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Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:03 am
by Dubious
attofishpi wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:07 am
ThinkOfOne wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:31 pm Thanks. Is this a synopsis of only one video or is it a synthesis of the two?
It was a synopsis of the second video - since it was shorter, but appeared to be covering the points in the first video. I only watched the first one and when I clicked on the second they seemed to talk about the same dilemma revolving on loss of critical thinking.
If you don't mind me asking, what program did you use to create such a neat summary?

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:15 am
by attofishpi
Dubious wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:03 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:07 am
ThinkOfOne wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:31 pm Thanks. Is this a synopsis of only one video or is it a synthesis of the two?
It was a synopsis of the second video - since it was shorter, but appeared to be covering the points in the first video. I only watched the first one and when I clicked on the second they seemed to talk about the same dilemma revolving on loss of critical thinking.
If you don't mind me asking, what program did you use to create such a neat summary?
Of course I don't mind my favourite atheist asking. :lol:

I've been doing this technique:

1. In the utube video webpage I click on 'show transcript'
2. click the remove timestamp <-- not sure of exact wording, you'll word it out!
3. copy the entire transript.
4. I find chatGPT sufficient to use for the prompt-->output formatting
5. Prompt, something like this:- 'I am going to past a utube transcript and from that make a synopsis with output for a philosphy forum in phpBB format highlighting key points'

Hey presto!

PS: Pissed off I had to tell all the others on the forum my little secret!! :mrgreen:

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:37 am
by Dubious
attofishpi wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:15 am
Dubious wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:03 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:07 am

It was a synopsis of the second video - since it was shorter, but appeared to be covering the points in the first video. I only watched the first one and when I clicked on the second they seemed to talk about the same dilemma revolving on loss of critical thinking.
If you don't mind me asking, what program did you use to create such a neat summary?
Of course I don't mind my favourite atheist asking. :lol:

I've been doing this technique:

1. In the utube video webpage I click on 'show transcript'
2. click the remove timestamp <-- not sure of exact wording, you'll word it out!
3. copy the entire transript.
4. I find chatGPT sufficient to use for the prompt-->output formatting
5. Prompt, something like this:- 'I am going to past a utube transcript and from that make a synopsis with output for a philosphy forum in phpBB format highlighting key points'

Hey presto!

PS: Pissed off I had to tell all the others on the forum my little secret!! :mrgreen:
We are all, me especially, supremely grateful in you having been so generous in dispensing such privileged information to the great unwashed active on the forum. I'm as sure god will reward you as much as he will damn me for so vehemently insisting on his non-entity! Understandable! No one likes to be ignored, especially god.

The final Great Reckoning, I fear, may not be in my favor!

...but for the time-being, which amounts to the time still left :?: , I much appreciate the info! :)

Thank you!

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:06 am
by attofishpi
I don't think GOD cares that people are wrong. :mrgreen:

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:20 am
by Fairy
Impenitent wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:19 pm
Fairy wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:37 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:33 am

We just can't beat AI when it comes to the speed game!
Well they’re always going to be millions of steps beyond the temporal finite mind that is human.
A.I. Has knowledge of every book that was ever written in the entire history of the universe itself.

Godspeed! 🤓
no, AI can regurgitate that which written verbatim.

it neither knows nor understands...

-Imp
Regurgitate, yes. Knows and understands, NO 😳

All knowledge can do is point to the artificial illusory nature of reality, in other words A.I.

GOdspeed! 😎

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:06 am
by LuckyR
ThinkOfOne wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:35 pm  Have we entered an Age of Unreason?

Solid facts are becoming increasingly unimportant to more and more people...
...sound reasoning is becoming increasingly unimportant to more and more people...
...with increasing numbers who are convinced that their unreason IS based on reason.

Perhaps better termed an Age of Delusion?
I get what you're saying, but I prefer the label: Post-Truth Era.

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:23 pm
by commonsense
Unreason represents the absence of reason.

The correct term for the current age is anti-reason.

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:33 pm
by futureone
Ironically I would like the Original Post to have included some cold hard facts. Stating the statistics of how many people use facts and reason and more to it than that.

