What is time Fundamentally?

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Re: What is time Fundamentally?

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Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?

What is time? Time is energy at work on the duration and movement of matter. This process, unperceived, is meaningless; perceived, it is time.










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popeye1945 wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:46 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?

What is time? Time is energy at work on the duration and movement of matter. This process, unperceived, is meaningless; perceived, it is time.










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I think its meaning less to think about what time is?, basically it doesn't even matter the way it complexity make this world more wired places than ever it just feel awful to think every time what actually time is,its just like drowing in the water and asking what is water?
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Re: What is time Fundamentally?

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Age wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:45 am
Anark wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:37 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am

'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.
The world is a complex place where things are different from what it seems to be.what if it is something more than the difference between before and after?
But, contrary to the popular belief, in the days when this is being written, 'the world' is not complex at all. In fact it is the very opposite, which is what is actually True, and Right.
When i see the sky I cannot see anything but emptiness even in night which has dots which we called star Just feel empty..,who has seen the stars Millions light years away from us? Is you? Or anyone in mankind? Just we have some hollow evidence we cannot accept that there is something which we called stars "a giant sphere of plasma" exist..,thats where the world complexity is, the things we called Truth and right does even has meaning at all.
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Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:42 am
Age wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:45 am
Anark wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:37 pm

The world is a complex place where things are different from what it seems to be.what if it is something more than the difference between before and after?
But, contrary to the popular belief, in the days when this is being written, 'the world' is not complex at all. In fact it is the very opposite, which is what is actually True, and Right.
When i see the sky I cannot see anything but emptiness even in night which has dots which we called star Just feel empty..,who has seen the stars Millions light years away from us? Is you? Or anyone in mankind? Just we have some hollow evidence we cannot accept that there is something which we called stars "a giant sphere of plasma" exist..,thats where the world complexity is, the things we called Truth and right does even has meaning at all.
But, there is absolutely no 'complexity' at all, even, 'there'.

But, then again, 'I' do 'look at' and 'see' things different from 'you' adult human beings.

Now, what 'you' may not be able to 'see', with the visible eyes, 'we' can 'see' [understand] with the invisible Eye, also known as, 'The Mind'.

And, what the Mind can 'see' is that no matter how far 'I/t' looks away from earth there is not some magical limiter, border, boundary, nor 'fence'.

And, as always, if absolutely any one would like to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion about what the word, 'time', is in relation to, exactly, and even the word, 'space', and how with the word, 'matter', what can be and will be 'seen', and completely understood, is that the Universe, Itself, is actually infinite and eternal. And, depending on how one is 'looking' and 'seeing' things, here, 'time' and 'space' do not even exist, at all, also.

But, as usual, explaining, proving, and understanding 'these concepts and Truths' is not hard nor complex at all. Finding a human being who is really open to learning, who really does want to learn, who is not preoccupied with some other things, and who, genuinely, just wants to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion is about the only 'real hard' thing, here.

Just expressing, 'new', ideas while providing irrefutable proof is, really, a very simple and easy process.
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Re: What is time Fundamentally?

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Age wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:20 am
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:42 am
Age wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:45 am

But, contrary to the popular belief, in the days when this is being written, 'the world' is not complex at all. In fact it is the very opposite, which is what is actually True, and Right.
When i see the sky I cannot see anything but emptiness even in night which has dots which we called star Just feel empty..,who has seen the stars Millions light years away from us? Is you? Or anyone in mankind? Just we have some hollow evidence we cannot accept that there is something which we called stars "a giant sphere of plasma" exist..,thats where the world complexity is, the things we called Truth and right does even has meaning at all.
But, there is absolutely no 'complexity' at all, even, 'there'.

But, then again, 'I' do 'look at' and 'see' things different from 'you' adult human beings.

Now, what 'you' may not be able to 'see', with the visible eyes, 'we' can 'see' [understand] with the invisible Eye, also known as, 'The Mind'.

And, what the Mind can 'see' is that no matter how far 'I/t' looks away from earth there is not some magical limiter, border, boundary, nor 'fence'.

And, as always, if absolutely any one would like to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion about what the word, 'time', is in relation to, exactly, and even the word, 'space', and how with the word, 'matter', what can be and will be 'seen', and completely understood, is that the Universe, Itself, is actually infinite and eternal. And, depending on how one is 'looking' and 'seeing' things, here, 'time' and 'space' do not even exist, at all, also.

But, as usual, explaining, proving, and understanding 'these concepts and Truths' is not hard nor complex at all. Finding a human being who is really open to learning, who really does want to learn, who is not preoccupied with some other things, and who, genuinely, just wants to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion is about the only 'real hard' thing, here.

