Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:40 am
If there are, supposedly, NO 'provided answer', then how could there be ANY answers, on the web, as you claim there are?
Reading comprehension is obviously not your forte.
I said I want
your answer, and your answer is nowhere on the web. The web contains only answers which contradict your assertions.
1. Let 'us' not forget that you have not comprehended and have misunderstood what I have written, AS WELL.
2. I apologize for not comprehending absolutely every thing you have written.
3. WHY do you believe, absolutely, that the web contains, only, answers which, supposedly, contradict my assertions?
4. How do you KNOW that 'my answer' is, supposedly, NOWHERE on the web?
5. What even is 'my answer', exactly, which you believe, absolutely, is absolutely NOWHERE on the web?
6. And, HOW does this relate, exactly, to you wanting me to inform you of what my answer is to two clarifying questions that you have asked me?
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
But I could work it out.
You have demonstrated otherwise. All the trolls make that empty assertion. "I could do it, but I won't"
Are you some kind of IMBECILE? All I would have to do is just type into a search bar the two questions you asked, and then if there is an actual answer already on the web, then I could just inform you of that answer/s. However, to me, those two questions of yours have absolutely ANY thing at all to do with what I have said, and asserted. So, there is absolutely NO use in me just 'looking up' what the answers are to those two questions of yours.
Now, if you think or believe that me answering those two questions of yours will somehow counter or refute my assertion, then I think you really are on the Wrong track, here. However, you may well have some reasonable reason for asking me those two questions, and so I wait to find out and see if you have.
Will you provide the answers to those two questions of yours, here?
If no, then WHY NOT?
And, by the way, what do those two questions have to do with what I have already said and written, here?
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
And, even if I cannot work out the how far away 'hubble' is, when a measurement is taken, and/or cannot work out how fast 'hubble' is moving away from said galaxy, at any time during its fleeting functional existence, then this does not necessarily mean that I actually do not know anything, compared to the humans that I label as BLIND, CLOSED, and STUPID, AT ALL.
I didn't say you actually do not know anything,
I NEVER said that you said that I actually do not know anything.
I just POINTED OUT how the two things that you 'tried to' make out correlated DO NOT.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
I just am demonstrating that you know less than those you label as STUPID.
What a Truly STUPID, CLOSED, and BLIND thing to say and claim, here.
So, just because I do NOT YET KNOW some thing, which I could have ALREADY just 'looked up' on the internet, then this means, to this one anyway, that I know less than some human beings do.
Talk about ABSURDITY in the extreme.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
Do you know the answers to your two questions above, here?
Yes I do. You said "I don't know".
LOL
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I NEVER EVER said that you do not know. I said, 'I do not know'.
Talk about a PRIME example of reading comprehension obviously not being one's forte.
I suggest you go back over what i have ACTUALLY said and written, here.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
That was your answer to the questions, and it was your answer to the questions was what I wanted. That answer told me what I needed to know. Are we done then?
I SAID, 'I do not know', to 'your two clarifying questions'. I 'thought' this was done after I wrote those four words down and you had read them.
Now, if the purpose of you asking me those two questions was that you could prove to the readers here that, 'I do not know', the answers to those two very little and Truly insignificant clarifying questions just so you could say, 'See you know less the people who know those answers', then you REALLY ARE far more immature than I first thought.
Let 'us' NOT forget that I or ANY one only has to 'look up', in some literature, to find out what the provided 'assumed to be' correct measurements are of your two questions above here.
Also, I am, still, wondering if you have YET realized that the answers to those two questions in absolutely NO way AT ALL could contradict my assertions anyway.
Furthermore, contrary to your BELIEF the web does NOT contain, only, answers, which contradict my assertions.
In fact, as it will be CLEARLY SEEN and PROVED True the web actually contains answers that PROVE, JUSTIFY, and VERIFY my assertions as being the True, Right, Accurate, and Correct Knowledge.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
1. I have NEVER denied 'expansion of space'.
Did so:
Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:06 pmBut the Universe, Itself, is not expanding.
"Expansion of the universe" refers to expansion of space over time. The terms mean the same thing in that context.
What it doesn't mean is that the entirety of space has a size, and that size is a different larger number at a later time. But it does mean that a given volume of space grows over time.
So what what 'that' means?
Again, you have FAILED to comprehend and understand what I have ACTUALLY said, written, and MEANT.
And, ONCE MORE, if and when you STOP assuming and believing things, then you WILL START being OPEN, CURIOS, and ASKING CLARIFYING questions. And, NOT asking clarifying questions to 'try to' SHOW that others know MORE than me, but instead to FIND OUT what I am ACTUALLY SAYING, and MEANING.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
Instead you asserted that expansion was no more than matter moving away from itself:
ONCE AGAIN, I NEVER made ANY mention of 'no man than ...'.
