The Truth

[Fairy]

If the capitalizing of letters is Truly unnecessary, for you, as you said and claimed above here, then why, exactly, did you do it here for?

I said capitalizing of letters is unnecessary - not needed.

Not that capitalizing of letters is absolutely forbidden.

But, that is, exactly, my point. If the capitalizing of letters is unnecessary, and thus not needed, for you, then what is the actual reason for why you do it, here?

I am just trying to find out and clarify what you do it?

I have absolutely no idea why I do it, I just do, sometimes I don't. And whatever I do or don't, makes no difference to me personally that's all.

I'm not implying capitalizing is not necessary for everyone else. I guess what I meant to say, is caps are just not necessary for me, but they are not forbidden for me, sometimes I use them and sometimes I don't. There is no actual reason for that, it's just what it is.

[Age]

Although it does appear as though 'defining' 'conceptualising' and 'speaking' looks like TRUTH.

Why would you say and try to claim this?

There is no try to claim. These words just come out like an arrow in the moment.

I agree that those words, of 'yours', it could be said and argued, 'just come out like an arrow in the moment's. So, there is and was no disputing of this nor any questioning of this.

What I just questioned, and asked, was, 'Why would you say and try to claim this?'

Also, what is 'truth', exactly, when written in all capital letters?

Same as the truth appearing in lower case letters.

Okay. So, there REALLY IS, and REALLY WAS, NO use AT ALL in you writing some words here in different ways.

And, this might explain a LOT MORE about why, what I have been writing, here, was not be Truly understood, back in those days when it was being written.

Which, AGAIN, helps me, tremendously, in learning how to better communicate with 'you' human beings.

Doesn't matter how truth appears, it's all the same truth to me.

Who and/or what is 'me', here, exactly?

By the way, is there absolutely o difference at all between what one or some human beings class as 'the truth' but which might end up being not 'the truth' at all?

For example, is 'the truth' that the earth is flat the exact 'same truth' as the earth is not flat?

[Fairy]

Although it does appear as though 'defining' 'conceptualising' and 'speaking' looks like TRUTH.

Why would you say and try to claim this?

There is no try to claim. These words just come out like an arrow in the moment.

I agree that those words, of 'yours', it could be said and argued, 'just come out like an arrow in the moment's. So, there is and was no disputing of this nor any questioning of this.

What I just questioned, and asked, was, 'Why would you say and try to claim this?'

I don't know why, also I didn't make any reference to trying to claim what I said. I just said what I said. There was no claim, or try.

[Age]

I said capitalizing of letters is unnecessary - not needed.

Not that capitalizing of letters is absolutely forbidden.

But, that is, exactly, my point. If the capitalizing of letters is unnecessary, and thus not needed, for you, then what is the actual reason for why you do it, here?

I am just trying to find out and clarify what you do it?

I have absolutely no idea why I do it, I just do, sometimes I don't.

Oh great, thank you for clarifying. I thought you were capitalizing some letters here for the exact same reason I was. So, now that I KNOW, for absolute certainty, that you capitalize letters for NO reason AT ALL I will start to read 'your words' differently.

Here 'we' have another prime example of why it is MUCH BETTER that I SEEK OUT and OBTAIN ACTUAL CLARITY and CLARIFICATION, FIRST.

And whatever I do or don't, makes no difference to me personally that's all.

I'm not implying capitalizing is not necessary for everyone else. I guess what I meant to say, is caps are just not necessary for me, but they are not forbidden for me, sometimes I use them and sometimes I don't. There is no actual reason for that, it's just what it is.

And, 'now' learning that capitalizing letters as NO actual reason, to you, then this helps in explaining, to me, why the actual meaning of so many of 'my words' and 'my sentences' have gotten so completely taken out of context, misinterpreted, misconstrued, misunderstood, mistaken, and even just MISSED.

[Fairy]

Doesn't matter how truth appears, it's all the same truth to me.

Who and/or what is 'me', here, exactly?

Me here. The me who is reading what the me is writing in the same instance.

By the way, is there absolutely o difference at all between what one or some human beings class as 'the truth' but which might end up being not 'the truth' at all?

For example, is 'the truth' that the earth is flat the exact 'same truth' as the earth is not flat?

I suppose some human truths can change, for example, what was once thought of as a truth, can change to not being true after all.

[Fairy]

But, that is, exactly, my point. If the capitalizing of letters is unnecessary, and thus not needed, for you, then what is the actual reason for why you do it, here?

I am just trying to find out and clarify what you do it?

I have absolutely no idea why I do it, I just do, sometimes I don't.

Oh great, thank you for clarifying. I thought you were capitalizing some letters here for the exact same reason I was. So, now that I KNOW, for absolute certainty, that you capitalize letters for NO reason AT ALL I will start to read 'your words' differently.

Here 'we' have another prime example of why it is MUCH BETTER that I SEEK OUT and OBTAIN ACTUAL CLARITY and CLARIFICATION, FIRST.

And whatever I do or don't, makes no difference to me personally that's all.

I'm not implying capitalizing is not necessary for everyone else. I guess what I meant to say, is caps are just not necessary for me, but they are not forbidden for me, sometimes I use them and sometimes I don't. There is no actual reason for that, it's just what it is.

And, 'now' learning that capitalizing letters as NO actual reason, to you, then this helps in explaining, to me, why the actual meaning of so many of 'my words' and 'my sentences' have gotten so completely taken out of context, misinterpreted, misconstrued, misunderstood, mistaken, and even just MISSED.

Thank you for understanding.

