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Re: Certainty
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:50 am
by Age
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:11 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:15 am
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am
After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…
I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.
If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.
So there’s my question
-Oliver
I am not sure where is 'your question', here.
But, if you would like 'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'? then just let me know, as 'the answer'' is extremely simple, and easy.
However if you are looking for something else, and/or 'your question', is something else, then okay. If you like you can also let me know.
What is your ‘said’ answer
What is my 'said answer' to what 'said question', exactly?
you, obviously, have not yet 'said', nor written, 'the question', clearly, which you appear to be seeking 'an answer' to, here.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:51 pm
by Ollie.ha
'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
Re: Certainty
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:03 pm
by Impenitent
How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
kicking a sleeping dog is a bad idea...
-Imp
Re: Certainty
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:20 pm
by Dubious
Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:03 pm
How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
As long as there's a separation between subject and contemplated object, there is no such thing as being
absolutely certain about anything.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:55 am
by Ollie.ha
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:51 pm
'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
This is my question
Re: Certainty
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:36 am
by popeye1945
Truth is experience to the individual, to a group of individuals, it is a collective agreement.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:41 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
I am invincibly absolutely certain of nature's (qualitatively) unchangeable eternal infinity.
I'm also relatedly invincibly absolutely >certain< that there is no consensual, consilient, warranted, justified, true reason to know anything but nature. That God proves His existence by denying it 110%
And, again, matter does mind. Obviously. Unquestionably.
No argument.
Or rather nothing but fallacious fantasies.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:57 am
by Ollie.ha
I think if you took two elements, and introduced them to each other, you should be able to check for the equality of said objects….
So like comparing “best” with “script”
Re: Certainty
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:35 am
by Age
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:51 pm
'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
Through, and by, agreement and acceptance, obviously.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:37 am
by Age
Dubious wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:20 pm
Impenitent wrote: ↑Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:03 pm
How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'?
As long as there's a separation between subject and contemplated object, there is no such thing as being
absolutely certain about anything.
How many of 'these people' are going to make absolute (truth) claims about there being no absolute (truth) claims.
And, how many times do 'they' have to be asked things like, 'Can you really not yet see the contradiction in 'the claim', itself?'
Re: Certainty
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:39 am
by Age
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:41 pm
I am invincibly absolutely certain of nature's
(qualitatively) unchangeable eternal infinity.
I'm also relatedly invincibly absolutely that there is no consensual, consilient, warranted, justified, true reason to know anything but nature. That God proves His existence by denying it 110%
Why does 'this one' keep going on about God proving Its existence by denying it?
Also, notice how many people, here, in the days when this was being written, consistently believed and claimed that God was 'male gendered'?
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:41 pm
And, again, matter does mind. Obviously. Unquestionably.
No argument.
Or rather nothing but fallacious fantasies.
As 'this one' would say.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:07 pm
by Ollie.ha
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:41 pm
I am invincibly absolutely certain of nature's
(qualitatively) unchangeable eternal infinity.
I'm also relatedly invincibly absolutely >certain< that there is no consensual, consilient, warranted, justified, true reason to know anything but nature. That God proves His existence by denying it 110%
And, again, matter does mind. Obviously. Unquestionably.
No argument.
Or rather nothing but fallacious fantasies.
I actually thought this was incredibly insightful and very helpful at paining a picture of both the conflict and agreeing of certainty and uncertainty. Almost like a poem…
Re: Certainty
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:34 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 7:07 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:41 pm
I am invincibly absolutely certain of nature's
(qualitatively) unchangeable eternal infinity.
I'm also relatedly invincibly absolutely >certain< that there is no consensual, consilient, warranted, justified, true reason to know anything but nature. That God proves His existence by denying it 110%
And, again, matter does mind. Obviously. Unquestionably.
No argument.
Or rather nothing but fallacious fantasies.
I actually thought this was incredibly insightful and very helpful at paining a picture of both the conflict and agreeing of certainty and uncertainty. Almost like a poem…
You're too kind Ollie.ha.
I can speak only for my own interiority. Which nothing from kinder, smarter, better educated, more artistic, articulate, sensitive people can touch.
Re: Certainty
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:55 pm
by Ollie.ha
There’s a difference between applying something and realizing it…
Re: Certainty
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:35 am
by popeye1945
Ollie.ha wrote: ↑Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:55 pm
There’s a difference between applying something and realizing it…
The will, or the state of the will, active or inactive.