Just expressing, 'new', ideas while providing irrefutable proof is, really, a very simple and easy process.
Quite impressive idealism you have ,but simplicity of this world make its more complex , theirs no way I know you nor you know me but then also we are discussing something(this saw complexity of the world ),if we say this world is infinite and we use our invisible eye[mind] to see this infinite even though we never ever gone see from our own visible eye ,and what actually "Truth is" is the real subject of being a concious person,lets say the way you are seeing this text and I seeing this text is different and the one who is reading this text beside us has different phase. we never gonna know from where,how and what cordinate of space time I am or you are(reading one) and nor there face nor name and if you say by asking one we can know but does they say so and why they? That's what the complexity is my friend.if we say this world is "simple and Truthfull" then its just irrefutable lie of this world . that's what I think
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Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am
Age wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:20 am
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:42 am
When i see the sky I cannot see anything but emptiness even in night which has dots which we called star Just feel empty..,who has seen the stars Millions light years away from us? Is you? Or anyone in mankind? Just we have some hollow evidence we cannot accept that there is something which we called stars "a giant sphere of plasma" exist..,thats where the world complexity is, the things we called Truth and right does even has meaning at all.
But, there is absolutely no 'complexity' at all, even, 'there'.

But, then again, 'I' do 'look at' and 'see' things different from 'you' adult human beings.

Now, what 'you' may not be able to 'see', with the visible eyes, 'we' can 'see' [understand] with the invisible Eye, also known as, 'The Mind'.

And, what the Mind can 'see' is that no matter how far 'I/t' looks away from earth there is not some magical limiter, border, boundary, nor 'fence'.

And, as always, if absolutely any one would like to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion about what the word, 'time', is in relation to, exactly, and even the word, 'space', and how with the word, 'matter', what can be and will be 'seen', and completely understood, is that the Universe, Itself, is actually infinite and eternal. And, depending on how one is 'looking' and 'seeing' things, here, 'time' and 'space' do not even exist, at all, also.

But, as usual, explaining, proving, and understanding 'these concepts and Truths' is not hard nor complex at all. Finding a human being who is really open to learning, who really does want to learn, who is not preoccupied with some other things, and who, genuinely, just wants to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion is about the only 'real hard' thing, here.

Just expressing, 'new', ideas while providing irrefutable proof is, really, a very simple and easy process.
Quite impressive idealism you have ,but simplicity of this world make its more complex , theirs no way I know you nor you know me but then also we are discussing something(this saw complexity of the world ),
But, 'I' do know 'you'.

'I' know who, and what, 'you' are, exactly. As well as how, and why, 'you' become 'the way' 'you' are, exactly.

'I' also know that what 'you' perceive as 'idealism' has absolutely no bearing at all on whether 'it' is actually True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, or not.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is infinite and we use our invisible eye[mind] to see this infinite even though we never ever gone see from our own visible eye ,and what actually "Truth is" is the real subject of being a concious person,lets say the way you are seeing this text and I seeing this text is different and the one who is reading this text beside us has different phase. we never gonna know from where,how and what cordinate of space time I am or you are(reading one) and nor there face nor name and if you say by asking one we can know but does they say so and why they?
'you' may not be able to do 'these things' at all. But, 'I' certainly can.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am That's what the complexity is my friend.
But, once more, there is absolutely no complexity, at all, anywhere, here. Well for 'me' anyway.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is "simple and Truthfull" then its just irrefutable lie of this world . that's what I think
And, what 'you think', here, 'you' believe is absolutely true, and right, correct?
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Re: What is time Fundamentally?

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Age wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:22 am
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am
Age wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:20 am

But, there is absolutely no 'complexity' at all, even, 'there'.

But, then again, 'I' do 'look at' and 'see' things different from 'you' adult human beings.

Now, what 'you' may not be able to 'see', with the visible eyes, 'we' can 'see' [understand] with the invisible Eye, also known as, 'The Mind'.

And, what the Mind can 'see' is that no matter how far 'I/t' looks away from earth there is not some magical limiter, border, boundary, nor 'fence'.

And, as always, if absolutely any one would like to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion about what the word, 'time', is in relation to, exactly, and even the word, 'space', and how with the word, 'matter', what can be and will be 'seen', and completely understood, is that the Universe, Itself, is actually infinite and eternal. And, depending on how one is 'looking' and 'seeing' things, here, 'time' and 'space' do not even exist, at all, also.

But, as usual, explaining, proving, and understanding 'these concepts and Truths' is not hard nor complex at all. Finding a human being who is really open to learning, who really does want to learn, who is not preoccupied with some other things, and who, genuinely, just wants to have a Truly open and honest peaceful discussion is about the only 'real hard' thing, here.

Just expressing, 'new', ideas while providing irrefutable proof is, really, a very simple and easy process.
Quite impressive idealism you have ,but simplicity of this world make its more complex , theirs no way I know you nor you know me but then also we are discussing something(this saw complexity of the world ),
But, 'I' do know 'you'.

'I' know who, and what, 'you' are, exactly. As well as how, and why, 'you' become 'the way' 'you' are, exactly.