[Age]

There is no try to claim. These words just come out like an arrow in the moment.

I agree that those words, of 'yours', it could be said and argued, 'just come out like an arrow in the moment's. So, there is and was no disputing of this nor any questioning of this.

What I just questioned, and asked, was, 'Why would you say and try to claim this?'

I don't know why, also I didn't make any reference to trying to claim what I said. I just said what I said. There was no claim, or try.

Okay. But, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum' here, where views, ideas, and words presented here are usually done on the 'knowing' that there is an expectation of them being critiqued, questioned, and/or challenged over, and some sort of clarity .ight be sought out as well. This is because through 'philosophically discussing' things more or new/er knowledge could, and might, comes-to-light. So, if every one were just going to say things like, 'my words, views, or ideas, presented here 'just come out like arrows in the moment', then, really, nothing 'new' is going to be nor would have been dis nor un covered.

[Fairy]

I agree that those words, of 'yours', it could be said and argued, 'just come out like an arrow in the moment's. So, there is and was no disputing of this nor any questioning of this.

What I just questioned, and asked, was, 'Why would you say and try to claim this?'

I don't know why, also I didn't make any reference to trying to claim what I said. I just said what I said. There was no claim, or try.

Okay. But, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum' here, where views, ideas, and words presented here are usually done on the 'knowing' that there is an expectation of them being critiqued, questioned, and/or challenged over, and some sort of clarity .ight be sought out as well. This is because through 'philosophically discussing' things more or new/er knowledge could, and might, comes-to-light.

Ok I understand.

So, if every one were just going to say things like, 'my words, views, or ideas, presented here 'just come out like arrows in the moment', then, really, nothing 'new' is going to be nor would have been dis nor un covered.

But what if what comes out like an arrow from me here, is read by someone else to be new information that they haven't heard before, what if what has come out like an arrow from me is read as some information that is useful to another reader?

[Age]

I don't know why, also I didn't make any reference to trying to claim what I said. I just said what I said. There was no claim, or try.

Okay. But, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum' here, where views, ideas, and words presented here are usually done on the 'knowing' that there is an expectation of them being critiqued, questioned, and/or challenged over, and some sort of clarity .ight be sought out as well. This is because through 'philosophically discussing' things more or new/er knowledge could, and might, comes-to-light.

Ok I understand.

So, if every one were just going to say things like, 'my words, views, or ideas, presented here 'just come out like arrows in the moment', then, really, nothing 'new' is going to be nor would have been dis nor un covered.

But what if what comes out like an arrow from me here, is read by someone else to be new information that they haven't heard before, what if what has come out like an arrow from me is read as some information that is useful to another reader?

Then 'it' will just be new and/or useful information.

Which, to some people, happens and occurs every single day, while to some others just happens and occurs numerous times every day anyway.

[Fairy]

Then 'it' will just be new and/or useful information.

Which, to some people, happens and occurs every single day, while to some others just happens and occurs numerous times every day anyway.

Can information inform a Final Truth? .. Is there a Final Truth?

When information looks as though it is new, but then more information comes in that looks even newer than the previous new.

[Walker]

It's an epistemological statement. The only thing you can say is absolutely true for certain is the knowledge that you are. Everything else you know is an inference based on this or that, made now or then.

This is why the intellectual exercise of e-prime can somewhat paradoxically lead to insights previously unknown, because declarations of being are simply an intellectual crutch that obscure what's happening now, or Now if you prefer.

And not just because I say so, Pharoah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

[Fairy]

It's an epistemological statement. The only thing you can say is absolutely true for certain is the knowledge that you are. Everything else you know is an inference based on this or that, made now or then.

That's the hard problem of KNOWLEDGE

It can only point to the illusory nature of reality.

The knowledge that you are is a concept known. In this conception. And that which is KNOWN knows nothing.

[Age]

Then 'it' will just be new and/or useful information.

Which, to some people, happens and occurs every single day, while to some others just happens and occurs numerous times every day anyway.

Can information inform a Final Truth? .. Is there a Final Truth?

The answers would all depend on what you mean by 'Final Truth'.

When information looks as though it is new, but then more information comes in that looks even newer than the previous new.

I am not sure what you are meaning here. That is; if you are meaning any thing here.

[Age]

It's an epistemological statement.

What is, supposedly, an 'epistemological statement' there, exactly?

The only thing you can say is absolutely true for certain is the knowledge that you are.

But, according to your own claim and 'logic' this claim here is just another inference, which obviously by definition means that what you just said and claimed here could be wrong.

Everything else you know is an inference based on this or that, made now or then.

Again, you keep making inferences, here, which obviously could be completely False.

This is why the intellectual exercise of e-prime can somewhat paradoxically lead to insights previously unknown, because declarations of being are simply an intellectual crutch that obscure what's happening now,

Again, these are just more inferences that could be False, Wrong, Inaccurate, or Incorrect, correct?

or Now if you prefer.

And not just because I say so, Pharoah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

[Fairy]

Then 'it' will just be new and/or useful information.

Which, to some people, happens and occurs every single day, while to some others just happens and occurs numerous times every day anyway.

Can information inform a Final Truth? .. Is there a Final Truth?

The answers would all depend on what you mean by 'Final Truth'.

When information looks as though it is new, but then more information comes in that looks even newer than the previous new.

I am not sure what you are meaning here. That is; if you are meaning any thing here.

I mean will there be a final truth that a finite human can have access to.

Will there ever be a new piece of information that becomes the last piece of information where no more new information is available leaving the final truth to be all that’s left to be known ?