But, if I did, then I stand Corrected, and WAIT for you to SHOW and PROVE, exactly, WHERE I DID.
Also, and for the those here, who want to FIND OUT what 'matter moving away from itself' ACTUALLY MEANS and ACTUALLY INVOLVES for it to happen and occur, while also being CURIOS as to HOW, EXACTLY, I use the 'space' word, then by all means let 'us', please, have A DISCUSSION.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:06 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:15 pm
The expansion of what?
Matter away from itself, obviously.
What else could it possibly be?
Here you assert that expansion could be nothing other than matter away from itself, and apparently not the expansion of space/universe itself.
I NEVER EVER asserted ANY such thing. I REALLY DO SUGGEST that you just STOP ASSUMING things.
See, when 'I', unlike 'you' adult human beings, ask a CLARIFYING QUESTION I am NOT 'asserting' absolutely ANY thing AT ALL. As can be CLEARLY SEEN with the example question above here, I am JUST ASKING you, for CLARIFICATION, 'What else could it possibly be'? And, absolutely NOTHING ELSE is being meant, implied, NOR asserted.
ONCE MORE, i will suggest to you human beings, here, do NOT ASSUME NOR BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY ANY thing when and while reading 'MY WORDS', in this forum.
Also, if and when absolutely ANY one WANTS TO FIND OUT HOW, in 'my view' of things here 'space', itself, IS EXPANDING, then by all means let 'us' just have A DISCUSSION. So, that 'you' CAN and WILL FIND OUT what I actually MEAN when I use the 'space', and ANY and EVERY other, word, here.
This one known as "noax" here is continually PROVING HOW, exactly, PRE-ASSUMING and/or BELIEVING things IS, and HAS, led this one completely OFF-TRACK and completely ASTRAY, here.
But, this is NOT some thing that just "noax" is doing and has been doing throughout this forum.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
Also, I do NOT even have to have A model to justify this assertion. I can just JUSTIFY and PROVE 'that assertion' IRREFUTABLY, anyway.
Claiming to be able to do so is easy.' Actually doing so has not been done.
1. Claiming to do so, to me, is AS simple AND easy AS doing so.
2. Please do NOT forget that what has not been done to you does NOT mean that it has NOT been done to others.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
You seem to claim that knowledge of physics is a waste of time and energy,
'This' may well be what 'seems' to you, but it is CERTAINLY NOT what I have been saying NOR meaning absolutely ANYWHERE.
ONCE AGAIN, I could say and claim that 'reading comprehension' is obviously not of this one's forte. HOWEVER, if and when I do this, then it is 'I' who gets BLAMED for NOT writing correctly, succinctly, accurately, and/nor clearly.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
which it very much is for plenty of people with different interests.
I have NEVER thought, let implied, let alone said absolutely ANY thing like, 'knowledge of physics is a waste of time and energy'. So, what you just said here is completely unnecessary.
Noax wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:51 pm
But most of those people don't post in topics like this claiming to know better than those with such knowledge, highlighting the parts that cannot be backed by putting them in all caps. We have a word for those that do anyway.
1. 'I" am NOT 'most people'.
2. The one who said and claimed that the sun does not revolve around the earth was ALSO claimed to be NOT one of the 'most people' who claimed that they had 'such knowledge'. Obviously, at times throughout human history, 'most people' have had the 'same such knowledge'. And, throughout human history 'most people', with 'such knowledge', have had False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect knowledge, which they ALSO BELIEVED was the true, right, accurate, and/or correct knowledge. But, NEVER EVER do 'most people', NOR 'such knowledge', mean that they are Correct.
3. I can and WILL back up, support, justify, verify, and/or prove what I have said and claimed in capital letters and NOT in capital letters.
4. This one actually BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that the words I put in all capital letters CANNOT be 'backed'.
Really, I do NOT KNOW how MANY TIMES that these human beings, here, are going to KEEP PROVING, IRREFUTABLY, for me, that HAVING and HOLDING ONTO BELIEFS is, and was, the BIGGEST DOWNFALL for ALL human beings, humanity, and human kind.
LOOK, the Universe did NOT begin and is NOT expanding. And, this is AS OBVIOUS, to me, as the sun does NOT revolve around the earth was AS OBVIOUS, 'to one human being', BEFORE it BECAME OBVIOUS to more and more human beings.
AND, ONCE MORE, I WILL only SHOW and PROVE this to those who are Truly OPEN and Truly CURIOS. For the rest of 'you', 'you' WILL just HAVE TO WAIT.