'I' also know that what 'you' perceive as 'idealism' has absolutely no bearing at all on whether 'it' is actually True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, or not.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is infinite and we use our invisible eye[mind] to see this infinite even though we never ever gone see from our own visible eye ,and what actually "Truth is" is the real subject of being a concious person,lets say the way you are seeing this text and I seeing this text is different and the one who is reading this text beside us has different phase. we never gonna know from where,how and what cordinate of space time I am or you are(reading one) and nor there face nor name and if you say by asking one we can know but does they say so and why they?
'you' may not be able to do 'these things' at all. But, 'I' certainly can.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am That's what the complexity is my friend.
But, once more, there is absolutely no complexity, at all, anywhere, here. Well for 'me' anyway.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is "simple and Truthfull" then its just irrefutable lie of this world . that's what I think
And, what 'you think', here, 'you' believe is absolutely true, and right, correct?
all.
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Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:01 pm
Age wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:22 am
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am

Quite impressive idealism you have ,but simplicity of this world make its more complex , theirs no way I know you nor you know me but then also we are discussing something(this saw complexity of the world ),
But, 'I' do know 'you'.

'I' know who, and what, 'you' are, exactly. As well as how, and why, 'you' become 'the way' 'you' are, exactly.

'I' also know that what 'you' perceive as 'idealism' has absolutely no bearing at all on whether 'it' is actually True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, or not.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is infinite and we use our invisible eye[mind] to see this infinite even though we never ever gone see from our own visible eye ,and what actually "Truth is" is the real subject of being a concious person,lets say the way you are seeing this text and I seeing this text is different and the one who is reading this text beside us has different phase. we never gonna know from where,how and what cordinate of space time I am or you are(reading one) and nor there face nor name and if you say by asking one we can know but does they say so and why they?
'you' may not be able to do 'these things' at all. But, 'I' certainly can.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am That's what the complexity is my friend.
But, once more, there is absolutely no complexity, at all, anywhere, here. Well for 'me' anyway.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:12 am if we say this world is "simple and Truthfull" then its just irrefutable lie of this world . that's what I think
And, what 'you think', here, 'you' believe is absolutely true, and right, correct?
Sorry if I'd said something wrong,
Why apologise for some thing that you most likely will just do again anyway?

And, what do you mean by, 'if'?

Are you not sure if you said some thing wrong, or not?
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:01 pm but individually know one knows anyone even though to close one's,the way you see and I see this world is different you may have more knowledge and ambitiousness towards this world but from where I see this world there's nothing but emptiness,
If 'emptiness' if all, and only, what 'you' see, here, then okay.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:01 pm the mankind is falling apart there's only war and injustice the life are not treated equally people are not even realising what is right and wrong, justice is just a word,corruption is the only government I know,
Again, if 'this' is all and only what 'you' can see, then okay.

'I' do understand.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:01 pm The way people just adjust in this mess makes me people sick
Even Deaths are been treated as small accident,Therefore I'd said the world is complex truth is not distinct for everyone I don't want any arguments or something but that what i see, In this infinite we never even realise when our finite world is going to be end and thats what I mean by complexity of this world.
Once again that all 'you' can see is 'complexity' is totally understandable. Well to 'me' anyway.

See, if 'you' also knew, exactly, why all of you human beings 'see' and 'do' what 'you' all do, then 'you' will also understand fully and every thing, here, and so 'you', too, will 'see' how there is actually nothing complex, nor even hard, here, at all.
Anark wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:01 pm the main subject of mine by complexity is there's nothing we can do or we know just at all.
But, there is, relative, quite a lot you adults can all do to change, for the better, as well as to know in regards to absolutely every thing and all in relation to the Truly meaningful things, in Life.
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Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
No. All that time is, is now. Time passed is merely memory or history. Future time is only expectation or hope. Only now is.
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I think a great way to gain insight into the true nature of time is to consider a thought experiment, What if Time Stopped?

If Time stopped, does matter and energy still exist?
If so, does it serve any purpose as no change can occur?
What remains without Time?
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when time is no longer measured locally, does it continue to exist?

example- JFK was shot and died 11-22-1963... we measure time since his death, but he doesn't...

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Impenitent wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:30 pm when time is no longer measured locally, does it continue to exist?

example- JFK was shot and died 11-22-1963... we measure time since his death, but he doesn't...

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How do you know he doesn’t?
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commonsense wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 9:41 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:30 pm when time is no longer measured locally, does it continue to exist?

example- JFK was shot and died 11-22-1963... we measure time since his death, but he doesn't...

-Imp
How do you know he doesn’t?
he hasn't wound his watch

-Imp
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Impenitent wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 10:30 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 9:41 pm
Impenitent wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:30 pm when time is no longer measured locally, does it continue to exist?

example- JFK was shot and died 11-22-1963... we measure time since his death, but he doesn't...

-Imp
How do you know he doesn’t?
he hasn't wound his watch

-Imp
I believe you presently.
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Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
Consciousness of space, movement, duration, and matter
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