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Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:13 pm
by Walker
Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:54 pm
Mediation is evil, it implies two, another lie you've been sold.
Mediation usually involves compromise with the help of a third party referee for the purpose of peace.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:27 pm
by Walker
Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:54 pm
Living does not require thought.
That depends on the lifestyle. For example, the typical Stepford Wife of any culture lets the husband do the thinking, or perhaps allows the stipulations of the dole to chart a life-course, while on the other hand the independent woman needs to think in order to survive in this day and age, in the history of the world when this is written.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:19 pm
by LuckyR
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:59 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:06 am
[Gettier aside] Heard of Justified True Beliefs??
I have. Here's a justified true belief: Tomorrow you will either die or you won't.
Justified by the law of excluded middle this qualifies for knowledge.
A perfectly logical and reasonable belief, but true? There may not be a tomorrow, alas.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:22 pm
by LuckyR
Osric wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:32 pm
I accept that God might possibly exist, I just don't believe in the bible or that Jesus is the son of God. However, there are some good things in the bible that could improve how we live. My favorite quote from the bible is "Let him without sin cast the first stone." Another good quote is "Judge not lest thee be judged yourself. It is okay to believe in God and not believe in the bible or Jesus.
Oh, gods definitely exist. They just exist intersubjectively.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:37 pm
by Belinda
LuckyR wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:22 pm
Osric wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:32 pm
I accept that God might possibly exist, I just don't believe in the bible or that Jesus is the son of God. However, there are some good things in the bible that could improve how we live. My favorite quote from the bible is "Let him without sin cast the first stone." Another good quote is "Judge not lest thee be judged yourself. It is okay to believe in God and not believe in the bible or Jesus.
Oh, gods definitely exist. They just exist intersubjectively.
If anything exists gods do exist, intersubjectively . However there is no permanent and persistent being of any god(or anything else) as existence precedes essence. In everyday terms this means that gods are constantly and dynamically in the temporal process of coming into being.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:07 pm
by Skepdick
LuckyR wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:19 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:59 am
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:06 am
[Gettier aside] Heard of Justified True Beliefs??
I have. Here's a justified true belief: Tomorrow you will either die or you won't.
Justified by the law of excluded middle this qualifies for knowledge.
A perfectly logical and reasonable belief, but true? There may not be a tomorrow, alas.
For 13.8 billion years there's always been tomorrow. What do you think is going to happen to it?
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:33 am
by LuckyR
Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:07 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:19 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:59 am
I have. Here's a justified true belief: Tomorrow you will either die or you won't.
Justified by the law of excluded middle this qualifies for knowledge.
A perfectly logical and reasonable belief, but true? There may not be a tomorrow, alas.
For 13.8 billion years there's always been tomorrow. What do you think is going to happen to it?
Unimportant. Is it a 100% certainty that there will be a tomorrow? (in order to make the statement a truth).
By the way, my guess is folks will be assuming that there will be a tomorrow up to, and including the day before time stops.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:48 am
by Skepdick
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:33 am
Unimportant. Is it a 100% certainty that there will be a tomorrow? (in order to make the statement a truth).
By law of excluded middle it's a 100% certainty that either there will be tomorrow or there won't be.
Thus it's a justified true belief.
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:33 am
By the way, my guess is folks will be assuming that there will be a tomorrow up to, and including the day before time stops.
And my guess is that folks will never stop assuming that either there will be a tomorrow or there won't be.
And it will always be true.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:12 pm
by LuckyR
Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:48 am
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:33 am
Unimportant. Is it a 100% certainty that there will be a tomorrow? (in order to make the statement a truth).
By law of excluded middle it's a 100% certainty that either there will be tomorrow or there won't be.
Exactly, having there be a tomorrow is not a certainty (as you intimated), thus your prior example of a truth, isn't.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:43 pm
by Skepdick
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:12 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:48 am
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:33 am
Unimportant. Is it a 100% certainty that there will be a tomorrow? (in order to make the statement a truth).
By law of excluded middle it's a 100% certainty that either there will be tomorrow or there won't be.
Exactly, having there be a tomorrow is not a certainty (as you intimated), thus your prior example of a truth, isn't.
Would you like to consult the date of my post?
Posted on Mon Sep 23. Tomorrow - the 24th September came and went.
10 tomorrows have come and gone.
You aren't uncertain. You are just lying.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:37 pm
by LuckyR
Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:43 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:12 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:48 am
By law of excluded middle it's a 100% certainty that either there will be tomorrow or there won't be.
Exactly, having there be a tomorrow is not a certainty (as you intimated), thus your prior example of a truth, isn't.
Would you like to consult the date of my post?
Posted on Mon Sep 23. Tomorrow - the 24th September came and went.
10 tomorrows have come and gone.
You aren't uncertain. You are just lying.
Just so you know, "tomorrow" refers specifically to the future, not the past.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:31 pm
by Skepdick
LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:37 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:43 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:12 pm
Exactly, having there be a tomorrow is not a certainty (as you intimated), thus your prior example of a truth, isn't.
Would you like to consult the date of my post?
Posted on Mon Sep 23. Tomorrow - the 24th September came and went.
10 tomorrows have come and gone.
You aren't uncertain. You are just lying.
Just so you know, "tomorrow" refers specifically to the future, not the past.
24th September was the future.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:24 pm
by seeds
Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:07 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:19 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:59 am
I have. Here's a justified true belief: Tomorrow you will either die or you won't.
Justified by the law of excluded middle this qualifies for knowledge.
A perfectly logical and reasonable belief, but true? There may not be a tomorrow, alas.
For 13.8 billion years there's always been tomorrow. What do you think is going to happen to it?
Where exactly is
"tomorrow" in the context of the following images?:
What I mean is, can the universe itself say anything about there being a
"tomorrow"?
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Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:36 pm
by Skepdick
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:24 pm
Where exactly is
"tomorrow" in the context of the following images?:
That's a context error.
Re: God DOES exist
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:54 am
by seeds
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Sorry, double post.
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