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Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:50 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:15 pm I don't usually listen to something else, such as music, when I'm reading, as it would be distracting. I do, however, find it difficult to sit still, indoors, if I'm reading something long, such as a book, and will usually do something else at the same time, such as cooking, housework, or anything, really, that doesn't require much thought. And best of all, simply being outside, in a nice quiet spot, maybe walking, though certainly not if it's a busy area.

You might find this interesting...

https://interlude.hk/blindness-and-musical-talent/

"Scientists at the University of Montreal have reported that blind people are up to 10 times better at discriminating between pitches. However, this only appeared to be the case if blindness occurred before the age of two, and the results showed a clear correlation between musical talent with age of blindness. Late blind subjects—those who became blind after 5 years of age, were shown to be no different from the control subject"

...research shows that 57% of blind musicians have perfect pitch, compared to less than 20% of musicians who do see."

I have absolutely no reason to doubt Maia can out process me in terms of sound palettes. When I study I'm not preforming the same mental functions as Maia, my hand writing is celebrated and remarked on by most who know me for my miniscule print script. I'm not merely reading a text but committing it to memory through motor control routes, visual and mental verbal. I'm often doing cross referencing as well.... that text from the Agni Purana I'm mentioned earlier is a distant descendant from The building of Ninĝirsu's temple (Gudea, cylinders A and B).

This is a level of memory control most are incapable of. And I in general have a very shitty memory. It's Yoda with a cane, then Yoda with a Light Saber flipping around all over. Then once the pen is down back to shit memory.

Right now I'm listening to jazz. I can't listen to Charles Marino while studying usually even if a instrumental because it is to uplifting. It's a instrumental. I could read a narrative like Oliver Twist to it, but that requires much less cognitive processing. I'm rarely going to take notes to such literature. If I'm hiking I'll often listen to lyrics. If Maia was physically around me I could drink tea and talk and listen to her music.... and probably read Oliver Twist, but couldn't have her around if doing a deep dive into a text.... the social component of people physically present wanting me to interact is too much. This is why in Japan and China you'll often times find introverted poets renowned for calligraphy go hike up into a mountain and live in a grass hut for a while to write poetry. If I'm hiking, it's the same as a peripatetic walk.... I can listen to podcasts, lectures and audiobooks. I can communicate while hiking outwardly or in a internal monologue. I can further reduce it to a near depressing instrumental if I gotta do memory deep dive and high strain deductive reasoning. It acts like a think tank almost.

The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm
The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:13 pm

Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm
The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

How is that a song?

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:31 am

Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm

iambiguous wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:50 pm

You might find this interesting...

https://interlude.hk/blindness-and-musical-talent/

"Scientists at the University of Montreal have reported that blind people are up to 10 times better at discriminating between pitches. However, this only appeared to be the case if blindness occurred before the age of two, and the results showed a clear correlation between musical talent with age of blindness. Late blind subjects—those who became blind after 5 years of age, were shown to be no different from the control subject"

...research shows that 57% of blind musicians have perfect pitch, compared to less than 20% of musicians who do see."

I have absolutely no reason to doubt Maia can out process me in terms of sound palettes. When I study I'm not preforming the same mental functions as Maia, my hand writing is celebrated and remarked on by most who know me for my miniscule print script. I'm not merely reading a text but committing it to memory through motor control routes, visual and mental verbal. I'm often doing cross referencing as well.... that text from the Agni Purana I'm mentioned earlier is a distant descendant from The building of Ninĝirsu's temple (Gudea, cylinders A and B).

This is a level of memory control most are incapable of. And I in general have a very shitty memory. It's Yoda with a cane, then Yoda with a Light Saber flipping around all over. Then once the pen is down back to shit memory.

Right now I'm listening to jazz. I can't listen to Charles Marino while studying usually even if a instrumental because it is to uplifting. It's a instrumental. I could read a narrative like Oliver Twist to it, but that requires much less cognitive processing. I'm rarely going to take notes to such literature. If I'm hiking I'll often listen to lyrics. If Maia was physically around me I could drink tea and talk and listen to her music.... and probably read Oliver Twist, but couldn't have her around if doing a deep dive into a text.... the social component of people physically present wanting me to interact is too much. This is why in Japan and China you'll often times find introverted poets renowned for calligraphy go hike up into a mountain and live in a grass hut for a while to write poetry. If I'm hiking, it's the same as a peripatetic walk.... I can listen to podcasts, lectures and audiobooks. I can communicate while hiking outwardly or in a internal monologue. I can further reduce it to a near depressing instrumental if I gotta do memory deep dive and high strain deductive reasoning. It acts like a think tank almost.

The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

I must admit that copying out ancient texts by hand sounds like it would be pretty interesting.

Constantine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:18 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:13 pm

Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm
The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

How is that a song?

Plum Island plays in my head slightly slower. It's one of my favorites. I'm not a fan of the other variations he made of it before he died.

Constantine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:23 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:31 am

Constantine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:34 pm

I have absolutely no reason to doubt Maia can out process me in terms of sound palettes. When I study I'm not preforming the same mental functions as Maia, my hand writing is celebrated and remarked on by most who know me for my miniscule print script. I'm not merely reading a text but committing it to memory through motor control routes, visual and mental verbal. I'm often doing cross referencing as well.... that text from the Agni Purana I'm mentioned earlier is a distant descendant from The building of Ninĝirsu's temple (Gudea, cylinders A and B).

This is a level of memory control most are incapable of. And I in general have a very shitty memory. It's Yoda with a cane, then Yoda with a Light Saber flipping around all over. Then once the pen is down back to shit memory.

Right now I'm listening to jazz. I can't listen to Charles Marino while studying usually even if a instrumental because it is to uplifting. It's a instrumental. I could read a narrative like Oliver Twist to it, but that requires much less cognitive processing. I'm rarely going to take notes to such literature. If I'm hiking I'll often listen to lyrics. If Maia was physically around me I could drink tea and talk and listen to her music.... and probably read Oliver Twist, but couldn't have her around if doing a deep dive into a text.... the social component of people physically present wanting me to interact is too much. This is why in Japan and China you'll often times find introverted poets renowned for calligraphy go hike up into a mountain and live in a grass hut for a while to write poetry. If I'm hiking, it's the same as a peripatetic walk.... I can listen to podcasts, lectures and audiobooks. I can communicate while hiking outwardly or in a internal monologue. I can further reduce it to a near depressing instrumental if I gotta do memory deep dive and high strain deductive reasoning. It acts like a think tank almost.

The Charlie Mariano song I mentioned:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoSEdYPz ... Fubw%3D%3D

I must admit that copying out ancient texts by hand sounds like it would be pretty interesting.

It's exhausting. But I look forward to doing it. That's how the texts of antiquity came down to us, some guy like me sitting down in the morning sun of a great library to copy. I'm fairly certain I'd be a scribe in the ancient world selling copies and visiting libraries. The skillet absolutely and completely collapsed, so you don't have guys able to pull off that level of scholarship anymore. A modern degree doesn't train someone mentally this way. Maybe these new brain download implants Elon Musk is developing will allow for it, I dunno.