Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:34 am
Sense is the illusion that there is an illusion.
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Sense is the illusion that there is an illusion.
What is the reality of the apparent and the ultimate?popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:34 am It should be acknowledged which reality you are speaking of, apparent reality or what is called ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a biological readout of the surrounding energies, ultimate reality is a place of no things or unmanifested energy. Pure absence makes no sense whatsoever.
Apparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:35 amWhat is the reality of the apparent and the ultimate?popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:34 am It should be acknowledged which reality you are speaking of, apparent reality or what is called ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a biological readout of the surrounding energies, ultimate reality is a place of no things or unmanifested energy. Pure absence makes no sense whatsoever.
If reality can be divided into these different realities than this division is the reality itself and all realities are connected by this act of distinction where none supercedes the other outside of relative observation and as such reality is purely distinction where apparent and ultimate are merely cycling distinction that are both apparent and ultimate and neither apparent nor ultimate.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 amApparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:35 amWhat is the reality of the apparent and the ultimate?popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:34 am It should be acknowledged which reality you are speaking of, apparent reality or what is called ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a biological readout of the surrounding energies, ultimate reality is a place of no things or unmanifested energy. Pure absence makes no sense whatsoever.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:29 pmIf reality can be divided into these different realities than this division is the reality itself and all realities are connected by this act of distinction where none supercedes the other outside of relative observation and as such reality is purely distinction where apparent and ultimate are merely cycling distinction that are both apparent and ultimate and neither apparent nor ultimate.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 amApparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.
There is one ultimate reality in the form of energy, frequencies, and vibrations, which are the sources of the energy, frequencies, and vibrations we know as objects. We as biological organisms only sense and react to a limited spectrum of the totality of the realm of ultimate reality, unmanifested energy, frequencies, and vibrations. In the absence of consciousness, there are no objects, just energy, frequencies, and vibrations forever unknown as unmanifested things.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:29 pmIf reality can be divided into these different realities than this division is the reality itself and all realities are connected by this act of distinction where none supercedes the other outside of relative observation and as such reality is purely distinction where apparent and ultimate are merely cycling distinction that are both apparent and ultimate and neither apparent nor ultimate.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 amApparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.
There is one ultimate reality in the form of energy, frequencies, and vibrations, which are the sources of the energy, frequencies, and vibrations we know as objects. We as biological organisms only sense and react to a limited spectrum of the totality of the realm of ultimate reality, unmanifested energy, frequencies, and vibrations. In the absence of consciousness, there are no objects, just energy, frequencies, and vibrations forever unknown as unmanifested things.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:29 pmIf reality can be divided into these different realities than this division is the reality itself and all realities are connected by this act of distinction where none supercedes the other outside of relative observation and as such reality is purely distinction where apparent and ultimate are merely cycling distinction that are both apparent and ultimate and neither apparent nor ultimate.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 amApparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.
There is one ultimate reality in the form of energy, frequencies, and vibrations, which are the sources of the energy, frequencies, and vibrations we know as objects. We as biological organisms only sense and react to a limited spectrum of the totality of the realm of ultimate reality, unmanifested energy, frequencies, and vibrations. In the absence of consciousness, there are no objects, just energy, frequencies, and vibrations forever unknown as unmanifested things.
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Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:29 pmIf reality can be divided into these different realities than this division is the reality itself and all realities are connected by this act of distinction where none supercedes the other outside of relative observation and as such reality is purely distinction where apparent and ultimate are merely cycling distinction that are both apparent and ultimate and neither apparent nor ultimate.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 amApparent reality is your everyday reality, a biological readout of how you experience the energies around you. Ultimate reality is the world and cosmos as unmanifested energies, a place of no things.
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I would never have thought of pure gibberish. Must be the reality of an empty brain.
Predication is existence.Phil8659 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:34 amI would never have thought of pure gibberish. Must be the reality of an empty brain.
No one can predicate existence. All anyone can do is name the elements of a thing; its limits, i.e., noun and its relative difference, i.e., verb. Now, from the start, use this binary to form a geometric figure called a simple line segment.
