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Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:36 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:33 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:15 pm
What must it look like?

I don't know. They are words that refer to whatever they refer to.

So will someone else's answer apply to you?

I don't know.

Gary Childress wrote:Heaven is not in my mind. Either there is a heaven or there is not. Is there a heaven or is there not?

Lacewing wrote:What must it look like?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know. They are words that refer to whatever they refer to.

Lacewing wrote:So will someone else's answer apply to you?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

Then how will you know based on what anyone else says?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:57 pm

Gary Childress wrote:Heaven is not in my mind. Either there is a heaven or there is not. Is there a heaven or is there not?

Lacewing wrote:What must it look like?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know. They are words that refer to whatever they refer to.

Lacewing wrote:So will someone else's answer apply to you?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

Then how will you know based on what anyone else says?

I don't know.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:42 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:15 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:00 pm

I don't think there "might be". I hope there is (albeit a good God or whatever).

I don't really know what you think about God; but I would say you think it far too much.

That could be. Ever since the woman I am in love with introduced me to Christianity I've been miserable.

She took your money and gave you God; of course you are miserable. That's a terrible deal.

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:13 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:42 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:15 pm

I don't really know what you think about God; but I would say you think it far too much.

That could be. Ever since the woman I am in love with introduced me to Christianity I've been miserable.

She took your money and gave you God; of course you are miserable. That's a terrible deal.

Thank you, Harbal! Only you can make art this way. Maybe I'm chasing after the wrong gender.

Gary Childress wrote:Heaven is not in my mind. Either there is a heaven or there is not. Is there a heaven or is there not?

Lacewing wrote:What must it look like?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know. They are words that refer to whatever they refer to.

Lacewing wrote:So will someone else's answer apply to you?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

Lacewing wrote:Then how will you know based on what anyone else says?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

So how do you know it is not the product of a human mind, uniquely envisioned as to 'make it real' in many varying ways to those who do... or not at all envisioned, making it unreal to those who don't?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:53 pm

Gary Childress wrote:Heaven is not in my mind. Either there is a heaven or there is not. Is there a heaven or is there not?

Lacewing wrote:What must it look like?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know. They are words that refer to whatever they refer to.

Lacewing wrote:So will someone else's answer apply to you?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

Lacewing wrote:Then how will you know based on what anyone else says?

Gary Childress wrote:I don't know.

So how do you know it is not the product of a human mind, uniquely envisioned as to 'make it real' in many varying ways to those who do... or not at all envisioned, making it unreal to those who don't?

I don't know. Any suggestions on how I might know that?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:16 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:13 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:42 pm

That could be. Ever since the woman I am in love with introduced me to Christianity I've been miserable.

She took your money and gave you God; of course you are miserable. That's a terrible deal.

Thank you, Harbal! Only you can make art this way. Maybe I'm chasing after the wrong gender.

I'm always happy to share my perspective, Gary.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:59 pmAny suggestions on how I might know that?

Seems that you want suggestions (and answers) for how you can know things within the boundaries/limitations you have set for knowing.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:35 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:59 pmAny suggestions on how I might know that?

Seems that you want suggestions (and answers) for how you can know things within the boundaries/limitations you have set for knowing.

What boundaries or limitations have I set for knowing?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:35 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:35 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:59 pmAny suggestions on how I might know that?

Seems that you want suggestions (and answers) for how you can know things within the boundaries/limitations you have set for knowing.

What boundaries or limitations have I set for knowing?

That everything can be answered with a definitive and simplistic 'yes' or 'no' without any considerations for broader perspective and variables.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm Life is a death sentence and a lonely one.

Life is not a death sentence. It is not lonely either.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm How can there possibly be a good God?

What if the God (the creator) is neutral (both good and evil)?

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:44 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm Life is a death sentence and a lonely one.

Life is not a death sentence. It is not lonely either.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm How can there possibly be a good God?

What if the God (the creator) is neutral (both good and evil)?

Life is a death sentence.
Life is a sexually transimtted condition which is always fatal.

What's the point of a neutral god?
What does it do?
What is it for?
How can it be god and neutral. If it creates then it cannot be neutral.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:44 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm Life is a death sentence and a lonely one.

Life is not a death sentence. It is not lonely either.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:06 pm How can there possibly be a good God?

What if the God (the creator) is neutral (both good and evil)?

Life is a death sentence.
Life is a sexually transimtted condition which is always fatal.

What if you are wrong and there is a life after death?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm What's the point of a neutral god?
What does it do?

God does both good and evil.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm What is it for?

Without God, there would be nothing.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm How can it be god and neutral. If it creates then it cannot be neutral.

By neutral I mean that God does both good and evil.

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:52 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:44 pm
Life is not a death sentence. It is not lonely either.


What if the God (the creator) is neutral (both good and evil)?

Life is a death sentence.
Life is a sexually transimtted condition which is always fatal.

What if you are wrong and there is a life after death?

So what?
WHo cares?
What difference would it make?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm What's the point of a neutral god?
What does it do?

God does both good and evil.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm What is it for?

Without God, there would be nothing.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:46 pm How can it be god and neutral. If it creates then it cannot be neutral.

By neutral I mean that God does both good and evil.

WHy?