With the internet and Ai it is easier to get facts than ever before.

Unreason relative to what year?

Certainly there is more reason in 2025 than the year 1525.

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:22 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Impenitent wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:19 pm
Fairy wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:37 am
Dubious wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:33 am

We just can't beat AI when it comes to the speed game!
Well they’re always going to be millions of steps beyond the temporal finite mind that is human.
A.I. Has knowledge of every book that was ever written in the entire history of the universe itself.

Godspeed! 🤓
no, AI can regurgitate that which written verbatim.

it neither knows nor understands...

-Imp
And what about the multiverse?

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:47 am
by Belinda
Of course people are become stupider. This political strategy is an ancient way for regimes to keep close control of the people. The Taliban of Afghanistan are a blatant example where girls are not allowed to go to school. In the US, Trump is at war with America's best university and knowledgeable people are being called'"woke".

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:08 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Belinda wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:47 am Of course people are become stupider. This political strategy is an ancient way for regimes to keep close control of the people. The Taliban of Afghanistan are a blatant example where girls are not allowed to go to school. In the US, Trump is at war with America's best university and knowledgeable people are being called'"woke".
Only if they're liberal. I'm not aware of knowledgeable conservatives being called "woke". The white working class do not want to know. And they are far from stupid. If you want to be really woke, really liberal, you have to include them FIRST. Not only appeal to a rainbow coalition of everyone else. This is not morality, it's politics.

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:50 pm
by Belinda
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:08 pm
Belinda wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:47 am Of course people are become stupider. This political strategy is an ancient way for regimes to keep close control of the people. The Taliban of Afghanistan are a blatant example where girls are not allowed to go to school. In the US, Trump is at war with America's best university and knowledgeable people are being called'"woke".
Only if they're liberal. I'm not aware of knowledgeable conservatives being called "woke". The white working class do not want to know. And they are far from stupid. If you want to be really woke, really liberal, you have to include them FIRST. Not only appeal to a rainbow coalition of everyone else. This is not morality, it's politics.
It's politics for sure.

Deference and inferiority are always required by social elites , colonialists, and dictators towards underlings.

Notice how elite private schools in Britain work to maintain and further elite social performances. Notice how old Hollywood movies used to portray negroes as lovable but basically deferential domestic servants .

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:24 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Belinda wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:50 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:08 pm
Belinda wrote: Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:47 am Of course people are become stupider. This political strategy is an ancient way for regimes to keep close control of the people. The Taliban of Afghanistan are a blatant example where girls are not allowed to go to school. In the US, Trump is at war with America's best university and knowledgeable people are being called'"woke".
Only if they're liberal. I'm not aware of knowledgeable conservatives being called "woke". The white working class do not want to know. And they are far from stupid. If you want to be really woke, really liberal, you have to include them FIRST. Not only appeal to a rainbow coalition of everyone else. This is not morality, it's politics.
It's politics for sure.

Deference and inferiority are always required by social elites , colonialists, and dictators towards underlings.

Notice how elite private schools in Britain work to maintain and further elite social performances. Notice how old Hollywood movies used to portray negroes as lovable but basically deferential domestic servants .
Non sequitur.

Re: Age of Unreason

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:26 pm
by Phil8659
ThinkOfOne wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 4:35 pm  Have we entered an Age of Unreason?

Solid facts are becoming increasingly unimportant to more and more people...
...sound reasoning is becoming increasingly unimportant to more and more people...
...with increasing numbers who are convinced that their unreason IS based on reason.

Perhaps better termed an Age of Delusion?
And at what point in human history had mankind ever achieved the ability to reason. Or have you mistaken historic parroting as reasoning?
As all reasoning is afforded by binary recursion, point to any time in history when a Grammar Matrix, i.e., our four binary systems of grammar, were accepted and maintained as Law?

Now there are works which claim that the age of reasoning will come to mankind, and plenty of people who claim it has come at some time in our past, however, the standard for what reasoning its, the ability and practice of using binary recursion for the betterment of humanity, has never been achieved, therefore, you incur a tense error, for that time is yet to come.

Thinking that a train has left the station long before it has arrived, is a mistake only made by those who sleep on benches.