Take a segment and label it at the start as "does not exist", or 0 and "does exist" as 1.
Divide this at the median, 0 to .5 is intelligible, .5 to 1 is perceptible. Plato demonstrated how to form binary chains in his dialogs, so that one does not end up with the raunchy string of nonsense that started the post. That process can go one as long as one wants to follow a binary chain to a conclusion.
If reality is purely a subjective biological experience than by default your statement that reality is a subjective biological experience is purely a subjective interpretation on your part by your own standards and as such is not universal truth.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 4:18 pm Our apparent/everyday reality is a subjective construct, a biological readout. It is as if the energies of the cosmos and earth play upon biology as their instrument, and the melody they play upon us is apparent reality. Experience is when the energies of the world alter our standing biological state, which we then call experience. The judgment of that experience we call meaning. We do not experience what is, we experience how what is alters our biology, making the process a biological readout. Each organism is the centre of its universe, experiencing its biological readout, and where there is a differing biology, there necessarily is a differing apparent reality/everyday reality. Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things; thus, it is the meaning of the energies around us that we call apparent reality.
There is a level of commonality of experiences within biologizes, like species, but organisms have differing apparent realities according to their given biological natures. Biological reality needs the physical world or the energies that alter/change the standing state of our biology. This is how we come to know the world as a biological readout of the changes made to us by the outside world. The meaning we acquire, thus, is the experience of change and the judgment of that change concerning the outside world.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:28 amIf reality is purely a subjective biological experience than by default your statement that reality is a subjective biological experience is purely a subjective interpretation on your part by your own standards and as such is not a universal truth.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 4:18 pm Our apparent/everyday reality is a subjective construct, a biological readout. It is as if the energies of the cosmos and earth play upon biology as their instrument, and the melody they play upon us is apparent reality. Experience is when the energies of the world alter our standing biological state, which we then call experience. The judgment of that experience we call meaning. We do not experience what is, we experience how what is alters our biology, making the process a biological readout. Each organism is the centre of its universe, experiencing its biological readout, and where there is a differing biology, there necessarily is a differing apparent reality/everyday reality. Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things; thus, it is the meaning of the energies around us that we call apparent reality.
You must be hoping for the NO bell prize for stupid remarks.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:27 amPredication is existence.Phil8659 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:34 amI would never have thought of pure gibberish. Must be the reality of an empty brain.
No one can predicate existence. All anyone can do is name the elements of a thing; its limits, i.e., noun and its relative difference, i.e., verb. Now, from the start, use this binary to form a geometric figure called a simple line segment.
Take a segment and label it at the start as "does not exist", or 0 and "does exist" as 1.
Divide this at the median, 0 to .5 is intelligible, .5 to 1 is perceptible. Plato demonstrated how to form binary chains in his dialogs, so that one does not end up with the raunchy string of nonsense that started the post. That process can go one as long as one wants to follow a binary chain to a conclusion.
That is your subjective state.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:20 amThere is a level of commonality of experiences within biologizes, like species, but organisms have differing apparent realities according to their given biological natures. Biological reality needs the physical world or the energies that alter/change the standing state of our biology. This is how we come to know the world as a biological readout of the changes made to us by the outside world. The meaning we acquire, thus, is the experience of change and the judgment of that change concerning the outside world.Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:28 amIf reality is purely a subjective biological experience than by default your statement that reality is a subjective biological experience is purely a subjective interpretation on your part by your own standards and as such is not a universal truth.popeye1945 wrote: ↑Fri May 16, 2025 4:18 pm Our apparent/everyday reality is a subjective construct, a biological readout. It is as if the energies of the cosmos and earth play upon biology as their instrument, and the melody they play upon us is apparent reality. Experience is when the energies of the world alter our standing biological state, which we then call experience. The judgment of that experience we call meaning. We do not experience what is, we experience how what is alters our biology, making the process a biological readout. Each organism is the centre of its universe, experiencing its biological readout, and where there is a differing biology, there necessarily is a differing apparent reality/everyday reality. Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things; thus, it is the meaning of the energies around us that we call apparent reality.