of the pandemic. What's telling is that Remoaners were still going on about that so-called promise, too thick to realise that it had been fulfilled, three times over.

That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.

+++Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.+++

Under your definition then, it seems that any employee of any service provided by the state or local authorities, or by any company on their behalf, is in a "subsidised" job, no matter how essential that service is for a properly functioning society. If not, I can't work out what you mean.

+++And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.+++

Eh?

+++That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.+++

Most of it was probably transferred digitally, without any need to brother printing it at all. Or did you mean something else?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:17 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:42 pm Those following the news in the UK will no doubt be aware of a sudden outpouring of national pride, some might even say national stubbornness, across England during this past week, and I do specifically mean England here, with English flags, the Cross of St. George, going up everywhere, by the thousands, on lampposts and all other available places. In some areas, including Birmingham, the local council has been taking them down (though it can't collect rubbish), but like the hydra, for every one taken down, dozens go up in its place. Essentially, the English have now had enough, and they're showing it. As Kipling said, the English are a people who, collectively, are very, very slow to anger, but those who have confused this fact with weakness have made a very serious miscalculation.

In the main shopping area near me loads have apparently appeared this very morning. I walk through it every day, and I must confess to being a little bit sad that I can't see them, a twinge of regret that I almost never feel, if I'm being honest, but just occasionally, something sets it off. Not that it matters, as I can fully appreciate and be part of what it represents. What it represents, of course, is hope.

I do not understand why you particularized your statement. It puzzles me.
Now, to say, I wish I could see, would have been perfectly comprehensible.
I wish I could think in accordance with the truth of things.

At any rate, it is not any particular thing that gives us hope, it is our ability to use things in general for a purpose, i.e., to have a job to do and the ability to do it.

To say, "I wish I could see" would be an untrue statement, as it would imply that it's something that's constantly on my mind, which it simply isn't. I do, however, as I described above, occasionally regret not being able to see something, usually for the most trivial and fleeting of reasons.

Okay, a bunch of senile people arguing over how to make a better patchwork quilt.

gibberish.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:28 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:10 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm

+++You work at a council owned leisure centre in a subsidised job. Last I knew Reform was dedicated to absolutely massive tax cuts including a 20k raise to the threshold for higher rate income taxes and setting the inheritance tax threshold at 2 million along with a bunch of other stuff to reduce the amount that people like me pay to subsidise people like you. Maybe your job isn't DEI, that won't matter much when it's gone.+++

Actually, I work for a private company that's contracted by the council to run the senior citizens' activity club at the leisure centre. Is that an example of a "subsidised" job in your opinion?

Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++The immigration stuff is mostly impossible and they know it. Just like they knew all the benefits of Brexit that they sold to you chumps were going to evaporate. You gammons always fall for a populist story about how your common enemy is easy to spot and there's this one simple trick to fix things. But it's fine, Farage and pals gets their tax cuts, that's the real point. The NHS becomes a voucher scheme, but Farage has private health insurance and so do I, so we are ok, it's just you that isn't. And nothing happens about immigration because it was never going to.+++

So you're quite posh then, with private health insurance. And a snob too, to call me a gammon. How typical.

And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 4:54 pm +++but enjoy imagining your flags. They are a red cross on a white background. There are so many other sights that would be cool for you to see, it's a shame your horizons are so limited.+++

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. Can you describe what red looks like, please? And white?

+++Just remember, the people who told you Brexit would mean 350 million pounds a week for the NHS were lying then - and they knew it perfectly well. People like me told people like you that, and you all said "project fear" and bought the lie. Those people are back again, and you are stupid enough to be played the same way twice.+++

According to Grok, in 2020, the year we left the EU, the UK spent over a billion pounds a week extra on the NHS than it had planned to, because of the pandemic. What's telling is that Remoaners were still going on about that so-called promise, too thick to realise that it had been fulfilled, three times over.

That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.

+++Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.+++

Under your definition then, it seems that any employee of any service provided by the state or local authorities, or by any company on their behalf, is in a "subsidised" job, no matter how essential that service is for a properly functioning society. If not, I can't work out what you mean.

If the council has their budget for leisure centres cut then you are out of a job because you are paid for by the council subsidy. This is not difficult to understand. Your wages are paid by subsidy. You are a subsidised.

The mega-tories you promote will cut taxes by 90 billion pounds - and that money will be going to me not you - so your local council that keeps you in paid subsidised employment will suffer huge cuts to its central government grants as well as to programs from central govt that directly support the facilities.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:28 pm +++And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.+++

Eh?

+++That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.+++

Most of it was probably transferred digitally, without any need to brother printing it at all. Or did you mean something else?

Oh my God are you being serious right now? Google "quantitative easing uk 2020". The extra money for the NHS wasn't UK taxes being brought back from Brussells.

Seriously, you are one undereducated gammon. No wonder you live for populist bullshit. You need to start getting your information from something other than X or Facebook pages run by racists or whatever bullshit artists are stringing you along.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:58 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:28 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:10 pm
Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.


And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.


That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.

+++Of course it is subsidised. Did your company provide the site for the building, financing for construction, and now operate the site on income from ticket sales at the door? Don't be silly at me.+++

Under your definition then, it seems that any employee of any service provided by the state or local authorities, or by any company on their behalf, is in a "subsidised" job, no matter how essential that service is for a properly functioning society. If not, I can't work out what you mean.

If the council has their budget for leisure centres cut then you are out of a job because you are paid for by the council subsidy. This is not difficult to understand. Your wages are paid by subsidy. You are a subsidised.

The mega-tories you promote will cut taxes by 90 billion pounds - and that money will be going to me not you - so your local council that keeps you in paid subsidised employment will suffer huge cuts to its central government grants as well as to programs from central govt that directly support the facilities.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:28 pm +++And you're supposed to be one of those "facts don't care about your feelings" people, but here we are, with you whining because the facts are not going to support you, and neither will the NHS when you have won your spiteful little war.+++

Eh?

+++That was printed money. The NHS is not better funded today because of Brexit.+++

Most of it was probably transferred digitally, without any need to brother printing it at all. Or did you mean something else?

Oh my God are you being serious right now? Google "quantitative easing uk 2020". The extra money for the NHS wasn't UK taxes being brought back from Brussells.

Seriously, you are one undereducated gammon. No wonder you live for populist bullshit. You need to start getting your information from something other than X or Facebook pages run by racists or whatever bullshit artists are stringing you along.

+++If the council has their budget for leisure centres cut then you are out of a job because you are paid for by the council subsidy. This is not difficult to understand. Your wages are paid by subsidy. You are a subsidised.

The mega-tories you promote will cut taxes by 90 billion pounds - and that money will be going to me not you - so your local council that keeps you in paid subsidised employment will suffer huge cuts to its central government grants as well as to programs from central govt that directly support the facilities.+++

You appear to have assumed that I'm a Reform supporter.

+++Oh my God are you being serious right now? Google "quantitative easing uk 2020". The extra money for the NHS wasn't UK taxes being brought back from Brussells.

Seriously, you are one undereducated gammon. No wonder you live for populist bullshit. You need to start getting your information from something other than X or Facebook pages run by racists or whatever bullshit artists are stringing you along.+++

So, when they did quantitative easing, was most of this money transferred digitally, or did they print it all out? Please note that I said nothing about Brussels.