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iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:57 pm Philosophy?

See, nothing to it.

Exactly!

What is known are 'thoughts'. Thoughts are known, and this known knows nothing.

Nothing knows.

Philosophy is all about thought. But where is thought, where is the thinker?


This is also what God is. God is nothing and yet everything, same thing.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:28 am

iambiguous wrote: ↑Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:57 pm Philosophy?

See, nothing to it.

Exactly!

What is known are 'thoughts'. Thoughts are known, and this known knows nothing.

Nothing knows.

Philosophy is all about thought. But where is thought, where is the thinker?


This is also what God is. God is nothing and yet everything, same thing.

We'll need a context, of course. Thoughts about what?

Also, what can we determine to be true objectively for all of us? And what, instead, simply perpetuates conflicting moral and political and spiritual prejudices?

There either are objective truths about reality,
or there aren't objective truths about reality.

Except, if there aren't objective truths about reality -
that itself would be an objective truth about reality.

Thus, to claim there are no objective truths about reality,
would be self contradicting i.e. not possible.

Thus, there are objective truths about reality.

James said (perhaps to iam's chagrin) one way to reveal truth,
was to present the lack of any possible alternative.

fairy wrote:this known knows nothing

Knowledge does not know.
Knowers know.

But awareness is something,
and awareness knows something.
Thus, something is known.

Ben JS wrote:Awareness exists.

It can verify itself.

The very attempt to verify it,
verifies it.

If anything is known,
it is known.
And it is known.

Nothing is the absence of something.
As established, awareness is something.
To know, means to be aware of the known.
Thus, nothing does not know.

Furthermore, something cannot connect to nothing.
Thus, nothing cannot be known -
as awareness cannot connect to it.

fairy wrote:Philosophy is all about thought.

Philosophy is all about truth,
and it doesn't stop at only thought.

Ben JS wrote:When we’re young, odds are, we can read the text within a book with no problems. The text is clear and has focus. As we get older, our eyes degenerate and when we look at the same book, the words aren’t clear any more. They’ve lost focus.

Because we understand the problem isn’t shared by other people, the problem isn’t with the book. The book is constant, but our awareness - our ability to connect with ‘reality’- is altered. Therefore, I conclude that our awareness is subject, but there’s something we connect to, that isn’t changing.

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But I get the sense, you're trying to move the goalposts.
Perhaps you want the contents of your claim to be true,
before you attempted to establish whether it is true.

If nothing is known, it would be a false claim to assert that something is known.

But something is known.

I know that characters appear on my screen.

So that nothing is known is a false claim.

commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:31 pm If nothing is known, it would be a false claim to assert that something is known.

But something is known.

I know that characters appear on my screen.

So that nothing is known is a false claim.

Makes sense to me. Sounds like a commonsense approach to things.

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Silence is the Language of God

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 07, 2025 2:18 pm One cannot imagine nothing, but no one can imagine nothing.

Imagining absolutely nothing is absolutely easy, and absolutely simple.

Why can you not just imagine nothing at all?

Ben JS wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:42 pm There either are objective truths about reality,
or there aren't objective truths about reality.

Except, if there aren't objective truths about reality -
that itself would be an objective truth about reality.

Thus, to claim there are no objective truths about reality,
would be self contradicting i.e. not possible.

It is great to see that others can also see, and know, the actual Truth, as well.

Ben JS wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:42 pm Thus, there are objective truths about reality.

And, how to find and know, for sure, the objective Truth, from just the relative truth, is also a very simple and easy process.

For any one else who would like to learn and obtain the know-how, here, then let 'us' just have a discussion.

By whom? I know nothing. Hang on! I can't can I? I can't actually be ignorant and stupid! I know that now. But! Can I know that A is for Apple? Can I know that it's not warm out today?

I know that existence is infinite, by reason. Whether eternalistically or presentistically. Like that knowledge, i,e, coherent, justified true belief, it's all a matter of sigmas isn't it?

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:44 am By whom? I know nothing.

I know nothing is known.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:47 pm

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:44 am By whom? I know nothing.

I know nothing is known.

NOOOOOOO!!!! An infinite paradoxical regress beckons!

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:37 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:47 pm

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:44 am By whom? I know nothing.

I know nothing is known.

NOOOOOOO!!!! An infinite paradoxical regress beckons!

Nothing is known.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:31 pm

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:37 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:47 pm

I know nothing is known.

NOOOOOOO!!!! An infinite paradoxical regress beckons!

Nothing is known.

No it isn't.

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:51 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:31 pm

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:37 pm

NOOOOOOO!!!! An infinite paradoxical regress beckons!

Nothing is known.

No it isn't.

No it isn’t is known.

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:01 pm

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:51 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:31 pm

Nothing is known.

No it isn't.

No it isn’t is known.

Then we know something because we know nothing. I'm an expert on nothing. I know more about nothing than anyone else does. So don't try to fool me.